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How I almost brought down the president...(David Brock alert)
The Guardian (U.K.) ^ | 03/12/2002 | David Brock

Posted on 03/11/2002 6:41:06 PM PST by Pokey78

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To: Pokey78
Tell me, what is wrong with setting perjury trap ?
21 posted on 03/11/2002 7:29:34 PM PST by alex
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To: Pokey78
I think this article is marvelous. Brock's shrill rantings only make him seem more absurd and untrustworthy. It does make me feel silly for ever having taken him seriously as a journalist. But far from rehabilitating him, the article is such an obviously over-the-top screed that any sensible reader will wonder why he should believe the guy this time.

So keep ranting, David. With each article, he just digs the hole deeper.

22 posted on 03/11/2002 7:40:58 PM PST by ArcLight
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To: Pokey78
...his alleged affair with Gennifer Flowers,

alleged? If this loser is still trying to classify the affair as "alleged", it should make any sane individual question the rest of his drivel.

23 posted on 03/11/2002 7:43:48 PM PST by mcenedo
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To: Pokey78
I love the litle hint that Paula Jones may not have been the Paula in his original Troopergate story! This is very clever and may have legs- he may have saved Clinton's legacy!
24 posted on 03/11/2002 7:44:16 PM PST by DBrow
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To: Pokey78
who hounded Bill Clinton with allegations of sexual impropriety, abuse of power,

Allegations ?????
25 posted on 03/11/2002 8:00:02 PM PST by uncbob
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To: Pokey78
Is this the same david brook from Berkley? The flamer David Brock, Berkley in the 60's? A pretender for what ever the ocassion?
26 posted on 03/11/2002 8:03:24 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Pokey78
Brock is now useless to anybody and has nowhere to go as a writer. He has shot his wad. The left will have no more use for him and he has no talent or connections. His future is NOWHERE.

won't be surprised if he doesn't end up in the gutter someplace
27 posted on 03/11/2002 8:08:34 PM PST by uncbob
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even drug-running. L.D. Brown told us --- "That's Lasater's deal." Clinton knew drugs were coming into Mena and he benefitted. Lasater, later a convicted drug dealer, was a big time campaign contributor.

comparing Senate majority leader Tom Daschle to Saddam Hussein -- Who did that?

exploiting the war in Afghanistan for domestic political gain -- How?

trying to spin Enron as a scandal for the Democrats -- What were the RATS doing? Who has the Enron tip line going? (Waxman)

track down a rumour in Arkansas that Democratic presidential candidate Bill Clinton had fathered an illegitimate child by an African-American prostitute. Smith hoped to derail Clinton's election with the supposed bombshell. An eager recruit into the scheme, I grabbed the money, made some calls, but soon concluded the story was fake. -- Why years later were they trying to use DNA to verify? Why did troopers deliver Christmas presents to Danny from Bill?

tales of Clinton's womanising. -- Tales, my butt. They have absolutely been corroborated by many, many people. Troopers and trooper cars used on regular and overtime pay.

troopers' portrait of Clinton as a sex-crazed sociopath, and of Hillary Clinton as a foul-mouthed, power-mad shrew --- Well-documented.

Clinton's draft record -- Yes, David, he really was drafted and really did lie to Col. Holmes, and really did lead demonstrations in England where our flag was burned.

his alleged affair with Gennifer Flowers -- Alleged? He admitted one tryst under oath, although it actually did go on 12 years. He gave her a state job and was sued by Charlotte Perry, a woman who deserved the job promotion on merit.

The Clintons now were indelibly branded as moral monsters -- Who has a problem with that characterization?

The brutal invasion of the private life of the first family -- Rape is not private. Giving government jobs for sex is not private. Assaults in the Oval Office is not private. Threatening the children of a witness is not private. False affidavits is not private. Perjury is not private. Top secret clearance for a "stalker" is not private. Using FBI files against those who could testify is not private.

The trooper story turned out to be seriously flawed -- BS

The conservatives were trying to manoeuvre Jones into suing Clinton -- Ummmm, Sinkmaster had a chance to apologize to her. He refused. He could have ended it right there. The problem was, Clinton could not tell the truth. All he had to do was admit what he did to Paula. The lowlife scum who support him wouldn't have given a damn. He could admit Broaddrick's rape and they won't care.

Richard Mellon Scaife -- Scaife has given money to many causes. Thank goodness he gave money to this effort because we had no attorney general. We had the appearance of an attorney general.

