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GPS UNIT FOUND IN AFGAN CAVE BELONGED TO U.S. SOLDIER KILLED IN SOMALIA
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Posted on 03/20/2002 10:04:22 AM PST by 1Old Pro

This announcement could tie Al Quada terrorists to Somalian war lords. Spokesman says it also could have been purchased on Black market (I find the later more unlikely).

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KEYWORDS: afghanistan; anamericansoldier; gps; talibanlist
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1 posted on 03/20/2002 10:04:22 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world/DailyNews/STRIKE_MAIN.html
Somalia-Afghan Link Device Found in Afghanistan May Have Belonged to Soldier Killed in 1993ABCNEWS.com

March 20 — U.S. forces searching caves and bunkers in eastern Afghanistan have recovered a satellite GPS device that apparently belonged to an American special forces soldier killed nine years ago in Somalia, officials said today.



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"We currently believe this GPS belonged to Army Master Sgt. Gary Gordon, an Army special ops force soldier killed in Somalia in 1993," said Brig. Gen. John Rosa.

The handheld global positioning device appeared to be in working order, and could have been used to aid coordination among Taliban and al Qaeda fighters during Operation Anaconda.

Rosa said officials do not know how the device wound up in a cave in the Shah-e-Kot mountains, where allied forces fought in the recently ended Operation Anaconda.

"It could obviously tie al Qaeda to Somalia," he said.

It was also possible, Rosa added, that the GPS device had been sold on the black market.

The GPS unit had the name "G. Gordon" etched onto the device itself and sewn into the pouch holding it. Gordon was killed during a rescue attempt after two Black Hawk helicopters were shot down in Mogadishu, the Somali capital.

He was posthumously awarded the Medal of Honor for his actions, which were chronicled in the book, Black Hawk Down, and the movie of the same name.

The GPS system was a civilian model favored by some special forces commandos in the early 1990s, because of the device's small size.

Mortar, Grenade Attack on U.S. Forces

In an attack that highlighted the continuing threat from pockets of al Qaeda and Taliban resistance, gunmen armed with machine guns, rocket-propelled grenades and mortars attacked U.S. coalition forces in eastern Afghanistan today, wounding one U.S. soldier and sparking a firefight that lasted for an hour.

The wounded U.S. soldier was shot in the arm at an airfield in the eastern Afghan town of Khost today, Pentagon spokeswoman Victoria Clarke said.

He was in stable condition and coalition troops were conducting a search of the area.

U.S. troops called in an AC-130 gunship to help repel the attacking al Qaeda and Taliban fighters. A B-1 bomber dropped illumination rounds in the area.

Exploring the region after the shootout, U.S. forces found spent shells and blood, but no enemy fighters.

The skirmish came two days after the end of Operation Anaconda, the largest ground offensive in the Afghan war, which was also waged in eastern Afghanistan, close to the border with Pakistan.

Anaconda an ‘Unqualified Success’

On Tuesday, the U.S. military was on the defensive over its declaration that Operation Anaconda was an "absolute and unqualified success."

Although Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld had said enemy fighters would have to "surrender or die," allied Afghan commanders have suggested that many escaped to Pakistan, and questioned U.S. military claims that hundreds of al Qaeda and Taliban were killed.

"Only 50 to 60 were killed. Most of them escaped," an aide to Afghan Defense Minister Mohammad Fahim told Reuters.

But Maj. Gen. Frank Hagenbeck, commander of coalition troops in Afghanistan, said the U.S.-led operation in the Shah-e-Kot region in eastern Afghanistan had dealt a "body blow" to al Qaeda and Taliban fighters.

"Escaped? Of course, some people got out of Shah-e-Kot. But I take exception to any supposition that large numbers escaped," he said. "We destroyed hundreds of al Qaeda's most experienced fighters and terrorists. We destroyed their base of terrorist operations and we eliminated their sanctuary."

Hard Landing

In other developments …

  A number of U.S. soldiers were injured Tuesday when their helicopter made a hard landing in southern Afghanistan. It was not due to enemy fire, according to Reuters.

  Citing Bush administration officials, The Associated Press reported that authorities in Sudan have detained a suspected al Qaeda official and questioned him about the plot to blow up Los Angeles International Airport during the millennium celebrations and the attack on the USS Cole in a port in Yemen.

