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Irish Prefer Pub to Church, Survey Says
Reuters | 3-19-02 | n/a

Posted on 03/19/2002 9:46:25 AM PST by Temple Owl

DUBLIN (Reuters) - Going to the pub is a more important part of life in Ireland than attending church, the authors of a survey on social attitudes said Tuesday.

Only 22 percent of people in the Irish Republic view regular church-going as important, compared with 35 percent who said going to the pub at least once a week was a priority, the survey by Mintel Ireland said.

It also indicated that those with the most money to spend were more likely to hand it over for a pint of beer than put it in a church collection plate.

"As you become wealthier, your likelihood of being a regular church-goer decreases," said Mark O'Connell, managing director of Mintel Ireland.

"It seems the higher up the ladder you go, the more difficult it gets to pass through the eye of the needle."

People questioned in British-ruled Northern Ireland were more abstemious, with only 20 percent listing pubs as a priority -- although the number of regular church-goers was not much higher at 23 percent.

The authors of the survey, "Irish Lifestyles: The Rise of the Immoral Majority," said it showed the rapid advance of consumerism in both the Republic -- which witnessed an unprecedented economic boom in the latter half of the 1990s -- and Northern Ireland.

"Owning a flash car and a mobile phone, being a member of a private health club and having a home computer are the new symbols of Irish success on both sides of the border," the report said.

Older people living in rural areas were more likely to attend church than young citydwellers.

"Traditional values of a successful marriage, children, financial security and regular attendance at Sunday worship have all taken a back seat in many households."

The report was based on recent interviews with more than 2,000 people in the Irish Republic and Northern Ireland.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: irishpub
An Irishman who prefers a pub? Hard to believe
1 posted on 03/19/2002 9:46:25 AM PST by Temple Owl
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To: Temple Owl
I'd like to business with the idiot that paid for that poll.
2 posted on 03/19/2002 9:48:37 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: Temple Owl
I don't know what is funnier, the fact that the poll returned this result, or the fact that they felt the need to ask in the first place.
3 posted on 03/19/2002 9:52:38 AM PST by Billy_bob_bob
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To: Temple Owl
Even Father Ted or Father Jack could have told you that :-) Father Dougal, however, would be too dumb to know.
4 posted on 03/19/2002 9:55:20 AM PST by gordgekko
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To: Temple Owl
Makes me proud to be Irish :)
5 posted on 03/19/2002 9:57:26 AM PST by mlo
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To: Temple Owl
I always say: I'm not Irish but the people who carry me home from the bar are. God Bless 'em.
6 posted on 03/19/2002 10:00:48 AM PST by Caipirabob
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To: Happygal
Belated Happy St. Patty's Day Ping!
7 posted on 03/19/2002 10:03:13 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Temple Owl
I hope that they didn't pay a lot of money for this survey!

This survey falls into the same category of surveys to prove that pain hurts!

8 posted on 03/19/2002 10:05:56 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Kalashnikov_68
Uh-oh, I own a car, a cell phone, a home computer and am a member of a private health club. I'm damned ;-)
9 posted on 03/19/2002 10:12:38 AM PST by Happygal
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To: Temple Owl
Once the English were thrown off, suddenly Catholicism doesn't hold so much interest for the Irish. Once the Communists were thrown off, suddenly Catholicism doesn't hold so much interest for the Poles.

It's an ancient story.

10 posted on 03/19/2002 10:16:34 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Happygal
Yeah, but it's not exactly a flash car ... :)
11 posted on 03/19/2002 10:17:24 AM PST by JennysCool
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To: Temple Owl
One thing is for sure...

You won't find a pub trying to make you feel guilty about anything...

12 posted on 03/19/2002 10:22:18 AM PST by Ferris
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To: Temple Owl
It just reinforces what I've heard for years: The difference between an Irish wedding and an Irish funeral?

One drunk.

