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Boston Globe: Cuba's lessons on caring for children (Barf Alert)
Boston Globe ^ | March 11, 2002 | Larry Fish, Michael Yogman, Lou Casagrande

Posted on 03/11/2002 1:54:07 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:07:31 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

IF THERE IS one society in North or South America where President Bush's goal to leave no child behind is a reality, it can be found in Cuba, 90 miles off the Florida coast in one of the few remaining communist states in the world. That is the conclusion of 24 Bostonians who just returned from a week in Cuba where we focused on how Cuba raises and nurtures its kids.


(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 03/11/2002 1:54:08 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The blowhard---thanks to his ego--Elian escapade...Bush is president!
2 posted on 03/11/2002 2:09:46 AM PST by f.Christian
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Children's Code--[Excerpt] At the heart of the issue is Cuba's steadfast portrayal of itself as a society in which ''normality" for its 11 million people, especially children, means support for Castro's ruling Communist Party. Article 3 of the legal Children's Code, calls on ''society and the state [to] work for the efficient protection of youth against all influences contrary to their communist formation." [End Excerpt]
3 posted on 03/11/2002 2:10:53 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: f.Christian
Back to the "Peaceable" Paradise: Media Soldiers for the Seizure of Elian -Media Research Center Special Report
4 posted on 03/11/2002 2:12:38 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Let's hope it can and that as more Americans visit Cuba's shores, we can learn something from the Cubans - about how to raise our kids here, how to instill in them self-respect and cultural pride, and how to give all of them a chance to be happy, creative, and productive adults.

IE. Slaves.

5 posted on 03/11/2002 2:14:59 AM PST by DB
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Excerpted from Hillary Clinton and the Racial Left [Excerpt] Ever since abandoning the utopian illusions of the progressive cause, I have been struck by how little the world outside the left seems to actually understand it. How little those who have not inhabited the progressive mind are able to grasp the ruthless cynicism behind its idealistic mask or the fervent malice that drives its hypocritical passion for "social justice."

No matter how great the crimes progressives commit, no matter how terrible the future they labor to create, no matter how devastating the catastrophes they leave behind, the world outside the faith seems ever ready to forgive them their "mistakes" and to grant them the grace of "good intentions." [End Excerpt]-David Horowitz

6 posted on 03/11/2002 2:15:29 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: DB
IE. Slaves.

Bump!

7 posted on 03/11/2002 2:16:02 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: aculeus
Useful Idiot alert.
8 posted on 03/11/2002 2:16:08 AM PST by dighton
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Gee, American children sure are deprived. After all, there are no children's museums, YMCAs, Boy Scouts, 4-H, Little League, church youth groups, Young Audiences, etc. here in America. We should be more like Cuba. Let's go stand in line for milk right now.
9 posted on 03/11/2002 2:16:26 AM PST by bleudevil
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Castro is a billionaire. He took land and property belonging to others. He keeps his people fed and gives free medical care. He also keeps them in an island pen under supervision. My dog gets free medical care and food. I keep him close to home and do not allow him to roam. The Cuban people are happy being kept by a master?
10 posted on 03/11/2002 2:17:39 AM PST by oldironsides
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To: f.Christian
If Cuba has left no chidren behind, it is because the whole country has stayed behind.
11 posted on 03/11/2002 2:17:55 AM PST by Boston Capitalist
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I read this, this insanity and I want to tear my hair out- like the utterly fraudulent and specious claims about the "fine, free medical care available to all in the Workers' Paradise...."

It is bilge like this that aids Castro in his stranglehold on Cuba. These people are enablers of the worst stripe- I wonder if they would care to live in Cuba, not as one of the elite, but as a common citizen?

12 posted on 03/11/2002 2:18:34 AM PST by backhoe
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Am I hallucinating or did I just read this article? I guess the U.S. should beg Castro to be our new leader, so that we too can live in paradise. This writer is either completely disingenous or Cuba is able to make far better Potemkin villages then I thought possible. Does the author remember a couple years ago when children who were being made to protest against the U.S. for Elian Gonzalez starting chanting, ``Elian send us a coat.''
13 posted on 03/11/2002 2:27:47 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: bleudevil
The price of milk (and sex) in Cuba
14 posted on 03/11/2002 2:28:29 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: backhoe
I read this, this insanity and I want to tear my hair out-

Am I hallucinating or did I just read this article?

