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Priest Fears Gays in Ranks Pose Threat to Church
Boston Herald ^
| 3/6/02
| Joe Fitzgerald
Posted on 03/16/2002 7:48:41 AM PST by marshmallow
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Like the gay activists in society at large, those within the Church are self-absorbed, propaganda-spouting "tolerance" nazis.
To: marshmallow
To: marshmallow
``The majority of these victims were not prepubescent; they were young teens, so it had nothing to do with pedophilia. It's technically called ephebophilia, which is almost exclusively homosexual, and it isn't about comfort; it's about sex.
In other words, it isn't a handful of seriously mentally ill priests, it's gay chickenhawks, and a LOT of them.
This is a great example of how the power of the network news in this country has been broken. The leftist newsies are in a position of having to deny a reality every other literate person knows to be true. This puts them in a position of spending down their credibility every time they pass over this story.
The real test will come if the Roman Catholics can actually purge the gay mafia that has taken hold in their ranks.
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posted on
03/16/2002 8:33:13 AM PST
by
eno_
To: eno_
And they'll never do it till more Catholics get mad, get off their duffs and demand change.
To: marshmallow
``The majority of these victims were not prepubescent; they were young teens, so it had nothing to do with pedophilia. It's technically called ephebophilia, which is almost exclusively homosexual, and it isn't about comfort; it's about sex. This guy hits the nail on the head. Will the RC Church do anything about it? I fear the answer is yes, he will be drummed out the minute this truth starts to get out.
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posted on
03/16/2002 8:53:02 AM PST
by
Fzob
To: marshmallow
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those within the Church are self-absorbed, propaganda-spouting "tolerance" nazis. Who in the world are you talking about? Names please and how many and what proof to substantiate your accusation.
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posted on
03/16/2002 8:58:37 AM PST
by
Renatus
To: marshmallow
Maybe if they opened the priesthood to nuns ,,,
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posted on
03/16/2002 9:03:52 AM PST
by
Thud
To: Thud
Maybe if they opened the priesthood to nuns ,,, I believe there is a shortage of nuns too. The church simply has to end the celibacy requirement, period. If it doesn't, it's finished. So, eventually they will permit priests and nuns to get married. The demographics are against celibacy. Look at the average age of a priest or a nun. Look at where it was 10, 20, 30, etc years ago. Eventually the church will have to face reality. It has to. Or it will die.
To: AlaskaErik
Think twice about nuns. Years ago in the Philadelphia area, NUNS were arrested. By DAY they were sweet, loving "Christians". By night they were prostitutes. You see, from the perspective of ANY gender what Catholicism is requiring is unnatrual and will cause the problems you see.
It's also NOT Biblical to require celibacy. God knows what He is doing by NOT requiring this to serve Him. It's man that insists on rejecting His word. When ever man rebels against God and His teachings, there is ALWAYS a negative consequence. Still, people will fight His word and label you a "basher" and a "hate monger" since they too, reject Him and look to foolish men for what to believe.
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03/16/2002 9:26:40 AM PST
by
nmh
To: marshmallow
I don't want this to happen to me. I am presently a sophmore in college and am seriously feeling a calling to the priesthood, but I really don't want this to happen to me. Catholics need to stand up for the safety of their community so that the Church is pur again. Geez, just what I need, to be hit on by another seminarian.
To: sasherm13
I don't think doing away with celibacy for religious will increase the number called. However, it is my understanding that the gay culture within seminaries causes many heterosexuals who would answer the call to turn away. Perhaps if the Church cleaned them out we would discover our "priest shortage" disappearing over time.
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03/16/2002 9:43:30 AM PST
by
PLK
To: sasherm13
The Episcopal Church USA is also having the same problem. Many of the Dioces are supporting the ordination of practicing homosexuals with the support of the National Church administration. Sad.
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03/16/2002 9:52:15 AM PST
by
MI-WAC
To: sasherm13
The Catholic church is being attacked from within. We need good people on the inside to fight against it. I hope you will be one of them.
