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JOE KLEIN UNDERMINES OWN THESIS / Admits to Hannity: "clinton was weak on terrorism"
Hannity and Colmes | 3-14-02 | Mia T

Posted on 03/14/2002 3:01:55 AM PST by Mia T

 

JOE KLEIN UNDERMINES OWN THESIS

Admits to Hannity: "clinton was weak on terrorism"

 

 

by Mia T, Mar. 14, 2002

 

  

Cn Hannity & Colmes last night, Joe Klein undermined the central thesis of his most recent clinton hagiography, "The Natural," that clinton ran "a serious, disciplined, responsible presidency."

Klein exposed the absurdity of his own reasoning by admitting that "clinton was weak on terrorism," (a position, BTW, that is not inconsistent with the more enlightened current leftist dogma).

But only in a deluded liberal's mind could such an utter failure as a president be considered a successful president...

The clintons' failure to confront terrorism -- the clintons' failure even to recognize the critical need to confront terrorism -- indeed, the clintons' aiding and abetting of the terrorists -- must necessarily be the defining moment of the clintons' --uh -- presidency, trumping even the systematic deconstructing of our society as a democracy by clinton corruption. . .

And all of this, BTW, ultimately renders "sleaze, the sequel" unelectable, clinton "infrastructure" notwithstanding.

 



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KEYWORDS: clintoncorruption; clintonfailure; clintonlegacy; mediamalfeasance
MURPHY'S LAW PERVERTED

by Mia T

 

 

The only difference between Jesse Jackson

 

 

and the clintons

 

is that Jackson offers up his unintelligible banalities in doggerel.

   

It is axiomatic.

Anything those three can possibly destroy, they will...

 

but only if they can line their pockets in the process...

 

Nine-eleven's cause and effect, these three self-serving, racist, balkanizing, atavistic slugs are depraved and dangerous...

They continue to undermine Bush's war on terrorism.

 

To paraphrase Shelley:

Jackson-rodham-clinton

Bane of all genius, virtue, freedom, truth,

They make slaves of men, ruins of civilizations.

CLINTON SYNCHRONICITY SCHEME:

The first law of thermodynamics ensures failure

 

BY MIA T

 

Orchestrated delegitimizing of Daschle

(how much more illegitimate must the joker be?)...

and "leaks" denying presidential aspirations of hillary clinton...

simultaneously spewed by clinton "infrastructure"...

together with convenient "pres--uh--I mean, you know, senator, HA HA" slips-of-the-tongue

from the W I D E B O D Y. low-center-of-gravity predator, herself...

will continue <YAWN> unabated through '08 in the hopes of conferring legitimacy

on this inept, depraved, unaccomplished, repulsive fraud.

 

The basic clinton scheme:

A non-announcement of a non-campaign by a non-entity

to make that non-entity someone.

 

The scheme will fail.

The first law of thermodynamics will accomplish

what the laws of the land could not...

 


1 posted on 03/14/2002 3:01:55 AM PST by Mia T
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To: Gail Wynand; looscannon; Lonesome in Massachussets; river rat; Freedom'sWorthIt; IVote2; Slyfox...
 

 

JOE KLEIN STRIKES OUT. . . AGAIN
 
 
by Mia T, Mar. 11, 2002
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Cill clinton is not Jack Stanton and bill clinton is not a "natural...[political] talent," -- "squandered" or otherwise -- post-9/11 apologist holdout, Joe Klein, notwithstanding.
 
The flawed central premise of Joe Klein's current clinton hagiography, "The Natural," is really nothing more than a convoluted retread of hillary clinton's pernicious "compartmentalization" spin -- that a proven felon and utter reprobate can remain president, that clinton can be a failed human being but a good president -- mythology designed to save her zipper-hoisted, W•I•D•E•B•O•D•Y, low-center-of-gravity self by saving her rapist husband.
 
If nothing else, 9/11 debunks that myth.
 
By buying into the clintons' pernicious "compartmentalization" spin, Joe Klein makes the same error made by The New York Times when it endorsed the first clinton a second time (and the second clinton the first time)...the same error made by the feminists when they supported a sexual predator and his complicit,zipper-hoisted partner... the same error made by Doris Kearns Goodwin and those 400 other hog-and-bow tied-save-clinton, retrograde-obsessing historiographers who got all unhinged over the impeachment of clinton, claiming that it would "leave the presidency permanently disfigured and diminished, at the mercy as never before of the caprices of any Congress"... even as they dismissed the real and present--and future!! -- danger to the presidency and the country of not impeaching and removing this admittedly unfit (Goodwin), "documentably dysfunctional" (NYT), presidency-diminishing (Goodwin), power-abusing, psychopathic thug.
 
That Joe Klein still thinks he can, post-9/11, credibly argue that clinton ran "a serious, disciplined, responsible presidency" is testament to leftist self-delusion, indeed, to the left's utter unfitness for office.
Q ERTY2 "There isn't a shred of evidence."

HILLARY, YOU KNOW, KnowNothing Victim Q ERTY4 double bagel,

W I D E B O D Y. low-center-of-gravity Dim Bulb, Congenital Bottom Feeder

Q ERTY3 zipper-hoisted

Q ERTY6 utter failure

rodham/clinton reality-check BUMP!

it won't s-p-i-n
 
Fraudulent Democrat Scheme Fails as Bush Soars
BUSH: NATIONAL SECURITY 1st PRIORITY. . ."I will not wait on events, while dangers gather."
THE CLINTON LEGACY PLACED IN STARK RELIEF
 
The Real Danger of a Presidential Fake:
Post-9/11 Reconsideration of The Placebo President
 
CLINTON-WAS-AN-UTTER-FAILURE Containment Team Scheme Fails Again
Ollie North Laughs Ann Lewis Off Stage
 
Helen Thomas Syndrome: THE SYMPTOMS
 
Will Riefenstahl-esque "editing to perfection" resurrect the clintons?
 