I had to pick myself up off the floor.

15 posted on 03/11/2002 2:29:27 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Boston Capitalist
If Cuba has left no chidren behind, it is because the whole country has stayed behind.

Bump!

16 posted on 03/11/2002 2:30:07 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I can't help but think of Horowitz's friend Ron Radosh's trip to Cuba. Yes, the one were they tried to teach him the difference between socialist and capitalist lobotomies.

we can learn something from the Cubans - about how to raise our kids here, how to instill in them self-respect and cultural pride, and how to give all of them a chance to be happy, creative, and productive adults.

Yes, if we want those results, do the opposite of Cuba. Has this guy heard of Armando Valladeres, Noble Alexander, et al?

17 posted on 03/11/2002 2:31:29 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Just wondering: Am I the only U.S. citizen that hasn't been to Cuba this year, or does it just seem that way?
18 posted on 03/11/2002 2:32:33 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Let's hope it can and that as more Americans visit Cuba's shores, we can learn something from the Cubans - about how to raise our kids here, how to instill in them self-respect and cultural pride, and how to give all of them a chance to be happy, creative, and productive adults.

Uh... I'm doing that now without any "inspiration" from Cuba

19 posted on 03/11/2002 2:33:23 AM PST by TxBec
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To: backhoe
I wonder if they would care to live in Cuba, not as one of the elite, but as a common citizen?

Oh no, they don't want to be one of the masses they want to be like the Kennedys.

20 posted on 03/11/2002 2:33:49 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
happy, creative, and productive adults.(that make $10/month tops)
21 posted on 03/11/2002 2:37:29 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
or does it just seem that way?

With the full court press the LIBERAL media's given every tom, dick and harrieta that's gone down to kiss Casto's butt, I can see how you'd feel that way.
It reminds me of Big media's non stop push during Aparthied. Now look at those countries and just try to find Big media covering it. LIBERALS want us all to wear blinders.

22 posted on 03/11/2002 2:39:10 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: TxBec
Oh but the Left knows better. They want your child from one year on up. It's so much better to get them when they're young
so you don't cloud their impressionable minds and besides, it frees you up to get out and produce for the good of everyone
.....well, maybe just the good of the dictator and his enforcers.
23 posted on 03/11/2002 2:43:33 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"...but children up to age 7 get first dibs on milk and pregnant mothers get to cut to the front of long lines for ice cream. "

The three rotten jerks who wrote this pap do not stop to consider the meaning implicit in this one phrase. Why does anyone have to have dibs on that which is simply available in capitalist society. The government proscribes consumers from the simplest of provision by their unlawful rule. The rule is not only unlawful but cruel, and these idjuts can't see it. I know there must be upstanding Bostonians. They were key to our independence from King George. But now? I have little respect for a country who would force their professionals into a life of poverty and prostitution to get dibs on a glass of milk.

24 posted on 03/11/2002 3:01:51 AM PST by Movemout
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To: Movemout
It just boggles the mind.
25 posted on 03/11/2002 3:21:58 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"I have seen the future and it works" - Lincoln Steffens, Moscow, 1919

Pissant fellow travelers or imbecile dupes - you make the call!

26 posted on 03/11/2002 3:48:26 AM PST by RippleFire
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
It must be pointed out that being in a communist country, we were only allowed to visit those schools and facilities that the government had given us approval to visit through our tour guide. We have no way of knowing for sure whether all such programs in Cuba are as good as those we saw.

Umm, Doc, does the word "Potemkin village" ring a bell?

27 posted on 03/11/2002 3:56:22 AM PST by LadyDoc
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To: RippleFire
Bump!
28 posted on 03/11/2002 3:58:22 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: LadyDoc
Umm, Doc, does the word "Potemkin village" ring a bell?

Carole King Sings to Castro

Warm Goodbye From Castro to Oliver Stone in Cuba

American Women Meet With Castro ``It was certainly exciting to meet with him. He is a very charming and eloquent man,'' said Jeffords, who traveled here with the university's Center for Women and Democracy.

Q: Should travel restrictions to Cuba be lifted?

