Man Spends 18 months in Jail for Burning Firewood

The Idaho Observer ^ | March 13, 2002 | The Idaho Observer

[Travis McGee]

Maybe if the fedgov transferred a few thousand of these excess employees to the INS they would not be giving visas to Mohammed Atta and allowing ten million illegals to squat in our country.

[Don Joe]

The goal of the Feds is to get you into court on some bogus charge so they can drive you to bankruptcy through countless leagal expenses. A warrant from them is a death-warrant. You will have to choices: 1.) Fight them off and take a few of the basterds down with you; 2.) Go to court and loose everything you own, become a felon, and mabey even spend some jail time with who knows what kind of scum.

God stired our forefather's hearts to fight and creat the miracle of history: America. It may take an act of God to do something sililer today.

Get real. Any man who's been through a divorce/custody suit knows that it hardly requires "the feds" it order to be completely destroyed in court along the lines you described above.

There a lot more men who are destroyed each day in this country than there are "gun nuts" (PC term du jour) per year, I'd wager. So where's the outrage?

There isn't any.

When there's no outrage over the millions of lives destroyed for the sin of being an ex-father, exactly how do you expect to drum up support for the few "gun nuts" who have been successfully demonized in the popular media?

You won't.

Sorry to rain on your parade, but facts, as they say, are stubborn things.

[editor-surveyor]

Nuff of this crap!

Is it really true that "the Communists won the Civil War?"

[Hoosier Patriot]

One can see why federal officials such as Green are promoted in public service rather than prosecuted for their actions. In order to protect the Big Lie the federal government must hire and protect faithful little liars. Where such behavior is not usually tolerated in the private sector, it has become a necessary and vital part of public service.

The piece d' resistance of this story, IMHO.

[snopercod]

Taking wood from the King's forest is a capital crime.

[yoe]

Henrietta, do you have the original August 30, 2000 newspaper story?

[Rebelbase]

Yep, I spoke before I finished reading the article. Bad move on my part.

Thanks for being gentle.

[COB1]

Thanks for the bump, E-S.
Now I'd like to pose a question for you:

When the petition was posted putting pressure on New York City to depict the flag raising at the WTC as it actually was instead of how the PC crowd wanted it, that petition garnered over thirty thousand signatures in just a few days.
When we posted our petition to defund the ESA in rebellion to this same style gestapo treatment of American people and property, we struggled to garner five thousand signatures in two months.
I personally handed out pamphlets on a busy steetcorner in Houston; I had very slight interest.
Where is the outrage? How do we make people take notice of what is happening?
I'm open to any suggestion, and I'll work my butt off to make it happen!!

[RGSpincich]

You seem to not have read the article at all; it explains why his imprisonment is so outrageous.

I admit to skipping over the charges as described early in the article. However, a summary of the trial action from the prosecution's standpoint may have looked a lot different than what you see here.

Waite was the only guy up there cutting trees and in possesion of a bulldozer. Roads were excavated in an "off limits" area, nobody else was there, the tread design matched his dozer, grass growing between blades means nothing. I'm guessing there was much circumstantial evidence implicating him and a jury of his peers convicted him. His permit to log an adjoining area gave him opportunity and future access to tree poaching was his motive.

Since you didn't answer the question concerning a jury trial, one can assume that a jury did concur with the prosecutor. Or did Mr. Waite plead guilty? These questions remain unanswered.

[Cultural Jihad]

You purposely misled the forum by stating the article is from a reputable newspaper. As it turns out it's from a wacky libertarian rag.

[tubebender]

The firewood permits here in the Six Rivers Nat Forest state "DEAD AND DOWN" trees only. That was a few years ago but hell you can go to jail for picking to many mushrooms also.

[Bob J]

Your arguments would carry more weight if the title's weren't misleading.

[editor-surveyor]

When there's no outrage over the millions of lives destroyed for the sin of being an ex-father, exactly how do you expect to drum up support for the few "gun nuts" who have been successfully demonized in the popular media?

An excellent point, and one that brings back some really unpleasant memories and emotions.

[BraveMan]

I used to cut cord wood for income when I was a teen ager . . .

Ditto. I slept well at night back then . . .

There was an incident along these lines in the northwoods of my youth. A DNR officer would spook game and seize weapons of those who dared hunt on "his" land. Legalities be dammed.

Many hunters took to the courts, only to find out just how powerful their adversary was. It didn't seem to matter whether a person met all the legal requirements; licensing, season, appropriate weapons, etc. In the woods, jurisdiction and enforcement was his.

He disappeared one day. He was never seen again . . .

[Cultural Jihad]

Your arguments would carry more weight if the title's weren't misleading.

LOL! So true. Next the libertarian rags will carry a story saying that "Andrea Yates persecuted by government for bathing her children!"

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

"When we posted our petition to defund the ESA in rebellion to this same style gestapo treatment of American people and property, we struggled to garner five thousand signatures in two months."

Petition to Kill the Endangered Species Act-Firefighters have died to protect fish. Abolish the ESA!

[Snow Bunny]

EXCELLENT Post Cobby !!!!

I am glad you mentioned this. I agree Cobby. We worked hard and man what a difference in signatures. It is like people just do not care about this kind of thing till it effects them and then it is too late.

[Justa]

"These questions remain unanswered."

Yeah, well, there's gonna be a whole lot more "questions remaining unanswered" when the people up there get fed-up with Federal authority. Year-by-year the actions of overbearing Federal regulations and officials corrode the American peoples' respect for officers of the government. With locales in many cities already 'no-go' areas for Federal agents it begs the question just where-TF are they gonna go in the future? I believe the Clinton administration provides some indication. When all else fails, turn to the military. Don't think the Fed doesn't anticipate it. H, they're probably estatic at the possibility -like the Nazis in the mid-1930s.

[Henrietta]

Your post seems to jump to a lot of unsubstantiated conclusions. Do you have some more info to share with us?