 
 

2 posted on 03/20/2002 10:06:56 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro
Sgt. Gary Gordon
4 posted on 03/20/2002 10:10:08 AM PST by Dog
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To: 1Old Pro
Al Qaeda Had Mogadishu G.I.-Hero's Property
NewsMax | 03/20/2002 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff
5 posted on 03/20/2002 10:10:38 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: 1Old Pro
A little more of "The Clinton Legacy".
6 posted on 03/20/2002 10:13:31 AM PST by fella
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I always thought Al Queda was involved in Somalia. I was there before things got bad, in the late 80's, and the word was that all the guns were coming from non-governmental sources in Saudi Arabia. Nobody knew what that meant back then. Now we all know.

When the old WWII leftover rifles started getting replaced with shiny new AK47's, I knew it was time to get out of Mogadishu. Six months later, all He!! broke loose.

7 posted on 03/20/2002 10:16:21 AM PST by gridlock
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To: 1Old Pro
I saw Black Hawk Down, and the one scene that just got to me was when Gordon and Shughart volunteered, were told the odds, and still went it.
8 posted on 03/20/2002 10:19:31 AM PST by hchutch
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To: fella
A little more of "The Clinton Legacy".

No kidding, Klintoon let this cancer grow and it cost us 3,000 lives and counting.

9 posted on 03/20/2002 10:20:33 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: hchutch
I saw Black Hawk Down, and the one scene that just got to me was when Gordon and Shughart volunteered, were told the odds, and still went it.

The odds should have been better, but it was Clintoon and Warren Christopher who let this happen and it grew into the WTC attacks.

10 posted on 03/20/2002 10:22:00 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro
Exploring the region after the shootout, U.S. forces found spent shells and blood, but no enemy fighters.

I'm beginning to wonder if someone will someday find a "mass grave" containing all these so-called warriors -- and, of course, it will be taken as proof that we were only pretending to fight in Afghanistan, while secretly committing "mass genocide." Of course, by that time we might all be living in an Islamic world state. </bitter sarcasm

11 posted on 03/20/2002 10:23:58 AM PST by browardchad
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To: Dog
I read the circumstances of his death... Unbelievable... I hope that, when the time comes, I have half the brass he did...

FReegards,

12 posted on 03/20/2002 10:24:21 AM PST by Capitalist Eric
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To: Dog
To: ALL -- never forget these men

Killed on Oct. 3 and 4, 1993
With posthumous awards.

Sgt. First Class Randy Shughart, a Delta soldier killed defending the crew of Super 64, the Medal of Honor.

Master Sgt. Gary Gordon, a Delta soldier who was killed after jumping in to defend the crew of Super 64, the Medal of Honor.

CWO Cliff Wolcott, pilot of Super 61, Distinguished Flying Cross, Bronze Star and the Air Medal with Valor Device.

CWO Donovan Briley, copilot of Super 61, Distinguished Flying Cross, Bronze Star and Air Medal with Valor Device.

Staff Sgt. William Cleveland, a crew chief on Super 64 Silver Star, Bronze Star and Air Medal with Valor Device.

Staff Sgt. Thomas Field, a crew chief on Super 64, Silver Star, Bronze Star and Air Medal with Valor Device.

CWO Raymond Frank, copilot of Super 64, Silver Star, Air Medal with Valor Device.

Staff Sgt. Daniel Busch, who crashed on Super 61 and was killed defending the downed crew, the Silver Star.

Sgt. Cornell Houston, who was killed fighting on the rescue convoy, the Bronze Star with Valor Device.

Sgt. Casey Joyce, who was killed on the Lost Convoy, the Bronze Star with Valor Device.

Spec. James Cavaco, who was killed on the Lost Convoy, the Bronze Star with Valor Device.

Cpl. Jamie Smith, who bled to death with the pinned-down force around crash site one, the Bronze Star with Valor Device.

Sgt. Dominick Pilla, who was killed on the convoy rescuing Pfc. Todd Blackburn, the Bronze Star with Valor Device.

Pfc. Richard Kowalewski, who was killed on the Lost Convoy, the Bronze Star with Valor Device.