WHOSE DOG WAS WAGGED?
 
Frankenstein, The Sequel:
'Black Hawk Down' Was Set to Blame Clinton for 9/11
 
hillary clinton, Congenital Bottom Feeder, Cowers Below Network Radar,
Continues to Subsist on Cozy Clintonoid Interviews of Colmes Kind
 
hillary's head revisited:
hillary clinton's brain (such as it is) II
 
Buddy Death Report Raises More Questions Than It Answers
 
 "The Daschle Scheme"
 
THE HILLARY, YOU KNOW, CLINTON TRANSCRIPT:
Analyzed and Annotated
 
See also:
 
Can the President Think?
 
THE MYTH OF HILLARY'S BRILLIANCE
 
Mindless rhinestone-studded-and-tented kleptocracy
 
OFF THE RECORD: AN OLD DOG NEEDS NEW TRICKS
 
The man is an artist: He's not just 'Slick Willie' anymore
 
Hey, what a party!
New Year's at the White House
 
Senator Dim Bulb by Gary Aldrich © 2001 WorldNetDaily.com
Annotated by Mia T
 

2 posted on 03/14/2002 3:03:47 AM PST by Mia T
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To: Mia T
Memo: To Joe Klein
Subject: Clinton's Legacy re: Terrorism
Date: September 11, 2001

DUH !


3 posted on 03/14/2002 3:19:44 AM PST by Seeking the truth
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To: Seeking the truth
JOE KLEIN PUSHING THE HOPE SCHOLARSHIPS AS CLINTON'S CLAIM TO RUSHMORE IS...

Q ERTY6 DEAD-KIDS-DON'T-MATRICULATE DUMB!

the clintons were utter failures and the GOP had better exploit it 4th-Estate Malfeasance (DEATH BY MISREPORT) REALITY CHECK bump!


4 posted on 03/14/2002 3:42:19 AM PST by Mia T
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To: Mia T
"The clintons' failure to confront terrorism -- the clintons' failure even to recognize the critical need to confront terrorism -- indeed, the clintons' aiding and abetting of the terrorists -- must necessarily be the defining moment of the clintons' --uh -- presidency, trumping even the systematic deconstructing of our society as a democracy by clinton corruption. . ."

Another 'Mia Strike' !. . . and a Bump for Mia T. . .

5 posted on 03/14/2002 4:11:55 AM PST by cricket
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To: Mia T
Klein's been performing penance ever since it came out he was the author of "Primary Colors."

"Serious, disciplined presidency" indeed.

6 posted on 03/14/2002 4:47:12 AM PST by Illbay
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To: Illbay
Klein's been performing penance ever since it came out he was the author of "Primary Colors."
"Serious, disciplined presidency" indeed.-- Illbay
 

True...but ironically...PRIMARY COLORS was a rather pointless pastel pastiche...

A CLOCKWORK ORANGE Q ERTY6 rodham clinton REALITY CHECK BUMP!
 

 

 

 

by Mia T

 
Not Joe Klein's Primary Colors. And not Jack Stanton.
bill clinton is straight out of
Stanley Kubrick's A CLOCKWORK ORANGE.
 
clinton is Alex,
one of the few truly amoral characters in either film or literature;
not quite as Kubrick (or Burgess) had imagined him, however,
but rumpled, wrinkled, paunchy, edematous,
stripped of the youth-excuse
after 30 additional, pathetic, recidivistic years
of marauding, stomping, raping, gangbanging, deceiving and destroying.
 
Like A CLOCKWORK ORANGE, the story of bill clinton
is the story about a society that has lost its capacity for moral choice.
But unlike in the less fabulous and no more ironic fable,
clinton is not mere nascent symbol but nihilistic agent.
 
clinton, like Alex, is the leader of the gang, the "droogies."
Eerily prefigured by the rocking, crooked phallus,
clinton's a conscienceless sadist
who thrills at risk and gratuitous destruction,
whose sexual and non-sexual impotence
is at the root of his obsession with "the old inout."
 
When Alex kills a woman during a rape, Alex is sent to prison.
When clinton rapes women, girls, his country and God knows what else. . .
and kills? --- check out those fourscore-plus deaths, please!
And don't forget the wag-the-dog, desperately-seeking-a-legacy bombings,
or the cold-blooded Ricky Ray Rector execution---
not clinton but society is imprisoned,
imprisoned in clinton's
besmirched, semen-stained, feckless presidency.
 
A risible and repulsive result;
yet not even the punch line.
 
While Alex is conditioned in prison with aversion therapy,
transmuted into a moral robot who becomes nauseated
by the mere thought of sex and violence,
bill clinton and his Thought Police,
in a perverse reverse aversion,
have conditioned society's collective brain
into not mere acquiescence but twisted admiration.
 
In the end,
if clinton's arrogant, ruthless, reckless nature is restored to him,
it seems the joke will be on all of us,
for it will be a victory for infinite victimhood and irresponsibility,
for seduction, for violence, for nihilism, for anarchy.
 
We will have set apart clinton as the hero
by making his victims less human than he;
we will have allowed clinton to carefully estrange us from his victims
so that we can enjoy the rapes and the beatings
as much as clinton himself does.
 

