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FREEOPLES Thread 291
03/12/02 | Mo1

Posted on 03/12/2002 2:59:11 PM PST by Mo1

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1 posted on 03/12/2002 2:59:11 PM PST by Mo1
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To: Mo1
Good job Mo!
2 posted on 03/12/2002 3:01:29 PM PST by .38sw
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To: .38sw
Yeeee Haw! You're first. I'm spared the burden.
3 posted on 03/12/2002 3:02:43 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA
It is such a heavy load to bear. I may be be able to bear up under it all!
4 posted on 03/12/2002 3:03:24 PM PST by .38sw
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To: Mo1
It appears the amnesty vote for rewarding illegal aliens in an attempt to buy the Hispanic vote passed...275 to 137....yeah, there were some 23 that wouldn't/couldn't vote.
5 posted on 03/12/2002 3:04:51 PM PST by Rowdee
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To: Mo1

6 posted on 03/12/2002 3:06:20 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: Yall
Well it's dinner time .. crossing fingers that Jessie doesn't puke on the other couch ..

BBL

7 posted on 03/12/2002 3:07:03 PM PST by Mo1
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To: Mo1
*sigh* Missed it. Darn boss came in...
8 posted on 03/12/2002 3:07:18 PM PST by null and void
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To: hole_n_one
SMOOCH
9 posted on 03/12/2002 3:07:59 PM PST by Mo1
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To: Rowdee
I'm starting to feel some real uneasiness about President Bush. I have always supported him but this I DON'T LIKE. AND Campaign Finance Reform, if he does not veto that I really don't know where that will leave me. I remember VERY CLEARLY listening to him over and over during his campaign for President, come against CFR!! I will be extremely disillusioned if he doesn't veto that. That alone is so very important to your First Amendement.
10 posted on 03/12/2002 3:09:31 PM PST by Canadian Outrage
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To: Canadian Outrage
Well, I didn't vote for President Bush--I found too many discrepancies I couldn't reconcile with my beliefs, so I'm not disappointed like it appears a lot of FReepers are. I tend to really pay attention to what they say and write, rather than listen for what I 'want' to hear.

I haven't been a Republican since his Daddy gave me that 'read my lips' routine...that was the final straw with me....and that wasn't easy coming from someone who was raised in a Democrat household, but never voted for Democrats at the federal level, nor state level, or who ran for office as a Republican at the state level (house seat) just a few years before GHWB pulled that stunt.

Reading that amnesty thread provides a lot of chuckles, IMO, because it seems like more and more people are waking up to what is going on. As I see it, if there are that many willing to publicly show their distress, how many lurkers are there also feeling that way.

Its best not to discuss real politics with moi.....I seem to rankle too many feathers. :)

11 posted on 03/12/2002 3:19:56 PM PST by Rowdee
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To: Rowdee
You ran for office? Kewl!
12 posted on 03/12/2002 3:23:33 PM PST by null and void
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To: Canadian Outrage
Hi, again, on a nice fresh tread - thanks Mo!

I agree with you re: Bush's crawfishing on issues. (Do you guys have crawfish? It means backing up, and changing your position.)

To me, the best solution would be to neuter both Yeats and let them live with what they have done to themselves and their children.

I just don't see the point in killing her - the deterrent argument is so bogus - and a living hell type life would be so much more punishing than a quick needle.

Some crimes, like WindshieldWoman, call for the needle, the Yeats case, to me, does not. Jim

13 posted on 03/12/2002 3:28:08 PM PST by lodwick
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To: Rowdee
I look at it this way, I can handle a mistake but deception, I cannot handle. In the case of GHWB I don't even feel that that was outright deception, I feel it was going overboard with campaign rhetoric. I believe he wished he could take the words back as soon as he said them. No politician really likes to box themselves completely in. But W. was very firm on how CFR would hurt the Republican party and he repeated that over and over and even in the debates.!! I will have a great deal of trouble with that one. Lynn
14 posted on 03/12/2002 3:29:33 PM PST by Canadian Outrage
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To: darlin'
National Geographic tracks down Afghan girl in famous photo


Life with the Taliban can be hard on a Girl's looks!!

Real Hard!!! (See the before and after pics near the bottom of the thread)

15 posted on 03/12/2002 3:31:30 PM PST by gratefulwharffratt
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To: lodwick
Mrs. yates is already in such anguish I believe she will welcome the needle!! It will be no punishment at all. I don't want anyone to get me wrong. I am FOR the death penalty. But there are exceptions and I believe this is one of them. They have accomplished nothing by killing her. Now if they injected him - that would be much more fruitful!!
16 posted on 03/12/2002 3:32:48 PM PST by Canadian Outrage
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To: Canadian Outrage
But W. was very firm on how CFR would hurt the Republican party and he repeated that over and over and even in the debates.!!


Why don't we wait till the bill reaches his desk and he goes one way or the other before we make him walk the plank??

He has been letting on that he would probably sign it, but we have seen him let the Demonrats scream bloody murder until they work themselves into a rabid foam-at-the-mouth frenzy in the past, right before he zaps them, and it wouldn't surprise me if he waits until the last minute to play his hand again this time.