A: The problem with the lifting of travel restrictions is that the Cubans control it because they issue the visas. They can put quotas. They can decide to allow only the tourists going to Varadero and Cayo Coco and ensure they have very little contact with the Cuban people. And all that will do, initially, is fill the government coffers and build up the regime. It's ironic because what you need is for the government to respond to the current economic crisis by opening up, by letting Cubans own and operate their own businesses, by letting them invest, letting them stay at hotels. [In Cuba,] the economy is shrinking. It is too dependent on tourism and remittances. Their way of fixing the problem is to fill up the hotels. A far preferable way . . . would be to grow the economy by letting the people invest in their community by starting small businesses -- not just restaurants and taxis and services, but also . . . creating products. You have natural capitalists in Cuba, and the proof of that is in the cars they have and how they take care of them. If allowed to work independently, they would create wealth through their own labor . . .[End Excerpt]

29 posted on 03/11/2002 4:07:54 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I am onlee fifteen, buts I seez the Globe az a commie paper.

I lives in a sugarcane field and work fifteen ours a day.

De bugs and snakes are so bad. Send me a raft. Elian

30 posted on 03/11/2002 4:14:19 AM PST by johnny7
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To: johnny7
Hey, wait a minute. These people care about children. They wouldn't lie, would they?
31 posted on 03/11/2002 4:21:49 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: nickcarraway
Yes, if we want those results, do the opposite of Cuba. Has this guy heard of Armando Valladeres, Noble Alexander, et al?

Oh, they're just Castro-haters.

32 posted on 03/11/2002 4:46:24 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: dighton
Useful Idiot alert.

Boston Globists looking for approval from the 43rd Street mothership.

33 posted on 03/11/2002 4:59:35 AM PST by aculeus
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To: aculeus
This anti-Americanism is being fed to kids in the schools.

Eyes Wide Open--[Excerpt] At the conference exhibit hall, the L.A. kids mounted a photo exhibition showing the underbelly of America. There were bleak images of life on an Indian reservation, of the homeless in Los Angeles. It was an eye-opener to some South Africans, who thought everyone in America was rich. "They were absolutely shocked," said Lynn Warshafsky, executive director of Venice Arts Mecca In turn, the L.A. group was surprised at the degree of anti-American sentiment, something they had to process. "They had to ask themselves questions they'd never asked before" about how others see them, Warshafsky said. [End Excerpt]

34 posted on 03/11/2002 5:03:38 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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Further down in "Eyes Wide Open"----

For Eamon, the highlight was hearing Fidel Castro speak. "I had thought of him as seriously evil. I realized he's not evil, he's doing what he thinks is best. He has this sort of demeanor about him. Whether you like him or not, you respect him. It opened my eyes."

35 posted on 03/11/2002 5:12:09 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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Bump!
36 posted on 03/11/2002 5:53:56 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: *Castro Watch
Check the Bump List folders for articles related to and descriptions of the above topic(s) or for other topics of interest.
37 posted on 03/11/2002 7:30:07 AM PST by Free the USA
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I guess I might not be so fond of someone who imprisoned and tortured me for decades. I might not be as magnanimous as I think.
38 posted on 03/11/2002 8:26:44 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
For a more balanced presentation read the Cuba chapter in PJ O'Rourke's economic travelogue "Eat the Rich."
39 posted on 03/11/2002 8:34:55 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Cuba--the model soviet satelite...

the mothership is gone and the dnc has adopted the loser prison colony and its tactics--goals--leader--ambition/methods too!

40 posted on 03/11/2002 9:48:54 AM PST by f.Christian
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Child Prostitution

LOCAL STATISTICS

* Cuba's 1996 report to the Committee on the Elimination of Discrimination against Women stated that the problem particularly affected girls aged 14 and 15. In Havana, there are an estimated 6000 prostitutes, but the number of CSEC victims is small. It is reported that the number of child victims is smaller than other countries in the region. (ECPAT, CSEC Database, citing 1996 report to the Committee on the Elimination of Discrimination against Women, http://www.ecpat.net/eng/ecpat_inter/projects/monitoring/online_database/index.asp)

GENERAL NOTES AND OBSERVATIONS

* Child prostitution is a problem, with young girls engaging in prostitution to help support themselves and their families. Young girls have constituted the bulk of the prostitutes catering primarily to foreign tourists. (US Dept of State, Human Rights Report, 1999)

