Skip to comments.FBI agents said to oppose inquiry (shooting of Eagle Scout in Maryland)
Posted on 03/15/2002 6:22:07 AM PST by MulderEdited on 09/03/2002 4:50:06 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
Two senior agents from the FBI's Baltimore office told a private detective yesterday that the mistaken shooting of an unarmed Pasadena man likely would be ruled a "clean shoot," and discouraged him from looking into the case further, the investigator said in an interview. Dudley F.B. "Butch" Hodgson, a former FBI agent who has been retained by the shooting victim's lawyers, said he was told by one of the agents: "There's no middle ground in this thing. You're either with us or against us."
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Exactly! He probably sleeps like a baby.
That agent's words that you are either for us or against us are frightening, a form of homeland terrorism, IMO. Bush presumably meant that sentence for non-US citizens, and did not intend that it be turned against normal inquiries into the government that can and does kill its citizens. How does being an innocent civilian investigating the death by law enforcement turn a citizen into an anti-American? It does not. The president's words in the mouths of power-hungry law enforcement officers are cruelly twisted, misapplied truth.
I don't like this.
The fed needs to resign at a minimum, and go back to being a mercenary, which is all he is now. He's not a cop, he's an assassin, and a poor one to boot. You can get ex-spetnatz shooters for 1/4 of what they give fibber agents and get better quality hired guns if that's all they want. And they can have all the internal reviews they want, a judge ruled last year that fibbers CAN be tried in state court for manslaughter or murder. They could have tried horribleuchi but they didn't, but the potential is on the books now. Let him get at least manslughter and pull the automatic federal minimum time they are pushing with any felony involving a gun, see how that sinks in to fed cop dom. See how they like project exile. And I hope they raid his house and kick the doors in and toss in some flashbangs and search for other weapons and stomp his wife and kids, slap em around and scream curses at them, then accumulate his household crap and call it 'bomb making" material.
Will it happen, heck no, because they are the "elite" and serve "the elite" above them and if you are just a lowly civvie you are a scumbag perp automatically.
This statement is true in spades for ATF too.
Taking police department reform efforts as an example, it would still be quite difficult for an outsider to fix things. There's just too much political baggage.
There needs to be additional political pressure from another source. If states, who are responsible for protecting the rights of its citizens, were to respond vigorously to each and every incident of abuse, it might provide the necessary pressure. We as state citizens, should in turn pressure state officials to do this every time, like clockwork.
The FBI! F*cking Bureaucratic Incompetents!! They're dishonest, violent, lying bastards! The New Gestapo!! And they're coming to your house next!!! Be ready! Be prepared!
I hope you are right, but history suggests otherwise.
The next fbi agent that is prosecuted for for shooting someone for the thrill of it will be the first one.
Well YOU KNOW how the PRESS hates GW, And he needs to Adress this Before Many more Innocent Americans get capped by the JBT, perhaps WE as in the FReepers need to Start Protesting or Picketing the White House about this.
You know damned well the Press will cover it like Clinton on a Intern if it looks bad for Bush. AND DON'T Let up till that SOB that did the Shooting IS charged and Tried for Attempted Murder!
That's as bad as anything I've heard about this case so far.
The girl's father made the allegation, They left the man lying handcuffed for 40 minutes before allowing medical attention.
Other posters reported that the news film had pictures of the agents celebrating and joking with each other.
The man definitely sounds like an honest man who is deeply offended by the behavior of the agents who spoke to him.
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