17 posted on 03/12/2002 3:38:10 PM PST by gratefulwharffratt
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To: lodwick
Thinking about what she did is not JUSTICE. Justice isn't pretty, but it must be carried out - it's our duty. Where there is no justice, no child, no vulnerable human is safe. Justice is protection. It is civilization. Justice dictates that Yates must die for her horrendous crime against humanity.

Andrea Yates CHOSE to live with thoughts of killing her children. It's what she did for months... thinking about it, planning it - then finally executing the crimes. How is it punishment, how is it justice, to say, "Let her live to think about the horrible thing she did?" She's a MURDERER! Thinking about murder is not a hardship for her.

18 posted on 03/12/2002 3:38:30 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: gratefulwharffratt
Considering all she's been through, she looks pretty good, considering all she's been through...
19 posted on 03/12/2002 3:39:26 PM PST by null and void
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To: Canadian Outrage
By executing Andrea Yates - JUSTICE will accomplished. That is what is needed - that's all. As long as she breathes, justice is not served in the murder case. Everyone may as well have just stayed home and not bothered showing up in court if they didn't have the stomach to do what needs to be done.
20 posted on 03/12/2002 3:42:19 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: Canadian Outrage
Haven't paid attention to this since she killed her children.

I think anyone who would do that needs to be done away with. She did not have a gun to her head and was not forced to do that.

21 posted on 03/12/2002 3:42:45 PM PST by Windshark
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To: prentice
(answering a question on the last thread):

My point is that forced universal servitude is incompatable with a free society.

22 posted on 03/12/2002 3:44:10 PM PST by null and void
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To: Mo1
Hi.

John has developed some new forum software, and Jim has configured it to allow us to divide things up into a few forums.

The idea is to keep the news/activism forum to be for published articles, threads about activism activities, and well-researched vanities. Other types of things, such as captions this photo threads and the like, should be posted to the "general" forum. The idea is to keep the news/activism forum a bit more serious, and have the fun stuff over in the general forum.

In the future, please post threads like this one over there. Thanks.

23 posted on 03/12/2002 3:44:28 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: gratefulwharffratt
That's exactly what I thought she would look like by now. Strong features; sullen, distrustful expression. She has a lot of hate - but not for the Taliban.
24 posted on 03/12/2002 3:44:53 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA
but not for the Taliban

You know this how?

25 posted on 03/12/2002 3:45:55 PM PST by null and void
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To: null and void
BBL....

What's CP"s point?

26 posted on 03/12/2002 3:45:56 PM PST by Windshark
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To: null and void
Oh yes I did....quite an experience. After losing, the GOP asked me if I wanted to work the legislative session (Jan thru April)....I did. Another experience all unto itself.

I was the Senate Journals Clerk....got to sit on the rostrum each day right next to the podium the Secretary of the Senate or reader used. I was privy to meet all the special guests who addressed the Senate.

Running for office was probably one of the highlights of my life--an education one never forgets. :)

27 posted on 03/12/2002 3:46:11 PM PST by Rowdee
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To: Prentice
Best to have him answer that.
28 posted on 03/12/2002 3:46:57 PM PST by null and void
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To: null and void
I read excerpts of the article - she doesn't like the Americans bombing Afghanistan. She's Pashtun, which generally supports the Taliban.
29 posted on 03/12/2002 3:51:41 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA
Oh. Guys don't really buy the magazine to read the articles....
30 posted on 03/12/2002 3:53:22 PM PST by null and void
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To: Canadian Outrage
..."I look at it this way, I can handle a mistake but deception, I cannot handle. In the case of GHWB I don't even feel that that was outright deception, I feel it was going overboard with campaign rhetoric. I believe he wished he could take the words back as soon as he said them. No politician really likes to box themselves completely in"....

Whoa there, Lynn.....politicans will lie to their own mother if it means winning! Dear, you really do give politicians way too much credit.....it isn't as though GHWB wasn't a seasoned veteran--for crying out loud for a New Englander to not know how the Democraps are! LOL.

I daresay if you go back and actually read very carefully what the President said/wrote/was ascribed to him, you may actually come away with a different view of what he actually said about CFR. I haven't bothered because I figured we'd get screwed again regardless of what the Republican said....of course, the screwing we'd have had under a Democrap could have been worse....I say 'could' because the GOP controlled House and Senate were bound and determined to outspend the Perverted President! I don't know if they would have been that generous in dealing with AlBore.