* In Cuba, the new generation of prostituted women vary in age between 15-25, although children as young as 13 are also found. (CATW Fact Book, citing Jesus Zzqiga, "Cuba: The Thailand of the Caribbean", Independent Journalists' Cooperative, 18 June 1998)

* Cuba has a well-documented child sex trade with the thriving sex tourism sector. (June Kane, Sold for Sex, 1998)

* It seems that many of the men who sexually exploit children are frequent visitors to Cuba, and it also appears that many of them fund their trips through smuggling. (ECPAT International, Julia O'Connell Davidson and Jacqueline Sanchez Taylor, Child Prostitution and Sex Tourism in Cuba, October 1995)

* Cuba, considered to be free of prostitution since the 1960s, is experiencing an increase in prostitution and sex tourism as a result of the economic crisis. (CATW Fact Book, citing Jesus Zzqiga "Cuba: The Thailand of the Caribbean", Independent Journalists' Cooperative, 18 June 1998)

* Sex workers have reported an increasing demand for adolescents and young girls. (ECPAT International)


41 posted on 03/11/2002 10:00:41 AM PST by BansheeBill
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To: Pearls Before Swine
PJ O'Rourke's economic travelogue "Eat the Rich."

Good stuff.

42 posted on 03/11/2002 10:50:22 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: nickcarraway; f. christian; BansheeBill
I guess this explains why everyone was so adamant about getting Elian back to Cuba and Papa Fidel.
They were so concerned about his welfare in the U.S. that they denied him due process,
broke into a private home and snatched him at the point of a gun, all to save him.
America is bad for children, Cuba is good for children. Am I getting this right?
43 posted on 03/11/2002 10:58:19 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
America is bad for children, Cuba is good for children. Am I getting this right?

Yep. Gotta get up early to fool you! (/sarcasm)

44 posted on 03/11/2002 12:11:22 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Well! I don't know how anyone could actually say that. It is truly alarming.
45 posted on 03/11/2002 12:13:08 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Thanks for posting the article. It is truly incredible that even in the middle of the article, where these oh-so sensitive tourists mention (to appear "fair") that they might have had a controlled tour, that they don't make the common sense connections. It is a dictatorship, they couldn't see everything--there is no freedom. They treat the shortages and rationing as a fact of nature (and partially a U. S. sin) without questioning why Cuba's economy is such a disaster. And the Fidel worship--of course he's convincing and a powerful speaker. But try to disagree with him sometime!

Communism has made a complete mess out of Cuba that will take a long time to sort out. PJ O'Rourke has it right; these guys don't know which end is up.

46 posted on 03/11/2002 12:32:46 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Well, they must be doing something right. All of those Cuban refugees have superb nautical and swimming skills and an intense desire to use them.
47 posted on 03/11/2002 12:38:03 PM PST by TADSLOS
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
THESE IS REAL CASTRO'S CUBA.

A FIRSTHAND ACCOUNT OF CHILD ABUSE, CASTRO STYLE.

Source: Wall Street Journal

Published: Friday, May 5, 2000

Author: Armando Valladares

I was in solitary confinement in Fidel Castro's tropical gulag - where I spent 22 years for refusing to pledge allegiance to the Communist regime-when I heard a child's voice whimpering, "Get me out of here! I want to see my mommy!" I thought my senses were failing me. I could not believe that they had imprisoned a child in those dungeons. Later on, I learned the story of Robertico.

He was 12 years old when they arrested him. A captain in the political police had left his gun in his open car. When he returned to the car he saw the child playing with it. He slapped Robertico and took him into custody. The child was sent to an adult prison in Havana, where he was condemned to spend the rest of his youth. He would not be released until he reached the age of 18.

Robertico was sent to a gallery with common criminals. Within a few days, those soulless prisoners raped him. He sent several days in the hospital for treatment of rents and hemorrhages as a result. By the time he was released, his file had been stamped "homosexual" and he was taken to the prison area reserved for this classification.

Robertico was so slender that his body fit through the bars of the cells. One night he slipped out to watch cartoons on the guard's television. When he was discovered, he was sent to the punishment cells. He was taken out of those cells three times a week for injections because he was suffering from a venereal disease. A guard told me he was so young he did not even have pubic hair.