Sgt. Lorenzo Ruiz, who was killed on the Lost Convoy, the Bronze Star with Valor Device.

Sgt. First Class Earl Fillmore, Delta soldier killed moving to the first crash site.

Pfc. James Martin, who was killed on the rescue convoy.

Master Sgt. Tim "Griz" Martin a Delta soldier killed on the Lost Convoy.

13 posted on 03/20/2002 10:26:13 AM PST by doug from upland
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To: hchutch
"I saw Black Hawk Down, and the one scene that just got to me was when Gordon and Shughart volunteered, were told the odds, and still went it."

Agreed. Bravery in its truest form.

14 posted on 03/20/2002 10:27:13 AM PST by The G Man
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To: 1Old Pro
I've never forgiven Clinton and Aspin for throwing those troops into the mess without support. The fact we had to lose brave men like Gordon and Shughart only deepened my anger.
15 posted on 03/20/2002 10:28:06 AM PST by hchutch
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To: Dog
I think we should put it right here in the thread:

"Without a doubt, I owe my life to these two men and their bravery." CW3 Mike Durant

Master Sergeant Gordon, United States Army, distinguished himself by actions above and beyond the call of duty on 3 October 1993, while serving as Sniper Team Leader, United States Army Special Operations Command with Task Force Ranger in Mogadishu, Somalia.

Master Sergeant Gordon's sniper team provided precision fires from the lead helicopter during an assault and at two helicopter crash sites, while subjected to intense automatic weapons and rocket propelled grenade fires. When Master Sergeant Gordon learned that ground forces were not immediately available to secure the second crash site, he and another sniper unhesitatingly volunteered to be inserted to protect the four critically wounded personnel, despite being well aware of the growing number of enemy personnel closing in on the site.

After his third request to be inserted, Master Sergeant Gordon received permission to perform his volunteer mission. When debris and enemy ground fires at the site caused them to abort the first attempt, Master Sergeant Gordon was inserted one hundred meters south of the crash site. Equipped with only his sniper rifle and a pistol, Master Sergeant Gordon and his fellow sniper, while under intense small arms fire from the enemy, fought their way through a dense maze of shanties and shacks to reach the critically injured crew members. Master Sergeant Gordon immediately pulled the pilot and the other crew members from the aircraft, establishing a perimeter which placed him and his fellow sniper in the most vulnerable position.

Master Sergeant Gordon used his long range rifle and side arm to kill an undetermined number of attackers until he depleted his ammunition. Master Sergeant Gordon then went back to the wreckage, recovering some of the crew's weapons and ammunition. Despite the fact that he was critically low on ammunition, he provided some of it to the dazed pilot and then radioed for help.

Master Sergeant Gordon continued to travel the perimeter, protecting the downed crew. After his team member was fatally wounded and his own rifle ammunition exhausted, Master Sergeant Gordon returned to the wreckage, recovering a rifle with the last five rounds of ammunition and gave it to the pilot with the words, "good luck." Then, armed only with his pistol, Master Sergeant Gordon continued to fight until he was fatally wounded. His actions saved the pilot's life.

Master Sergeant Gordon's extraordinary heroism and devotion to duty were in keeping with the highest standards of military service and reflect great credit upon, his unit and the United States Army.

17 posted on 03/20/2002 10:39:14 AM PST by Henchster
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To: hchutch
Aspin

That's the name I forgot. I believe he prevented resupply in Somalia....tanks etc.

18 posted on 03/20/2002 10:40:28 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Dog
I forgot to thank you for the excellent link.

It just burns my heart to think that we lost fine men like these because Clinton was unwilling to "Allocate Assets" because he needed to save the military budget for his massive family and friends vacation airlifts to India, Africa, etc., etc.

19 posted on 03/20/2002 10:42:50 AM PST by Henchster
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To: hchutch
The fact we had to lose brave men like Gordon and Shughart only deepened my anger.

Mine as well!

A new petition has been submitted by William Mark Patterson, wmp920@msn.com. The petition title is: Petition to support and commend American troops who fought in Somalia. The petition URL is http://www.PetitionOnline.com/USHEROES/petition.html The petition is directed to United States Senators and Representatives. The start date is 2002.0311. The end date is 2003.0311.