FYI, I found a related article on the EWTN web site.
13-Mar-2002 -- EWTNews Brief HOMOSEXUAL GROUP DEFIES VATICAN ORDERS LOUISVILLE
Kentucky, (CWNews.com) -- Despite objections from the Vatican, a conference of Catholic activists seeking changes in Church teaching regarding homosexuality opened in Kentucky this past weekend, with a retired bishop presiding at the opening liturgy.
The convention in Louisville was sponsored by New Ways Ministry, a group which has clashed with Rome because of its statements on homosexuality. In 1999, the Vatican ordered Father Robert Nugent and Sister Jeannine Gramick, the founders of the organization, to cease their public advocacy for homosexuals. Although the two are no longer officially active in New Ways Ministry, the group's public statements remain at odds with Church teachings.
Archbishop Tarcisio Bertone, the secretary of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, had written to Louisville's Archbishop Thomas Kelly, pointing out that New Ways Ministry "does not promote the authentic teaching of the Catholic Church." But the Kentucky archbishop did not discourage participation in the conference.
Archbishop Kelly did tell the conference organizers that they should not celebrate the Eucharist at their conference, because of--as Archbishop Bertone had put it--"the confusion and scandal which will inevitably arise from this event." But New Ways Ministry ignored that directive. And Bishop Leroy Matthiesen, the retired bishop of Amarillo, Texas, presided at the Mass.
Bishop Thomas Gumbleton, a Detroit auxiliary who has been outspoken in his support for homosexuals, also took part in the New Ways Ministry conference.
Questioned about the group's defiance of the order not to celebrate Mass, Archbishop Kelly told the Louisville Courier-Journal that "New Ways Ministry is trying to do good work, but it has to do that work within the context of the Church's teaching." He added: "That is not always easily achieved."
To: marshmallow
If a homosexual marries a woman without revealing his condition, that's grounds for annulment. And I think it's grounds for laicization too.
The gay clergy must go. Period. The psychological issues are too profound.
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posted on
03/16/2002 10:03:06 AM PST
by
Squire
To: spindoctor
Well at least the RC Church heirarchy is trying to do something. There are some really good articles about the ECUSA problems at www.orthodoxanglican.org/virtuosity -- well worth the read
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posted on
03/16/2002 10:04:19 AM PST
by
MI-WAC
To: marshmallow
Believe me, there are wonderful priests throughout this archdiocese, celibate, faithful, loving the Church and loving God's people.
And they have been hung out to dry by the hierarchy of the Catholic Church who are as bad as the rest of the liberal segment of the USA when it comkes to facing the truth about the aims and actions of the Homosexuals
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posted on
03/16/2002 10:05:33 AM PST
by
uncbob
To: sasherm13
I don't want this to happen to me. I am presently a sophmore in college and am seriously feeling a calling to the priesthood, but I really don't want this to happen to me.Try to find an Opus Dei priest and get into spiritual direction to discern your vocation. Opus Dei screens its candidates for ordination very, very well. I have yet to meet a weirdo among the Opus Dei clergy.
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posted on
03/16/2002 10:06:24 AM PST
by
Squire
To: nofriendofbills
And they'll never do it till more Catholics get mad, get off their duffs and demand change.
Well in a way I take peverse pleasure at seeing this happen in Boston
After all all those Irish catholics are responsible for one of the biggest if not biggest champions of the homosexual agenda and abortion on demand in the US Senate, that bloated drunk TEDDY
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posted on
03/16/2002 10:09:26 AM PST
by
uncbob
To: AlaskaErik
Good idea!!You are trying to destroy the Catholic Church,Christendom and Western Civilization,I presume.
If your not better put your thinking cap on and revisit the issues.
To: uncbob
Not to mention Congressman Gary Studds, and Barney Frank.
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posted on
03/16/2002 10:15:41 AM PST
by
MI-WAC
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