31 posted on 03/12/2002 3:53:51 PM PST by Rowdee
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To: gratefulwharffratt
I really really want you to be right Ratty!! I will very disillusioned if it goes the other way. Lynn
32 posted on 03/12/2002 3:55:20 PM PST by Canadian Outrage
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To: gratefulwharffratt
Yawn......sounds like you've been courting Miss Marple!!! LOL!
33 posted on 03/12/2002 3:55:41 PM PST by Rowdee
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To: null and void;gratefulwharffratt;ValerieUSA;Prentice;Rowdee;lodwick;yall
Hey y'all! Anybody home? I hope y'all aren't gonna leave me talkiing to myself again tonight. I feel SO abandoned. What have I missed? I don't have time to catch up the thread. I had 27 posts to me mostly on the amnesty thread. I don't think I will catch that up either.
34 posted on 03/12/2002 3:58:18 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: ValerieUSA
Val you and I are always pretty much on the same page. I know that lots and lots of people have extremely tough situations in life but not all of them have the same strength or are made of the same metal. You and I and many others obtain our strength from above. However, I have compassion on those who are basically possessed. This is not way excuses what happened to the innocent children. That was innocent blood that was shed. The MAIN perpetrator here is MR. YATES. I don't feel she should ever walk the streets again but killing her won't accomplish any more than Not killing her. Love Lynn
35 posted on 03/12/2002 4:01:32 PM PST by Canadian Outrage
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To: sweetliberty
Hi Sweet. I'm heading home in a little bit...
36 posted on 03/12/2002 4:02:00 PM PST by null and void
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To: gratefulwharffratt
Im not happy about amnesty either,but it was an inevitability.Im not ready to condemn Bush for it either.I knew something like this would happen when I watched the first Bush-Fox speech last year.I think W understands the need to placate the pro illegal alien left from time to time. How are you doing,BTW?
37 posted on 03/12/2002 4:03:07 PM PST by cardinal4
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To: Prentice
I believe in JUSTICE> Man alone is not called to carry out Justice. Justice WILL be done. and it will be done PERFECTLY.
38 posted on 03/12/2002 4:03:30 PM PST by Canadian Outrage
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To: null and void
Hi Nully! How's the job going? Sounds like you're getting settled in. You're complaining already about the boss infringing on FReeping time!
39 posted on 03/12/2002 4:05:30 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: Admin Moderator
Most of us do not know what in the hell world you are talking about - all we know is that after every Fundraiser JohnRob starts jacking with the functionality of FR. Please explain what he is doing, why he's doing it, and how it will make FR a better, and easier site to use.

Some of gave money, some of us give every month to what we know and love - please tell us what the hell is going on and why? If JR is going to make this super-duper thingie - go ahead and make it, and then transfer us over. But don't do this pulling of the teeth transfer.

Thanks so much, JL

40 posted on 03/12/2002 4:05:52 PM PST by lodwick
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To: sweetliberty
Yup! Home, Sweet Home...
41 posted on 03/12/2002 4:10:22 PM PST by null and void
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To: sweetliberty
I'm going to head out now. I need to get a copy of AutoCAD for Dummies. I've forgotten how to play with blocks...
42 posted on 03/12/2002 4:11:55 PM PST by null and void
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To: sweetliberty
They passed it.....rewarding criminals is now the way to go...that is, if there's a chance a vote is there for ya....just look at at the liberal idjuts that went for it.
43 posted on 03/12/2002 4:12:04 PM PST by Rowdee
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To: Rowdee
Yawn......sounds like you've been courting Miss Marple!!! LOL!


So... if he DOES veto it, will you then post in huge letters, "Ratty was right, Rowdee was wrong!!" as a way of admitting your prejudice??

44 posted on 03/12/2002 4:15:28 PM PST by gratefulwharffratt
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To: Rowdee
"They passed it"

Well, there goes my hope in the future, and a lot of my respect for President Bush, not to mention the rest of these fools in Congress. As far as I'm concerned none of them will ever have my voter again! Of course with all the damned illegals that will be voting now I guess they really won't need it!!

45 posted on 03/12/2002 4:15:42 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: sweetliberty
As I recall, it was back in the late 50s that Khruschev was mouthing off to Ag Secretary Ezra Benton that the communists would never have to fire a shot against America--that it would be accomplished from within.....that American people would never accept communism at one big chunk....but that they would take it a little bit at a time.

Question: Are we more closer to socialism/communism NOW than back in 1959?

46 posted on 03/12/2002 4:16:19 PM PST by Rowdee
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To: gratefulwharffratt
Yes sir, I will.....and I shall cut and paste this as a reminder to myself....'kay? I won't ask for anything recripocal. :)
47 posted on 03/12/2002 4:19:50 PM PST by Rowdee
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To: Rowdee
Well, now the Mexicans have been saying the same thing, for quite some time now. They PLAN to take over, at least some states....and WE are helping them!! Bahamas anyone?
48 posted on 03/12/2002 4:21:47 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: Rowdee
wELL WE CERTAINLY ARE CLOSER TO GLOBALISM = SOCIALISM!!
49 posted on 03/12/2002 4:22:14 PM PST by Canadian Outrage
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To: gratefulwharffratt
Damn you, sweet ratt....you got me confused on bills in order to get me to agree to 'brag' about you.....I don't give a sh!t what he does with CFR.....I have the amnesty issue on my mind.

Can you re-ask me and specifically refer to whichever bill you are asking me to say you're right if he vetos? Please.......c'mon......pretty please.....listen here.......dang it......you little ratt! Thank you, dear.

50 posted on 03/12/2002 4:25:10 PM PST by Rowdee
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