20 posted on 03/20/2002 10:46:08 AM PST by justacivilian
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To: gridlock
I always thought Al Queda was involved in Somalia. I was there before things got bad, in the late 80's, and the word was that all the guns were coming from non-governmental sources in Saudi Arabia. Nobody knew what that meant back then. Now we all know.

I believe OBL bragged about his Somalia involvement on one of his many videos.

When I heard this story over the lunch hour, I got the sick chills.

21 posted on 03/20/2002 10:49:23 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: 1Old Pro
Possible Al Qaeda-Somalia Link Found in Afghan Cave
March 20, 2002 02:47 PM ET
 

By Charles Aldinger

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - In a possible long-range link to al Qaeda, U.S. troops searching an icy Afghan cave this week found a global positioning receiver taken from a decorated U.S. soldier killed in Somalia in 1993, the Pentagon said on Wednesday.

The name of Master Sgt. Gary Gordon, one of 18 Army special forces troops killed in a firefight with rebels in Mogadishu nine years ago, was found on both the satellite receiver and a pouch that it was in, defense officials told reporters.

Pentagon officials have long suspected that the deaths of the Americans in Somalia, detailed in the recent movie "Black Hawk Down", was planned by supporters of fugitive al Qaeda guerrilla leader Osama bin Laden.

Gordon, of Lincoln, Maine, was one of two U.S. soldiers posthumously awarded the Medal of Honor -- the nation's highest military award -- after the Mogadishu action. He was 33 when he died.

Air Force Brig. Gen. John Rosa told reporters at a Pentagon briefing that the name "G. Gordon" was on the hand-held global positioning device, which allows the person holding it to determine his exact position within yards.

The device was found in a cave high in Afghanistan's eastern mountains near Gardez, where U.S.-led forces this month attacked what were believed to be hundreds of regrouping al Qaeda and Taliban fighters in the 5-month-old Afghan war.

"That's a good question -- one we've been doing some thought about," Rosa replied when asked if the device could establish a link between al Qaeda in Somalia and in Afghanistan.

AN OBVIOUS TIE?

"We've said all along that we suspected Al Qaeda of being a worldwide network," he said. "In fact, this piece we currently think originated from Somalia will obviously tie -- could obviously tie -- al Qaeda to Somalia."

But he also said that the device could have been stolen in Somalia, sold on the black market and then somehow ended up in Afghanistan, where thousands of anti-Western al Qaeda fighters were trained in guerrilla camps.

Rosa, a senior operations officer on the U.S. military's Joint Staff, said the receiver was a "civilianized" version of such devices that are now commonly carried by U.S. troops.

On Oct. 3, 1993, when Gordon was killed, the military did not have many such devices. But those used at the time by hunters and boaters to determine their positions were often bought by American troops.

"Back in '93, the units were a little bit bigger and more cumbersome," the general said.

"And I remember a lot of our special forces folks would buy the off-the-shelf ones, the small ones."

He said he thought the device found in Afghanistan was turned on but did not know if it was working.

"It would help in command-and-control," Rosa said. "It gives your exact elevation and location. So for command and control, it would be able to help them."

Rosa and Pentagon spokeswoman Victoria Clarke said that Gordon's family had been notified that the device was found.

Gordon and Army Sgt. First Class Randall Shughart, 35, of Lincoln, Nebraska, were posthumously awarded the Medal of Honor for bravery in connection with the Mogadishu action, one of the worst military incidents involving U.S. troops since the Vietnam War.


22 posted on 03/20/2002 10:55:30 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: squantos
Have you seen this yet?
23 posted on 03/20/2002 10:56:48 AM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
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To: squantos
Have you seen this yet?
24 posted on 03/20/2002 11:01:26 AM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
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To: 1Old Pro
No kidding, Klintoon let this cancer grow and it cost us 3,000 lives and counting.

And will continue to grow.

25 posted on 03/20/2002 11:02:33 AM PST by cardinal4
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
This GPS unit was not useful to them. It was a trophy.

You could buy a superior unit today in any sporting goods store for a couple hundred dollars. The reason Al Qaeda had this unit is because it had personal significance, as a war trophy.

I hope the person who had this unit in the cave died slow and hard.