 


7 posted on 03/14/2002 5:44:35 AM PST by Mia T
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To: Mia T
I also heard Klein opining that 911 gave Bush the international crisis and righteous cause that focused his presidency in a way that Clinton always needed. Like it's a gift to Bush in a way.

He totally ignores the hundreds dead from terrorism on Clinton's watch who were virtually swept under the carpet. I guess Joe thinks that thousands dead would have woke Clinton up in a way that hundreds of dead people couldn't.

Asinine is too kind.

8 posted on 03/14/2002 5:49:53 AM PST by dead
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To: Mia T
if this piece of crap saw on MONEY OR SEX involved in it for him he could care less.
9 posted on 03/14/2002 6:12:18 AM PST by chiefqc
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To: Mia T
Where can I find this same story, but without the pointless cartoon graphics?
10 posted on 03/14/2002 6:13:16 AM PST by Redbob
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To: dead
From Woodward's book, The Choice - p 65:
 
 
...Clinton held a secret strategy session in the White House with Hillary, Gore, Panetta, Ickes and several cabinet secretaries. clinton asked everybody to keep the discussion private. He said he wanted to recapture winning themes of his 1992 victory, with emphasis on the middle class and traditional party groups such as labor. But it was a mushy meeting, and because some details soon leaked to the media no more such large sessions were held.
 
 
As Clinton continured his search, he lamented that he could not see a big, clear task before him. Part of him yearned for an obvious call to action or even a crisis. He was looking for that extraordinary challenge which he could define and then rally people to the cause. He wanted to find that galvanizing moment.
 
 
"I would have preferred being president during World War II" he said one night in January 1995. "I'm a person out of my time."
 
Washington -- Lucky though he was, Bill Clinton never had his shot at greatness...he never got the opportunity George W. Bush was given this Tuesday: the historic chance to lead.

Chris Matthews: Bush's war

Q ERTY6 the clintons were utter failures (and the GOP had better exploit it) REALITY CHECK BUMP!

 
Clinton's failure to grasp the opportunity to unravel increasingly organized extremists, coupled with Berger's assessments of their potential to directly threaten the U.S., represents one of the most serious foreign policy failures in American history

Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize

 

 

Bill Clinton may not be the worst president America has had, but surely he is the worst person to be president.*

---GEORGE WILL, Sleaze, the sequel

 

Had George Will written Sleaze, the sequel (the "sequel" is, of course, hillary) after 9-11-01, I suspect that he would have had to forgo the above conceit, as the doubt expressed in the setup phrase was, from that day forward, no longer operational.

Indeed, assessing the clinton presidency an abject failure is not inconsistent with commentary coming from the left, most recently the LA Times: "Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize."

When the clintons left office, I predicted that the country would eventually learn--sadly, the hard way--that this depraved, self-absorbed and inept pair had placed America (and the world) in mortal danger. But I was thinking years, not months.

It is very significant that hillary clinton didn't deny clinton culpability for the terrorism. (Meet the Press, 12-09-01), notwithstanding tired tactics (if you can't pass the buck, spread the blame) and chronic "KnowNothing Victim Clinton" self-exclusion.

If leftist pandering keeps the disenfranchized down in perpetuity, clinton pandering,("it's the economy, stupid"), kept the middle and upper classes wilfully ignorant for eight years.

And ironically, both results (leftist social policy and the clinton economy) are equally illusory, fraudulent. It is becoming increasingly clear that clinton assiduously avoided essential actions that would have negatively impacted the economy--the ultimate source of his continued power--actions like, say, going after the terrorists.

It is critically important that hillary clinton fail in her grasp for power; read Peggy Noonan's little book, 'The Case Against Hillary Clinton' and Barbara Olson's two books; it is critical that the West de-clintonize, but that will be automatic once it is understood that the clintons risked civilization itself in order to gain and retain power.

It shouldn't take books, however, to see that a leader is a dangerous, self-absorbed sicko. People should be able to figure that out for themselves. The electorate must be taught to think, to reason. It must be able to spot spin, especially in this age of the electronic demagogue.

I am not hopeful. As Bertrand Russell noted, "Most people would sooner die than think; in fact, they do so. "

Mia T, hillary clinton blames hubby for terrorism

(SHE knew nuttin')

Meet the Press, 12-09-01

 

 

*George Will continues: There is reason to believe that he is a rapist ("You better get some ice on that," Juanita Broaddrick says he told her concerning her bit lip), and that he bombed a country to distract attention from legal difficulties arising from his glandular life, and that. ... Furthermore, the bargain that he and his wife call a marriage refutes the axiom that opposites attract. Rather, she, as much as he, perhaps even more so, incarnates Clintonism

Q ERTY3 co-rapist  bump!
 
also:
 
it won't s-p-i-n
 
CLINTON-WAS-AN-UTTER-FAILURE Containment Team Scheme Fails Again
Ollie North Laughs Ann Lewis Off Stage
 
clinton Positively Reinforces 9/11 Terrorist Acts
 
Helen Thomas Syndrome: THE SYMPTOMS
 
Will Riefenstahl-esque "editing to perfection" resurrect the clintons?
 
WHOSE DOG WAS WAGGED?
 