13 posted on 03/19/2002 10:23:00 AM PST by Mr Ducklips
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To: Arthur McGowan
In this week's issue of The Economist, there's an article about the Catholic Church in Poland. According to the magazine, Polish mass attendance is very high, seminaries are full, and the average age of priests is 20 years younger than in EU countries.
14 posted on 03/19/2002 10:25:35 AM PST by irishjuggler
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To: JennysCool
Yeah, but it's not exactly a flash car ... :)

Hey, in Ireland a hairdryer on wheels is flash! *L*

16 posted on 03/19/2002 10:36:18 AM PST by Happygal
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To: Lincoln was a tyrant
I wouldn't exactly call the English light drinkers. Have you ever walked around London at pub closing time? The pubs are packed every night, lots of drunks, lots of drunk men and women staggering around the streets and throwing up. You have to watch where you step the next day when walking near a pub. The Irish get the bad press, but the English are just as bad.
17 posted on 03/19/2002 10:43:34 AM PST by CdMGuy
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To: Lincoln was a tyrant
Don't know where you went to school but you better go back and start over. Italy, France, Spain and Portugal just to name a few are all Catholic countries. And there is no such thing as "drunkenness genes."
18 posted on 03/19/2002 10:46:23 AM PST by kellynla
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To: Temple Owl
I thought pubs and churches were one and the same over there.
19 posted on 03/19/2002 11:00:36 AM PST by droberts
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To: kellynla
Don't know where you went to school but you better go back and start over.

Give him a break, it's his first day. And hopefully last.

20 posted on 03/19/2002 11:04:04 AM PST by Dakmar
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To: Temple Owl
Eminently sensible, IMO. I myself gave up Lent for Guinness.
21 posted on 03/19/2002 11:33:03 AM PST by Slainte
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To: CdMGuy
The Irish get the bad press, but the English are just as bad.

Oh no, worse, much worse.

22 posted on 03/19/2002 11:34:08 AM PST by Slainte
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To: Lincoln was a tyrant
Hmmm . . . so much ignorance . . .

Two fun facts:

(1) Alcoholism is worse in Protestant Scotland and Orthodox Russia than it is in Catholic Ireland.

(2) The Catholic Church was the only institution in Irish society that allowed the Irish people to maintain their dignity during seven centuries of cruel occupation. It fed the starving, educated the poor and resisted the tyrant.

If it were up to the British ascendancy, the literacy rate of Catholics in Ireland at the time of independence would have been 0%, not 89%. The Irish owe their nationhood to the Church.

23 posted on 03/19/2002 11:38:39 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Lincoln was a tyrant
What always struck me as weird about Ireland is that all the other countries of northern Europe became protestant

You should sue your ancestors for giving you the “stupid gene”.

Your understanding of religion, geography, and genetics all suffered for it.

24 posted on 03/19/2002 11:39:42 AM PST by dead
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To: dead
Thanks, I forgot to mention that our friend is apparently laboring under the assumption that Lithuania is in southern Europe.
26 posted on 03/19/2002 11:56:11 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Temple Owl
William Blake, the poet, said it best in his poem, The Little Vagabond:

"Dear mother, dear mother, the church is cold,
But the ale-house is healthy and pleasant and warm;
Besides I can tell where I am used well,
Such usage in Heaven will never do well.

"But if at the church they would give us some ale,
And a pleasant fire our souls to regale,
We'd sing and we'd pray all the live-long day,
Nor ever once wish from the church to stray.

"Then the parson might preach, and drink, and sing,
And we'd be as happy as birds in the spring;
And modest Dame Lurch, who is always at church,
Would not have bandy children, nor fasting, nor birch.

"And God, like a father rejoicing to see
His children as pleasant and happy as he,
Would have no more quarrel with the Devil or the barrel,
But kiss him, and give him both drink and apparel."

William Blake (1757-1827)

27 posted on 03/19/2002 2:46:20 PM PST by Bounceback
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