26 posted on 03/20/2002 11:13:19 AM PST by gridlock
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To: All
FNC just reported that the unit did not belong to that "Gary Gordon" because the manufacturer says it was made in 1998
27 posted on 03/20/2002 11:46:46 AM PST by Rodney Dangerfield
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To: gridlock
I was there Aug 93 to Dec 93...no doubt now that there were major players in theater...I worked out in the same gym as a staff major from G2 who gave me little "tidbits" of intel, (not real time stuff, I don't think) just to pull my chain, but right before we rotated in he told me that it wasn't just "kids making their bones" over there...TFR arrived a couple of weeks after my unit did, and left a month and a half before we got back (Christmas day, by the way)...one of the greatest disappointments of my career was finally realizing that we weren't going to finish up that mess...it still pisses me off...
28 posted on 03/20/2002 11:47:40 AM PST by nicko
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To: 1Old Pro
"No kidding, Klintoon let this cancer grow and it cost us 3,000 lives and counting."

We need to remember to count the lives of the people working at and near the WTC who probably will contract many horrible lung diseases from breathing the air on and after September 11th.

Unfortunatly, I believe there will be many more innocent victim's of September 11th in the near and distant future.

29 posted on 03/20/2002 11:48:10 AM PST by wndycndy
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To: 1Old Pro
Army Master Sgt. Gary Gordon demonstrated the best of American bravery.

His sacrifice was only necessary because traitor Clinton* removed the Marines and our Ambassador and placed our forces under the UN with attendant mission creep, ridiculous rules of engagement and inadequate support.

[*Devoted eight years to degrading readiness, morale, equipment, funding, training, supply of U.S. military; while enhancing in every conceivable way the military capability of the Peoples Liberation Army.]

The dots connect themselves: The GPS unit disappeared in Mogadishu and reappeared in Afghanistan--Osama bin Laden announced his own involvement in both Mogadishu and 911. The team leader of 911 Atta was observed meeting with Iraqi intel. Cheney meets with Arafat who is armed by Iran with Saudi bankrolling; Iran hosts madrasahs, while Iraq pays martyrs' families bounties. Separate blossoms above ground arise from the same buried vine. Rip it up and burn it.

Aspin did his best service to the country by dying.

30 posted on 03/20/2002 11:50:00 AM PST by PhilDragoo
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To: Rodney Dangerfield
Thanks for the update. Oh well, it was an interesting story for a few hours.
31 posted on 03/20/2002 11:50:44 AM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: wallace212
Black Hawk Ping
32 posted on 03/20/2002 12:11:41 PM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Let me get this straight...under Clinton-Gore our Delta Force warriors were forced into buying GPS units on the open market???? What the heck????
33 posted on 03/20/2002 12:40:25 PM PST by bonesmccoy
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To: bonesmccoy
I'm going to question your ability to read. It clearly said some prefered a civilian version because of it's size.. meaning that one was issued to them but if they didn't like it some of them due to PREFERENCE choose to buy a civilian one.. now you can call into question why the military didn't purchase the favored one.. but then again it clearly said SOME PREFERED them.. not all... and you don't know if the military one was more accurate or what have you... had enough beer?
34 posted on 03/20/2002 1:01:41 PM PST by Almondjoy
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To: 1Old Pro
PLEASE DO NOT FORGET that sorry a$$H*lE LES ASPIN OF WISCONSIN FOR HIS ROLE IN THE SOMALIAN MURDER OF OUR BRAVE SOLDIERS!

May he continue to burn in h__ for his inaction to supply the necessary vehicles for our soldier's defence!!!