Frankenstein, The Sequel:
'Black Hawk Down' Was Set to Blame Clinton for 9/11
 
hillary's head revisited:
hillary clinton's brain (such as it is) II
 
Buddy Death Report Raises More Questions Than It Answers
 
Fraudulent Democrat Scheme Fails as Bush Soars
BUSH: NATIONAL SECURITY 1st PRIORITY. . ."I will not wait on events, while dangers gather."
THE CLINTON LEGACY PLACED IN STARK RELIEF
 
hillary clinton, Congenital Bottom Feeder, Cowers Below Network Radar,
Continues to Subsist on Cozy Clintonoid Interviews of Colmes Kind
 
 "The Daschle Scheme"
 
THE HILLARY, YOU KNOW, CLINTON TRANSCRIPT:
Analyzed and Annotated
 
Can the President Think?
 
THE MYTH OF HILLARY'S BRILLIANCE
 
Mindless rhinestone-studded-and-tented kleptocracy
 
OFF THE RECORD: AN OLD DOG NEEDS NEW TRICKS
 
The man is an artist: He's not just 'Slick Willie' anymore
 
Hey, what a party!
New Year's at the White House
 
Senator Dim Bulb by Gary Aldrich © 2001 WorldNetDaily.com

Annotated by Mia T

11 posted on 03/14/2002 6:19:19 AM PST by Mia T
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To: dead
I also heard Klein opining that 911 gave Bush the international crisis and righteous cause that focused his presidency in a way that Clinton always needed. Like it's a gift to Bush in a way.

He totally ignores the hundreds dead from terrorism on Clinton's watch who were virtually swept under the carpet. I guess Joe thinks that thousands dead would have woke Clinton up in a way that hundreds of dead people couldn't.

Asinine is too kind.--dead

 

LATE EDITION! Additional Material, Morris WSJ article
CLINTON-WAS-AN-UTTER-FAILURE Containment Team Scheme Fails Yet Again
 
Dick Morris to Greta Van Susteren: "You're still a CNN person!"
  • Calls clinton an UTTER FAILURE IN COMBATING TERRORISM,
  • Implies that clinton is Proximate Cause of 9/11
  by Mia T

CEW YORK, Feb. 7--Greta Van Susteren, clintonoid extralegal cudgel plucked by Fox from the eponymous Clinton News Network (CNN) and now host of her own show, "On the Record," demonstrated in real-time that her much "eyed" Fox-y redo was, indeed, only cosmetic.

In a state of obvious disequilibrium at "fair and balanced" Fox, Greta, cross-examining Dick Morris with standard issue clinton cya-ing talking points, behaved as though she were still a CNN CLINTON-WAS-AN-UTTER-FAILURE Containment Team Scheme co-conspirator. And Morris, not one to take it lying down, (so to speak), quickly called her on it with, "You're still a CNN person!"-- spitting out "CNN" with a force usually reserved only for the most obscene invective.

The impetus for Greta's rage was a devastating piece in "The Wall Street Journal" detailing clinton's utter failure in combating terrorism; it was written by Morris, who should know -- he was former clinton advisor, personal pollster and closest confidant.

clinton's brain...or ear?

The Times (and Greta) may be clueless, but not so Time, which was set to depict Morris on their September 9, 1996 cover as clinton's brain. But when Clinton balked, Time blinked and Morris became clinton's Jiminy Cricket, instead...

The logical endpoints of Morris' argument -- that clinton is the proximate cause of 9/11, that clinton put civilization, itself, at great risk and that clinton was, therefore, an utter failure as president -- put Greta in extreme CLINTON-WAS-AN-UTTER-FAILURE Containment Team Scheme mode.

Greta buttressed her clinton cya-ing talking points with clinton-provided New York Times cites. There is no clearer case of petitio principii, begging the question, than this. (Any person still sentient after eight years of the clintons knows that the The New York Times is merely the clinton cya-ing talking points writ large (or is it "small"??).)

Greta's position at Fox is now regarded as tenuous. Exposed by Morris as an unrepentant CLINTON-WAS-AN-UTTER-FAILURE Containment Team Scheme co-conspirator, a role inconsistent with both the Fox News mission ("fair and balanced") and audience demographics, Greta is second on the clinton sycophancy scale only after entrenched DC doyenne, Helen Thomas.

What is particularly interesting are allegations that Time changed its intended Sept. 9 cover featuring Dick Morris after the president expressed displeasure. The cover story described in detail Morris' extensive power in the White House.

Sherry Rowlands, Morris' call girl, told Star that on Aug. 22, four days before the Time issue hit the stands, she overheard Morris speaking with Clinton on the phone about the cover. Morris told Clinton the cover would either depict Morris inside Clinton's head as his "brain," or Morris would be pictured leading Clinton. After Clinton blew up in anger, Rowlands told Star, she heard Morris say "Yes, sir, I'll call them about it -- it's not too late ... I'm sorry, sir. I'll call them immediately." Star quotes Morris, via Rowlands, as telling Time's editor "Well, I told you he's against it.... He is the president. And -- I don't mean to tell you your place -- but you're just an editor." The final cover was a photo-illustration of a miniature Morris perched on Clinton's shoulder with the caption "The Man Who Has Clinton's Ear."

Time will not tell

Famous for his simultaneous use of phones and toes, Dick Morris conducted an "On the Record" poll tonight as he toed the line with Greta. "According to the poll," said Morris, " Greta's a goner."

 

ORIGINAL POST WITH ADDITIONS

WSJ Opinion Journal

While Clinton Fiddled

A story of fecklessness in the face of terror.

BY DICK MORRIS

Tuesday, February 5, 2002 12:01 a.m. EST

As the elections of 1996 loomed, a sense of crisis pervaded America. We seemed under attack from all directions by terrorists, foreign and domestic. A bomb exploded amid the Summer Olympic Games. TWA flight 800 vaporized over the Atlantic and many suspected terror. Nineteen American soldiers died and hundreds were wounded as a bomb ripped through their barracks in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. A year before, the federal office building in Oklahoma City was destroyed, killing hundreds more. In 1993, a bomb ripped through the World Trade Center hospitalizing a thousand people and killing six.