Scaife later explained that he had funded it because he did not believe that the mainstream press was properly investigating the "scandals of the Clinton White House" -- Everyone but those enjoying the kneepads knew that. Duh.

With his money, the magazine promoted the unsupported claims of convicted con man David Hale, independent counsel Kenneth Starr's main witness against Clinton in Whitewater. It also hired private investigators and informants, to try - in vain - to link the Clintons to drug-running and murder. Spurious Arkansas Project material was pumped into the Spectator and then flowed through the right's extensive network of propaganda mills, from talk radio, to internet sites, and some right-leaning mainstream newspapers including the Sunday Telegraph. -- Actually, Hale was corroborated by Jim McDougal and, to a certain extent, L.D. Brown who witnessed a meeting of Sinkmaster and Hale. This general reference is to the conspiracy stream of commerce (or some such title) that was written about in a New York magazine. The author of that piece later admitted he was wrong. How's this for a conspiracy -- Jane Sherbourne. Was it 60 or so lawyers on the government payroll, each having a job to attack those whose information posed a danger?

I once met the ruddy-faced Scaife, a recovered alcoholic -- Why did he have to put recovered alcoholic in this? I once met David Brock, an unrecovered lover of men's rear ends. How is that, David?

R Emmett Tyrrell Jr, a screeching conservative satirist -- Screeching? David sounds like he is in a cat fight here. Tyrrell is one of the most brilliant writers around.

Though he vigorously denounced the Clintons as morally irresponsible, Tyrrell declared after his own bitter divorce: "Lose a family, gain a nightclub."-- Amazing. A divorced Tyrrell is as morally repugnant as a serial sexual assaulter.

At a Spectator dinner that fall at a French restaurant near the Capitol, a couple of dozen key conservative-movement operatives and publicists met with Barr to drum up support in the ranks for the impeachment drive.-- It should have happened earlier.

The assault was undertaken partly to block an investigation by the house ethics committee of Gingrich's own ethical improprieties, which found that Gingrich violated tax laws in using tax-exempt foundations for political activities and misled Congress in sworn testimony. -- Did the GOP block it? No. What he did, David, actually did not violate tax laws. Gingrich felt the heat from his own party and left.

(When the Monica Lewinsky scandal broke, Gingrich said he would use the word "Monica" in every speech. Only conservative insiders knew Gingrich was having an affair with a young congressional aide the entire time.) -- He shouldn't have had that affair. There is not an excuse for it. But here we go again. The RATS always compare a parking ticket to hit-and-run vehicular manslaughter. After all, they both violate the vehicle code. Gingrich didn't commit perjury, solicit false affidavits, threaten witnesses, etc.

As the conservatives schemed behind the scenes, planning what would amount to a political coup d'etat -- Gee, I'm pretty sure rule regarding Impeachment are contained within the Constitution. A coup d'etat would have brought in a new government. In this case, Algore would have become president, not the opposition.

the Paula Jones sexual harassment case wound its way through the courts. Jones's lawyers of record were assisted by a cadre of young anti-Clinton lawyers -- So. And those who tried to destroy her were all pro-RAT lawyers.

One elf was George Conway, a $1m-a-year lawyer for tobacco interests, who was obsessed with every real or imagined detail of Clinton's sex life, and the size and shape of his genitalia. -- Why is being a lawyer for tobacco interests relevant? Gennifer Flowers commented publicly on the size. Bob Bennett commented on national television about "size, shape, and direction."

The third was Ann Coulter, the blonde, tart-tongued TV pundit who moonlighted as a lawyer at the Scaife-funded Centre for Individual Rights. Coulter referred to Clinton as a "horny hick", and called Hillary Clinton "a prostitute". -- Brock is just jealous because the guys who like Ann don't find him attractive.

failed supreme court nominee Robert Bork -- A brilliant legal mind and Brock had to refer to him as "failed supreme court nominee." Quite catty again, David.

and the current US solicitor general, Theodore Olson. Olson, an establishment figure who led a kind of double life as a consigliere to the hard right, -- Wow. Now a Mafioso reference. And a double life also. Gee, Ted is just horrible.

Bork and Olson helped the Jones lawyers convince the supreme court that an unprecedented civil suit against a sitting president could go forward - so long as he was a Democrat. --- No, David, not because he was a DemocRAT. Because he was a criminal degenerate who exposed himself to a powerless employee in a government workplace, demanded a sex act, and warned her that he knew her boss and she should keep it just between themselves.

