The cross: A symbol, but of what?

AP via Providence Journal ^ | 3/16/02 | RICHARD N. OSTLING

[GuillermoX]

What's next? An Atheist "minister"?

BTW, Jesus IS God, in the flesh.

[Khepera]

Crucify Them!

[STD]

Brothers and Sisters, This is the same UCC that wrote "Now No Condemnation" which puts actively practicing homosex's in the pulpit. It also sponsored the litigation against the Boy Scouts. The Unitarian Universalists are doctinally bankrupt. They pick and choose scripture.

Brock, a Harvard Divinity researcher, has chaired the joint global ministries board of the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) and United Church of Christ, and was a theology speaker at the Disciples's national assembly last year. Parker is a United Methodist Church minister and president of the Unitarian Universalist seminary in Berkeley, Calif.

More Jesus gotcha books. They are in for a big suprise. DrMike

[LarryLied]

By the time the left is done, church will be reduced to coffee and donuts. The big debate will be over whether coffee is OK or should they go to de-caf and tea.

I expect this from Unitarians (my church). They've been on this road for 200 years. But a Catholic priest? What is he doing in the church?

[ImaGraftedBranch]

We do not like to believe that we deserve condemnation," she says.

Nice thought, but the fact is God is no respecter of persons. "Lord, I am not worthy..."

[GuillermoX]

Those "churches" aren't part of the Church. They are simply apostate social organizations, tools of the devil.

[Tench_Coxe]

"Yet the cross is spurned by Christian liberals Rita Nakashima Brock and Rebecca Ann Parker. They find belief in Jesus'saving death repellent, saying this sanctifies violence and submission to evil. "

These two cannot be Christians. The 'submission to evil' and the death and Resurrection of the Christ is the central point of Christianity. Several times, Jesus is shown in the Gospels having ( a very human ) difficulty with the fate of which he was aware ( such as the Agony in the Garden ). It is through his sacrifice that humanity was redeemed--purchased by the ultimate price.

To claim to find this idea 'repellant' is definitely not Christian. Perhaps the two women mentioned above are from a town named 'Christian', since they definitely do not have a basic understanding of their faith.

[Ff--150]

Jesus hung on the cross to redeem us, that's why the cross is important. I don't have to hang on it myself. See, those "liberal" Christians need to READ THE BOOK. Duh! Then they might not be liberals any more... .

[Mike Fieschko]

I expect this from Unitarians (my church). They've been on this road for 200 years. But a Catholic priest? What is he doing in the church?

He's a professor emeritus at DePaul U in Chicago, not a priest.

John Dominic Crossan biographical information

I know that doesn't answer your question 'what is he doing in the church [sic]?'

[EternalVigilance]

This article very clearly shows the source of many of the political fallacies foisted on our nation for the last 100 years or so...and without a doubt, the roots of the errors are spiritual.

'Liberal' churches are the source of much of the socialism that has degraded and eroded the foundation of our republic.

Thanks for a great post.

Regards...EV

[SMEDLEYBUTLER]

As another poster pointed out, Crossan is not a priest. Your question could be asked of a number of CINOs, Helen Prejean as only one example.

[billbears]

You know, without His death and resurrection, wouldn't it be just a little waste of time to bother going to church then?

Of course that's what they're after anyway. Deny the basic tenets of the church, then why bother going to church to feel good, we can do that right here in our humanistic government sponsored feel good seminar. Take faith out of the equation and all you have to rely on is the State. Thanks, but no thanks. God works miracles, they don't.

[JCG]

Yet the cross is spurned by Christian liberals Rita Nakashima Brock and Rebecca Ann Parker.

1Timothy 2:12 - But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

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[pax_et_bonum]

Why do these people (Brock, Parker, and Crossan) remind me of the nuns at a local, liberal retreat house who refused to kneel during the consecration at mass, because they felt the need to "stand as adults before God"?

[WOSG]

The whole article refers to people who dont believe in the divinity of Jesus Christ as "Christians". Replace the word "liberal Christian" with "non-Christian" and the article makes 100% more sense. These "theologians" are just leftwingers who found a home.

As for UCC - Should be renamed... "First Liberal Church of Agnosticism, unReformed".

[pax_et_bonum]

By the way, here's another true tale of that retreat house:

I was there on a personal, silent retreat while they had a women's group retreat going on. One day, there was no mass scheduled on the grounds and so I attended their Communion service. The song of choice during the distribution of Holy Communion was "When You Wish Upon A Star."

No joke. The one from, I think, Pinnochio.

[Fzob]

Yet the cross is spurned by Christian liberals Rita Nakashima Brock and Rebecca Ann Parker. They find belief in Jesus' saving death repellent, saying this sanctifies violence and submission to evil.

At least the sentence makes sense now.

[ex-snook]

"the nuns at a local, liberal retreat house who refused to kneel during the consecration at mass, because they felt the need to "stand as adults before God"? "

This seems to be increasing habit with habit-less nuns (pun intended). Maybe they have the same view as Eve who didn't think being made in the 'image and likeness' of God was good enough. Eve wanted to be God.

Maybe with the 'People-is-God' attitude today, these nuns do not accept a 'consecration' performed by some 'apple eating-Jesus-acting' man.

[Fzob]

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