At the White House, we held hurried meetings as we watched with worry the growth of terrorism. We polled and speculated about its possible impact on President Clinton's re-election only a few months later.

Some of the president's staff and his consultants pressed the case for aggressive action to contain terror at home and attack it abroad. But at the center of the storm, Bill Clinton sat with an unusual imperturbability. Even as he fretted about whether to sign the welfare reform act and brooded about the FBI file, Paula Jones and Whitewater scandals, he seemed curiously uninvolved in the battle against terror.

Advised that his place in history rested on eliminating the deficit, making welfare reform work, and smashing the international network of terrorists militarily and economically, he remained unusually passive. Around him, his foreign-policy advisers--particularly former trade lawyer Sandy Berger, then serving as deputy national security adviser--seemed to work overtime at opposing tough measures against terror.

When Sen. Alfonse D'Amato pushed through legislation that sought to cripple the Iranian funding of terrorism by mandating U.S. retaliation against foreign or American companies that aided its oil industry, Mr. Berger advised a veto unless the bill were amended to allow the president to waive the sanctions. When the bill passed--with the waiver--Mr. Berger successfully blocked the implementation of sanctions in virtually every case.

When Mr. Clinton was advised to pass a law requiring that driver's licenses for aliens expire when their visas do (so that a routine traffic stop could trigger the deportation process), Deputy Chief of Staff Harold Ickes and White House adviser George Stephanopoulos worked hard to kill the idea. They derided the proposal, which called for the interface of FBI and Immigration and Naturalization Service data about illegal aliens, visa expirations and terrorist watch lists with state motor vehicle records, as racial profiling and warned that it might alienate Mr. Clinton's political base. Had the idea been adopted, suicide bomber Mohamed Atta would have been subject to deportation when he was stopped for driving without a license, three months before Sept. 11, 2001.

President Clinton refused to adopt proposals that he establish a "president's list" of seemingly charitable groups that were really fund-raising fronts for terrorists, to warn Americans to stay away. Despite evidence from a 1993 FBI wiretap that the Homeland Foundation was raising money for the terrorist group Hamas, Mr. Clinton did not seize its assets, and the group functioned until President Bush closed it down.

Despite staff and consultant recommendations that he require baggage X-ray screening, federalization of air security checkpoints, and restoration of air marshals to commercial flights, Mr. Clinton did nothing to implement any of these proposals. Vice President Al Gore also failed to embrace them when his Commission on Air Safety made its recommendations in 1997. It required Sept. 11 to get these common-sense initiatives adopted.

After the February 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center, President Clinton never visited the site and only alluded to it once in his regular Saturday radio address right after the bombing. Visiting New Jersey shortly after the attack, he urged Americans not to "overreact."

After the 1993 bombing--the first attack by foreign terrorists on U.S. soil--Mr. Clinton never met privately with the head of the CIA for the ensuing two years! Because of this lack of presidential focus, the investigation proceeded so slowly that we did not know of Osama bin Laden's involvement until 1996. As a result, the U.S. turned down Sudan's offer to give us the terrorist mastermind on a silver platter because we said that we lacked evidence on which to hold him.

Even when the Saudis stonewalled our investigation of the Riyadh bombing and handicapped the FBI by beheading those it suspected of involvement without permitting their interrogation, Mr. Clinton never criticized the kingdom publicly or, in my presence, privately.

When advisers proposed an oil embargo against Iran, the president did nothing, despite evidence that the Riyadh bombers had Iranian backing. At the time, Iran's daily oil production of three million barrels could have been offset by an expected increase of 1.5 million barrels in world-wide production (which proved conservative). In addition, the Saudis repeatedly and publicly indicated their commitment to "price stability," signaling their willingness to increase production to help fill the shortfall and avoid a price runup.

Republicans deserve their share of the blame as well. After the Oklahoma City attack, President Clinton made an eminently sensible, if somewhat limited, set of recommendations to the GOP-dominated Congress. But, because the Oklahoma City terrorists were right-wing extremists, Republicans looked askance at reasonable ideas like permitting roving wiretaps on terror suspects--subsequently adopted when Mr. Bush proposed it--and attaching tagents to identify the origin of explosives.

The real question, however, is why Mr. Clinton was so tentative in the war on terror. Everything else seemed to come first. He wouldn't toughen immigration enforcement because he feared a backlash from his political base. He waived sanctions against companies doing business with Iran because he worried about European reaction. There was no effort to cut off the flow of money to terror fronts because Janet Reno raised civil libertarian concerns. (Mr. Clinton did freeze the Hamas assets, but since they didn't maintain accounts in their own name, it netted no money.)

Bill Clinton revealed himself as a man of the 20th century while Mr. Bush has understood that Sept. 11, 2001, marked the beginning of a new era. In Bill Clinton's epoch, terror was primarily a criminal justice problem which must not be allowed to get in the way of the "real" foreign-policy issues--relations with Russia and China and the dynamics of the Western alliance. Indeed, if Mr. Clinton had any personal stamp on foreign policy, it was the subordination of military and security issues to economic concerns.

Terrorists fit into the scheme about the same way drug traffickers did--they were deplored, to be sure, and, where possible without undue inconvenience or loss of life, even attacked. But they hardly occupied center stage in our foreign policy.

Now, we all know better.