Though the right usually opposes broad interpretations of the sexual harassment laws, Conway personally wrote a brief in the case arguing, successfully, for the introduction of information about Clinton's private consensual behaviour. In other words, the Jones team sought not to convict Clinton of sexually harassing Jones, but to set a perjury trap by catching him lying about consensual sex. -- Well, David, a perjury trap doesn't work unless one is prepared to commit perjury. Right? Private consensual behavior? In a government workplace? During business hours? With an underling? Giving government jobs in exchange for sex (including a State Court of Appeals Judgeship). Sex with someone at the Motel Six late at night without assistance of government employees is truly private consensual behavior. And rape is not consensual sex. Sinkmaster perjured himself about never sexually harassing a woman. David, tell what you think of the perjury in the criminal trial of Herbie Branscum and Robert Hill? Was that a perjury trap?

Lucianne Goldberg, who had urged Linda Tripp to secretly record conversations with her friend Lewinsky in which Lewinsky talked of her relationship with Clinton. -- I guess, David, you would not record conversations in which people were conspiring to commit perjury and setting you up to take the fall. You would just take it.

After spending tens of millions of dollars probing Whitewater, Starr had come up empty-handed. Now he saw the chance to vindicate his flagging operation by impeaching Clinton for a sex lie. In a reprise of Troopergate's leering obsession with sexual details, Starr reported graphically on the Clinton-Lewinksy relationship. Clinton was impeached by House Republicans on a party-line vote but acquitted in a Senate trial. -- Whitewater was labeled as the name of the scandal. The criminal dealings were much, much more. Give the Clintons credit. As lawyers, they knew how to destroy evidence and threaten and blackmail people into silence. Too bad that Ron Brown's plane fell from the sky and Jim McDougal had that unfortunate problem in jail. Impeachment was not quite a party-line vote in the House. It is clear to everyone that no matter what, the RATS would not look at evidence. David, name me one RAT senator who looked at the evidence in the Ford Building. That was their Constitutional obligation and they refused to do it.

The sexual witchhunt -- No, there were real crimes.

doing my own small part to help Clinton resist the forces that had once toasted and underwritten my work. -- Brock is pleased to join forces with Larry Flynt. Doesn't that just epitomize the RATS?

People like David Brock are why we can never lay off Clinton. The truth must be known. After 9-11, perhaps there is a chance. People are starting to believe what we have been saying all along. I chronicled on another post how a teacher I know told me yesterday that she blames Clinton for 9-11. She teaches high school history/government and was a big supporter of Sinkmaster. She now loves what Dubya has done, calls him a great leader, and wonders where we would be if her candidate had won.

28 posted on 03/12/2002 8:07:33 AM PST by doug from upland
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impeaching Clinton for a sex lie

Sex lie. Since when did the word "lie" take on adjectives (ther than "white lie")? I'll tell you when: Ever since this little phrase was invented by Alan Dershowitz.

I've always thought this was a childish invention but it sure took on a life of its own, and probably saved the low-life's Presidency.

29 posted on 03/12/2002 8:58:46 AM PST by CaptRon
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To: doug from upland
Now that is the way to disect and refute an article ! ! ! !
30 posted on 03/12/2002 9:06:37 AM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: Pokey78
It was a moment of truth. The sexual witchhunt that I had helped launch was about attaining power for an ideology I no longer supported.

Here's the real reason he is bringing this all to light. He doesn't support the causes of conservatives anymore, so he should clear his conscience now.

Does this mean it's okay to use these tactics as a Leftwinger? That's what the other side has been doing for years, yet he fails to mention that.

31 posted on 03/12/2002 9:26:09 AM PST by webstersII
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To: Pokey78
Harry Potter is more believable than this.
32 posted on 03/12/2002 9:30:59 AM PST by AppyPappy
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BROCK...........where's the lie detector test? Brock is SCUM......now go shine Hillary's shoes, or better yet, go hand wash the crusty one standing in the corner.
33 posted on 03/14/2002 3:09:30 AM PST by ChasingFletch
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To: Pokey78
Brock's title should be "How I went down on the president."
34 posted on 03/14/2002 3:14:33 AM PST by Young Rhino
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David Crock...Clinton ho-pimp---go investigate the make up hillary intern affair---Ken Starr/Linda Tripp made her do it!
35 posted on 03/18/2002 6:52:31 PM PST by f.Christian
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bttt
36 posted on 03/19/2002 10:52:44 AM PST by f.Christian
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