When I think of Elian Gonzalez, Robertico always comes to mind. This is the Cuban society to which Elian may return: a society where all rights are violated in the interest of subordinating all individuals to the will of the supreme leader.

Sadly, some in America still believe that the Cuban revolution was a triumph of good. It is worth remembering that many also refused to believe the horrors of the Nazi extermination camps. Then, the world had to wait for eyewitness accounts from journalists and photographic evidence from their camera crews before finally accepting the horrible reality of what had happened.

Many other Americans seem to believe that even if savage things once happened under Fidel Castro, the situation has now changed. Yet the same dictatorship, which sanctioned the abuse of Robertico and has tortured thousands of political prisoners, is still wielding absolute power over the Cuban people. Fidel Castro has never recanted or apologized for the atrocities that have been reported by those who have escaped his grasp. And there is a stream of evidence that the brutality and repression continues. Last month the United Nations Human Rights Commission condemned Cuba, for the eighth time, for its systematic violation of human rights. Amnesty International and the U.S. State Department have done the same.

It is standard practice around the world to transfer the custody of children to the surviving parent when the other dies. That is what is normal. But Cuba is not a normal place. If Elian is returned to Cuba, he will be sent back to a place where most people dream every day of escape. It is an island prison where a cruel tyranny has now lasted almost half a century. A fifth of the country's population - around two million people - have fled, and more than half-a-million have been courageous enough to apply for visas to leave.

Outside of Cuba, Elian will grow up as a free person with a free conscience. But if he returns, he will be "reprogrammed," as Castro himself has made clear. The Cuban government has already shown the world the residence where psychiatrists and psychologists will instruct Elian on how to despise and hate anyone who is against communism - including his own mother, who gave her life to bring him to freedom. In a few years she'll be nothing but a traitor to the Revolution. If Elian returns to Cuba his father will have no authority whatsoever to make decisions related to his education. Cuban "law" gives that authority to the Communist government.

Children are indoctrinated in Cuba from the moment they start to read. They are taught that the Communist party is owed loyalty above everything else. And they are taught that they must denounce their parents if they criticize or do anything against the Revolution or its leaders. For Elian, absolute control by the Communist party will begin in elementary school with the so-called "Cumulative School File." This is a little like a report card, but it I not limited to academic achievements. It measures "revolutionary integration," not only of the student but also of his family. This file documents whether or not the child and family participate in mass demonstrations, or whether they belong to a church or religious group. The file accompanies the child for life, and is continually updated. His university options will depend on what that file says. If he does not profess a truly Marxist life, he will be denied many career possibilities.

From his elementary school days on, he will hear that God does not exist, and that religion is "the opium of the masses" If any student speaks about God, His parents will be called to the school, warned that they are "confusing" the child and threatened. The Code for Children, Youth and Family provides for any parent who teaches child ideas contrary to communism. The code is very clear: No Cuban parent has the right to "deform" the ideology of his children, and the state is the true "Father." Article 8 of that same code reads, "Society and the state work for the efficient protection of youth against all influences contrary to their Communist formation." It is mandatory for all Cuban children over the age of 12 to do time in a Communist work camp in the countryside. Away from all parental supervision for nine months at a time, children there suffer from venereal disease, as well as teenage pregnancy, which inevitably end in forced abortion.

When the reprogramming plan for Elian is complete, we will see him repeating the slogans of the Revolution. He will have lost his liberty, his ability to dream, his youthful innocence, and perhaps even hope, and should he ever do anything that angers the regime, we must hope he will not end like Robertico, cornered in a cell, calling for his mother. This time, she will not be able to save him.

48 posted on 03/11/2002 1:10:45 PM PST by Cardenas
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To: TADSLOS
And all those soccer players and baseball players and doctors, and so on and so forth, who when they get a chance to get the hell out of Cuba, they seek asylum.
49 posted on 03/11/2002 1:17:37 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: backhoe
I read this, this insanity and I want to tear my hair out- like the utterly fraudulent and specious claims about the "fine, free medical care available to all in the Workers' Paradise...."

These people are liars of the worst kind. Maybe if they are good little communists, they will get the ultimate treat, which is la jaba, or "the bag", which is an extra monthly ration of rice, soap, and toilet paper.

50 posted on 03/11/2002 1:24:43 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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