35 posted on 03/20/2002 1:11:02 PM PST by crazykatz
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To: hchutch
I try to place myself in their shoes, I just can't imagine what it was like. They weren't brainwashed islamic simians running absurdly into enemy fire. They new very well that they were going to die or be tortured. However, they also knew how important it was for WO Durant not to die alone. They not only accomplished what they set out to do, but they surpassed their goal by saving the life of WO Durant.
36 posted on 03/20/2002 1:14:38 PM PST by Ajnin
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To: My Favorite Headache
I didn't think I could hate the Toon any more..... I was wrong. The day they arrest him for his treason, I hope a few Delta guys get to be part of the dynamic entry team...hehe.
37 posted on 03/20/2002 1:18:44 PM PST by WALLACE212
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To: gridlock
Isn't is fabulous that the State Dept flooded the U.S. with Somalian refugees? I hear that Minneapolis-St.Paul has been taken over by Somalian refugees. Also, they double-dip, they leech social services and refugee hand-outs here, then go across the border and apply for asylum in Canada, and get money from both countries. Also, Newsflash: the Afghan refugees have already started to arrive - don't worry though, just women and small children. Those children probably won't grow up to be taught that the evil infidels bombed their birthplace. They probably won't be taught to hate the US. And their mothers probably won't petition to get their husbands here as soon as they can. It's fascinating that no media has reported the fact that planeloads of afghans are being dispersed throught the US. Yeah, it shouldn't be hard to wipe out Al Queda here at home...
38 posted on 03/20/2002 1:39:03 PM PST by fredtaps
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To: 1Old Pro
Pentagon backs off after suggesting new evidence of link between Somalia and al-Qaida -AP Breaking News
ROBERT BURNS, AP Military Writer
(03-20) 14:27 PST WASHINGTON (AP) -- It sounded sinister at first. The Pentagon announced new evidence of a possible link between the al-Qaida terrorist network and Somalia. Within minutes the story began to unravel. The Pentagon...
39 posted on 03/20/2002 1:39:43 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Henchster
It just burns my heart to think that we lost fine men like these because Clinton was unwilling to "Allocate Assets" because

...the tanks were needed in Waco.

40 posted on 03/20/2002 1:41:13 PM PST by Freee-dame
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To: 1Old Pro
>>>Aspin<<<
>>>That's the name I forgot. I believe he prevented resupply in Somalia....tanks etc.<<<

That would be Les Aspin - Clinton's first Sec'ty of Defense. To believe that he carried the same title as Don Rumsfeld streches credulity!!

I know that one should never speak ill of the dead - Aspin died of a heart attack in about 1995 or so - but the guy wasn't fit to carry Rumsfeld's toilet paper! He was an indecisive, think tank type that had absolutely no rapport with the troops he was suppose to lead.

His lack of tactical experience and continual caving to the "this is a country building/peace keeping mission so don't upset the natives with big mean ol' tanks" types in the Clinton admin. eventually got 18 fine guys killed. This was after repeated requests by local commanders for armor - Aspin vetoed shippment!

It would only be poetic justice if the heart-attack that killed him was the result of self induced stress over his lack of vision.

42 posted on 03/20/2002 4:15:21 PM PST by HardStarboard
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To: HardStarboard
I think that if we simply put the people to death of every country involved with Al-Quaeda our problems would be over. The bible talks of putting entire nations to the sword, and so does the Quran. I say we start abiding by their rules, and sytematically eliminate our threats, and future enemies through superior firepower. It's an inevitability that we will eventually be attacked again by one of these skunk-F-ing nations. Why should we let it happen again?
43 posted on 03/20/2002 4:22:49 PM PST by MadRobotArtist
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To: MadRobotArtist
Thanks for posting the names of those brave heroes who fought and died in Somalia. God bless 'em.
44 posted on 03/20/2002 5:41:16 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: Ciexyz
I wish I could take credit, but I didn't do that post. That was someone else. Wish I had. Thank them, not me. God bless those fallen for those of us who didn't have to sacrifice. God keep those valiant men close and dear as they sacrificed themselves with honor.
45 posted on 03/20/2002 8:50:59 PM PST by MadRobotArtist
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To: big ern
Wow........... thanks for the bump Ern. Stay Safe !
46 posted on 03/20/2002 9:34:06 PM PST by Squantos
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To: I_Had_Enough
If they wanted to drag Somalia into the war... why did they later backtrack about the GPS device? Considering they control all of the information, why would they admit they were wrong (if they were attempting to deceive from the very beginning)?
48 posted on 03/20/2002 10:27:40 PM PST by xm177e2
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To: I_Had_Enough
If they were setting it up on purpose, as a conspiracy, don't you think they would have CLAIMED to have found the GPS product that DID exist at the time we went into Somalia?
50 posted on 03/20/2002 10:48:51 PM PST by xm177e2
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