Mr. Morris, a Fox News political commentator, was an adviser to President Clinton.

Wall Street Journal
 
THE BILL'S COMING DUE
 
Clinton's Legacy
He didn't do enough to stop terrorists.
 
BY RUSH LIMBAUGH
Thursday, October 4, 2001 12:01 a.m. EDT
 
Since the Sept. 11 massacre, there have been numerous press reports
about Bill Clinton's attendance at funerals, visits to the rescue site,
and his other activities as a former president. What the media have
largely overlooked is the extent to which Mr. Clinton can be held
culpable for not doing enough when he was commander in chief to combat
the terrorists who wound up attacking the World Trade Center and
Pentagon. If we're serious about avoiding past mistakes and improving
national security, we can't duck some serious questions about Mr.
Clinton's presidency.
 
Osama bin Laden already had the blood of Americans on his hands before
Sept. 11. He was reportedly behind the World Trade Center bombing that
killed six; the killing of 19 soldiers at the Khobar Towers in Saudi
Arabia; the bombings of the embassies in Tanzania and Kenya, which
killed 226 people, including 12 Americans; and the attack on the USS
Cole at Aden, Yemen, killing 17 seamen.
 
Mr. Clinton and his former national security adviser, Sandy Berger,
said after Sept. 11 that they had come within an hour of killing bin
Laden when they launched cruise missiles against his camps in 1998.
(Mr.
Clinton also ordered the destruction of a pharmaceutical plant in
Sudan.) Many saw this attack as a diversion from domestic
embarrassments, because it took place only three days after his grand
jury testimony in the Paula Jones case. On Sept. 24, National Review
Online published a report by Byron York that added considerable weight
to this last charge.
 
Mr. York spoke recently to retired Gen. Anthony Zinni, who had been
U.S. commander in the region. Although he supported the cruise missile
attack, the general revealed it was a "million-to-one-shot." "There was
a possibility [bin Laden] could have been there. . . . My
intelligence people did not put a lot of faith in that." His
recollection is a far cry from the version of Messrs. Clinton and
Berger. Which is accurate?
 
On Sept. 13, the Associated Press disclosed that "in the waning days of
the Clinton presidency, senior officials received specific intelligence
about the whereabouts of Osama bin Laden and weighed a military plan to
strike the suspected terrorist mastermind's location. The
administration opted against an attack." The possible attack was
discussed at a meeting last December, which was prompted by "eyes-only
intelligence" about bin Laden's location. A military strike option was
presented at the meeting. There was debate about whether the
intelligence was reliable. In the end, the president decided against
it.
 
The day after AP's story, Hillary Clinton gave a different explanation
of events to CNN. She said that in the last days of her husband's
administration, he planned to kill bin Laden, but that his location
couldn't be pinpointed: "It was human assets, that is, people on the
ground, who provided the information. My memory is that those assets
proved unreliable and were not able to form the basis of the plan that
we were considering launching."
 
Exactly what "eyes-on intelligence" was provided to Mr. Clinton in
December? And just how reliable did the information have to be to merit
a military strike? When Mr. Clinton ordered an attack on bin Laden's
camps in August 1998, Gen. Zinni said that it was a "million-to-one
shot."
 
A partial answer can be found in a Sept. 27 report by Jane's
Intelligence Digest, whose sources "suggested that previous plans to
capture or kill [bin Laden], which were supported by Moscow, had been
shelved by the previous U.S. administration on the grounds that they
might end in humiliating failure and loss of U.S. service personnel."
As a Jane's source put it: "Before the latest catastrophe there was a
distinct lack of political will to resolve the bin Laden problem and
this had a negative impact on wider intelligence operations."
 
Jane's claimed that the fundamental failure to deal with al Qaeda was
due "to a political reluctance to take decisive action during the
Clinton era, mainly because of a fear that it might derail the
Israeli-Palestinian peace process. This was "combined with a general
complacency in Washington towards warnings that the U.S. itself (as
opposed to U.S.
facilities and personnel abroad) might be targeted."
 
President Bush is now leading a world-wide war against terrorism,
focused presently on bin Laden, al Qaeda, and their Taliban sponsors.
It has been widely noted that the U.S. is handicapped in this war by a
lack of good "Humint"--human intelligence--about the terrorists. Here
again the Clinton administration is culpable.
 
In 1995 CIA Director John Deutsch imposed complex guidelines that made
it more difficult to recruit informants who had committed human-rights
violations. Therefore, while the Justice Department has been able to
use former mobsters to get mobsters (e.g. Sammy "the Bull" Gravano, who
killed 19, was the government's key witness against John Gotti), the CIA
has been discouraged from recruiting former terrorists to get
terrorists. This has made infiltrating groups like al Qaeda virtually
impossible.
 
We have no choice but to address the policies and decisions, made at the
very highest level of our government, which helped bring us to this
point. To do otherwise is to be irresponsible and unprepared in the
face of a ruthless enemy, whose objective is to kill many more
Americans.
 
Mr. Limbaugh is a nationally syndicated radio talk show host.
 
 

Andrew Sullivan: The damage Clinton did

...The September 11 massacre resulted from a fantastic failure on the part of the United States government to protect its citizens from an act of war. This failure is now staring us in the face and, if the errors are to be rectified, it is essential to acknowledge what went wrong.

Two questions come to mind: how was it that the Osama Bin Laden network, known for more than a decade, was still at large and dangerous enough this autumn to inflict such a deadly blow? Who was responsible in the government for such a failure of intelligence, foreign policy and national security? These questions have not been asked directly, for good reasons.

There is a need to avoid recriminations at a time of national crisis. But at the same time, the American lack of preparedness that Tuesday is already slowing the capacity to bring Bin Laden to justice by constricting military and diplomatic options. And with a president just a few months in office, criticism need not extend to the young administration that largely inherited this tattered security apparatus.

Whatever failures of intelligence, security or diplomacy exist, they have roots far deeper than the first nine months of this year. When national disasters of unpreparedness have occurred in other countries...ministers responsible have resigned. Taking responsibility for mistakes in the past is part of the effort not to repeat them. So why have heads not rolled?

The most plausible answer is that nobody has been fired because this attack was so novel and impossible to predict that nothing in America's security apparatus could have prevented it. The only problem with this argument is that it is patently untrue. Throughout the Clinton years, this kind of attack was not only predictable but predicted. Not only had Bin Laden already attacked American embassies and warships, he had done so repeatedly and been completely frank about his war. He had even attempted to destroy the World Trade Center in 1993. Same guy, same building. ...

The decision to get down and dirty with the terrorists, to take their threat seriously and counter them aggressively, was simply never taken. Many bear the blame for this: Warren Christopher, the clueless, stately former secretary of state; Anthony Lake, the tortured intellectual at the National Security Council; General Colin Powell, whose decision to use Delta Force units in Somalia so badly backfired; but, above all, former president Bill Clinton, whose inattention to military and security matters now seems part of the reason why America was so vulnerable to slaughter.

Klein cites this devastating quote from a senior Clinton official: "Clinton spent less concentrated attention on national defence than any other president in recent memory. He could learn an issue very quickly, but he wasn't very interested in getting his hands dirty with detail work. His style was procrastination, seeing where everyone was, before taking action. This was truer in his first term than in the second, but even when he began to pay attention he was constrained by public opinion and his own unwillingness to take risks."It is hard to come up with a more damning description of negligence than that.

 

Clinton even got a second chance. In 1998, after Bin Laden struck again at US embassies in Africa, the president was put on notice that the threat was deadly. He responded with a couple of missile strikes against Afghanistan and Sudan, some of which missed their targets and none of which seriously impacted on Osama Bin Laden...

If the security manager of a nuclear power plant presides over a massive external attack on it, then it's only right that he should be held responsible, in part, for what happened. More than 6,000 families are now living with the deadly consequences of the negligence of the government of the United States. There is no greater duty for such a government than the maintenance of national security, and the protection of its own citizens.

When a senior Clinton official can say of his own leader that he "spent less concentrated attention on national defence than any other president in recent memory", and when this administration is followed by the most grievous breach of domestic security in American history, it is not unreasonable to demand some accounting...

We thought for a long time that the Clinton years would be seen, in retrospect, as a mixed blessing. He was sleazy and unprincipled, we surmised, but he was also competent, he led an economic recovery, and he conducted a foreign policy of multilateral distinction.

But the further we get away from the Clinton years, the more damning they seem. The narcissistic, feckless, escapist culture of an America absent without leave in the world was fomented from the top. The boom at the end of the decade turned out to include a dangerous bubble that the administration did little to prevent.

The "peace-making" in the Middle East and Ireland merely intensified the conflicts. The sex and money scandals were not just debilitating in themselves - they meant that even the minimal attention that the Clinton presidency paid to strategic military and intelligence work was skimped on.

We were warned. But we were coasting. And the main person primarily entrusted with correcting that delusion, with ensuring America's national security - the president - was part of the problem.

Through the dust clouds of September 11, and during the difficult task ahead, one person hovers over the wreckage - and that is Bill Clinton. His legacy gets darker with each passing day.

 

Clinton's Failure to Confront Iraq
Allan J. Favish
 
 
Iraqi Complicity in the World Trade Center Bombing and
Beyond by Laurie Mylroie, which was published in June of this year and discusses the 1993 bombing of the WTC.
 
She explains how Bill Clinton intentionally failed to confront Iraq over its complicity in the bombing and other attacks.
 
She supported Clinton in 1992 having been an advisor on Iraq policy to the 1992 Clinton presidential campaign, as you can see at
http://admissions.geneseo.edu/cgi-bin/nrap?Roemer98.html
 
Her September 13, 2001 article in the Wall Street Journal on the recent attack is at
http://opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=95001120
 
In a live interview on Los Angeles radio station KPFK, broadcast around noon today, PST, she stated that Clinton lied about more than sex; he lied about national security.
 
I wish somebody would ask her about whether she thinks the Clinton administration covered up Iraqi involvement in the murder of those aboard TWA 800 and ordered the military not to pursue the attackers.
 
 
 

Bush: "I'm not going to fire a $2 million missile at a $10 empty tent and hit a camel in the butt."

Washington and the liberal media may be getting the message: George Bush is for real and he's no Mr. Nice Guy when it comes to war.

Even Newsweek's Howard Fineman, a liberal Bush-basher, has had to do a double take this week.

Writing in his column of an Oval office meeting with four U.S. Senators -- including Hillary Rodham -- Fineman described Bush "relaxed and in control."

Fineman, drawing a comparison with Winston Churchill's defiance during World War II, quoted the president as telling the Senators: "When I take action," he said, "I'm not going to fire a $2 million missile at a $10 empty tent and hit a camel in the butt. It's going to be decisive."

No doubt, Hillary must have shuddered when she heard that, a clear hit on her husband's eight years of appeasement with terrorists and their backers.

Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

[ASIDE: Have you noticed that as of the morning of 9-11-01, hillary clinton's "best memory" informs her--and she is quick to inform us -- that she was not "co-president" after all?]

 

12 posted on 03/14/2002 6:29:37 AM PST by Mia T
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To: Mia T
"...atavistic slugs..." BTTT!
13 posted on 03/14/2002 7:57:30 AM PST by headsonpikes
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To: Redbob
Redbob: Really they aren't pointless, examine one in detail and you will see how incisive it really is. Not to mention, the satire is deliciously wicked.

FR Regards, Jen

14 posted on 03/14/2002 8:50:09 AM PST by IVote2
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To: Mia T
"But only in a deluded liberal's mind could such an utter failure as a president be considered a successful president..."

And yet.... they do think this... It really is amazing.

15 posted on 03/14/2002 8:51:48 AM PST by IVote2
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To: Mia T
Mia T, I once saw you described as FR's own performance artist-in-residence! You sure are! Great post as always!
16 posted on 03/14/2002 8:54:23 AM PST by texasbluebell
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To: Mia T
Thank you and bump to the top, although it shouldn't really need one...

I think the first item of the day for anyone who is ANYONE on FR is to go find Mia's latest work.

17 posted on 03/14/2002 11:37:58 AM PST by OKSooner
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To: Mia T
Weak! Clinton soul was weak. His mother was worthless. His father was worthless and Bill Clinton's soul is empty.
18 posted on 03/14/2002 6:50:23 PM PST by bmwcyle
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To: Mia T
I have seen this fellow on television interviews. He seems to be of low intellect. He seems also to fear acknowledging the obvious. He doesnt even appear seriously interested in selling his book. Each time I see him squirm, I come to the same conclusion, he is somebody's lackey, sent out to pre-empt a real biography or objective assesment.
19 posted on 03/14/2002 9:43:19 PM PST by Gail Wynand
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To: Gail Wynand
Some girl has to work the late night streets of history. Might as well be Miss Klein.
20 posted on 03/15/2002 2:18:36 AM PST by Leisler
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To: Gail Wynand
CLINTON-WAS-AN-UTTER-FAILURE Containment Team Scheme Fails Again it won't s-p-i-n bump!
 
CLINTON-WAS-AN-UTTER-FAILURE Containment Team Scheme Fails in its 1st Effort
Bill O'Reilly Laughs Lanny Davis Off Stage 
Calls "It's the economy, stupid" an Utter Absurdity Post-9/11
 
 
CLINTON-WAS-AN-UTTER-FAILURE Containment Team Scheme Fails Again
Ollie North Laughs Ann Lewis Off Stage

 

James Galbraith depreciates clinton economic policy
Says clinto-nomics was unsustainable, created unrealistic expectations
"We are seeing its end right now"
 
 
Mort Sahl: No desire to meet clinton
"With no morality, there's nothing there"
Proud to know "the 2 Bushes," the Kennedys, Nixon
 
 
hillary clinton, Congenital Bottom Feeder, Cowers Below Network Radar,
Continues to Subsist on Cozy Clintonoid Interviews of Colmes Kind

 

CLINTON-WAS-AN-UTTER-FAILURE Containment Team Scheme Fails Yet Again
Dick Morris to Greta Van Susteren: "You're still a CNN person!"
Calls clinton an UTTER FAILURE IN COMBATING TERRORISM,
Implies that clinton is Proximate Cause of 9/11
 
JOE KLEIN & CLINTON-WAS-AN-UTTER-FAILURE Containment Team Scheme STRIKE OUT. . . AGAIN
Klein admits, "clinton was weak on terrorism"

I think that history will view this much differently. They will say I made a bad personal mistake, I paid a serious price for it, but that I was right to stand and fight for my country and my constitution and its principles...

-----clinton, himself

 
 
 
 
...[bill clinton], a man who will be regarded in the history books as one of our greatest presidents.

-----Al Gore at clinton's post-impeachment rally

 

I suspect that, to spite us all,

Arthur Schlesinger will live to 120
just so he can write
the definitive clinton hagiography.

--------Mia T, Musings: Senatorial Courtesy Perverted

   

History Lesson
by Mia T
 
Someone--was it Maupassant?--
once called history "that excitable and lying old lady."
The same can be said of historians.
 
Surely it can be said of Doris Kearns Goodwin,
the archetypical pharisaical historian,
not-so-latently clintonoid,
Lieberman-Paradigmatic
(i.e., clinton is an unfit president;
therefore clinton must remain president),
intellectually dishonest,
(habitually doing what the Arthur Schlesingers of this world do:
making history into the proof of their theories).
 
The Forbids 400's argument is shamelessly spurious.
They get all unhinged over the impeachment of clinton,
claiming that it will
"leave the presidency permanently disfigured and diminished,
at the mercy as never before of the caprices of any Congress."
 
Yet they dismiss the real and present--and future!!--danger
to the presidency and the country
of not impeaching and removing
this admittedly unfit, (Goodwin)
"documentably dysfunctional," (The New York Times)
presidency-diminishing, (Goodwin)
power-abusing,
psychopathic thug.
 
Doris Kearns Goodwin and those 400 other
hog-and-bow-tied-save-clinton,
retrograde-obsessing historiographers
are a supercilious, power-hungry,
egomaniacal lot in their own right.
 
For them, clinton validates
what Ogden Nash merely hypothesized:
Any buffoon can make history,
but only a great man can write it.
 
 


21 posted on 03/15/2002 4:30:45 AM PST by Mia T
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To: Mia T
bttt
22 posted on 11/18/2003 7:45:41 PM PST by jla (http://hillarytalks.blogspot.com)
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