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Two million Mexicans will emigrate to the US
Univision Online ^ | 3-20-2002 | Staff

Posted on 03/20/2002 1:26:34 PM PST by FreedomSurge

MÉXICO CITY.- the National Council of Population (Conapo) predicts that during Vicente Fox’s 6 year term, around two million Mexicans will emigrate to American soil; a number that is equivalent to the emigration of the total population of the Mexican states of Baja California Sur, Campeche and Colima.

Family networks and interconnections

Rodolfo Tuirán, president of Conapo, in statements published in El Universal, said that the population of Mexicans (by birth or by heritage) that lives in the US comes to 23 million, of which three million are there without documents.

Tuirán says that these numbers represent eight percent of the population of the US and constitutes a key piece of the economic engine of that country, in addition, they do not displace American laborers and what’s more, they generate higher profitability for businesses by means of being a source of cheap manual labor; and most importantly “legal or illegal ", all the Mexicans pay taxes just like the other citizens of US ".

According to the study “The Mexico to United States Immigration – the best economic scenario” published by Conapo, by 2005 there will be an annual emigration of 380 thousand Mexicans to the US. Besides being necessary; the migratory phenomenon, " by its own characteristics, has acquired a strong momentum that is very difficult to stop ".

Francisco Alba Hernandez, researcher for the School of Mexico (Colmex), said to El Univesal that because of the dynamics that has been generated, the migratory phenomenon " is going to continue to last some 10 or 15 years because radical change in the near term is not anticipated ".

Meanwhile, Mónica Vera, researcher for the Center for North American Research (CISAN) of the Independent National University of Mexico (UNAM), emphasizes that migration has maintained constant flows throughout the years because Mexicans have managed to create networks and non-legal labor markets, through the multiplicity of contacts that they have established in both nations.

Nevertheless the experts claim that most migration revolves around networks of relatives and countrymen, which have been generated on both sides of the border. Currently out of 2,433 municipalities that make up the country only 93, claim to not have had anyone emigrate to the United States according to last population census in 2000

Mexican presence on the border

What stands out from the numbers is that 60 percent of the Hispanic population in the US is of Mexican origin.

The Mexican population residing in US territories can be divided into three groups: 8.5 million are immigrants, seven million people were born in the US of Mexican parents and, finally the rest, who were born in the US of Mexican heritage.

According to studies made by the population censuses, 90 percent of the Mexican population resides in 12 states of the US: in California 41 percent, Texas 25 percent, Illinois 6 percent, Arizona 5 percent, Colorado, Florida, New Mexico and Washington tie with two percent each and, Nevada, Georgia, New York and Carolina of the North with one percent each.

In addition the revenue from remittances constitute the third largest currency source for Mexico, only after oil and manufacturing exports, according to data published by the Bank of Mexico.


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1 posted on 03/20/2002 1:26:34 PM PST by FreedomSurge
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To: FreedomSurge
Arizona 5%? I don't think so. I think it is much, much more!
2 posted on 03/20/2002 1:29:31 PM PST by hsmomx3
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To: FreedomSurge
Two million Mexicans will emigrate to the US

What? Do they all want to cut my grass too?

3 posted on 03/20/2002 1:31:07 PM PST by isthisnickcool
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To: FreedomSurge
Hmmmmm.... we're supposed to believe that illegal Mexicans work cheap, pay U.S. taxes, and send the rest of their money back to Mexico.
I guess they don't need any money to live on.
4 posted on 03/20/2002 1:33:03 PM PST by Willie Green
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To: Fitz; Dakmar; wku man; Ohioan; boris; Dialup Llama; mrustow
the translation is mine
5 posted on 03/20/2002 1:34:21 PM PST by FreedomSurge
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To: isthisnickcool
National Council of Population (Conapo) predicts that during Vicente Fox’s 6 year term, around two million Mexicans will emigrate to American soil;

Oh whats the big deal. Its just like adding another major city worth of people, about the size of Chicago.

6 posted on 03/20/2002 1:35:11 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: FreedomSurge
Its all Clinton's fault. He did it.
7 posted on 03/20/2002 1:36:07 PM PST by TexKat
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To: Uncle Bill; usadave; tancredo fan; Sabertooth, owl_eagle
ping
8 posted on 03/20/2002 1:36:09 PM PST by FreedomSurge
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To: FreedomSurge
Just imagine how colorful all our store fronts are going to be.
9 posted on 03/20/2002 1:39:28 PM PST by TexKat
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To: FreedomSurge
Now, was Vincente talking about legal or illegal emigration, or amnesty after legal but illegal immigration, or blanket amnesty after illegal and legal immigration?
10 posted on 03/20/2002 1:42:03 PM PST by let freedom sing
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To: FreedomSurge
Glad to hear all those Mexican gardeners, handymen, field workers, etc. are paying social security, federal, state, and local taxes. NOT!!!

Also glad to hear that those same workers and their families are not using our medical facilities and other social services.

One last thing. Glad to hear they are not sending hundreds of millions of US dollars out of our country.

11 posted on 03/20/2002 1:43:48 PM PST by CdMGuy
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To: FreedomSurge
the population of Mexicans (by birth or by heritage) that lives in the US comes to 23 million, of which three million are there without documents

More amnesty, please!
12 posted on 03/20/2002 1:44:05 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: FreedomSurge
Dos milliones mexicanos? Ay, que bueno para nosotros! Desde ahora en adelante, hablamos y escribimos solamente en espanol!!! {/sarcasmo]
13 posted on 03/20/2002 1:44:21 PM PST by Map Kernow
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To: Mercuria;sarcasm;dennisw;SpookBrat;MissAmericanPie;sneakypete;Warhawk42;Sabertooth;WRhine...

14 posted on 03/20/2002 1:52:28 PM PST by Brownie74
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To: FreedomSurge
I give up. I'm already a minority english speaker. I guess it's time to move to asia or something.
15 posted on 03/20/2002 1:59:07 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: CdMGuy
Glad to hear they are not sending hundreds of millions of US dollars out of our country.

Only an estimated 9 billion dollars last year. Now some major banks are accepting the Matriculas Consulares cards as ID and are allowing them to open up checking accounts to make it easier for them to send money back to Mexico.

That is 9 billion dollars out of our economy. Go figure!!

16 posted on 03/20/2002 2:00:26 PM PST by Brownie74
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To: let freedom sing
"Now, was Vincente talking about legal or illegal emigration, or amnesty after legal but illegal immigration, or blanket amnesty after illegal and legal immigration?"

Don't you know, there is no such thing as an illegal immigrant. No human being is illegal.

  1. America is a nation of immigrants
  2. You are either an immigrant or a decendant of immigrants
  3. Therefore you have no right to tell anyone from any other country not to come take up residence here.

17 posted on 03/20/2002 2:03:15 PM PST by FreedomSurge
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To: Brownie74
Didn't you read the part about how our undocumented friends:

constitutes a key piece of the economic engine of that country, in addition, they do not displace American laborers and what’s more, they generate higher profitability for businesses by means of being a source of cheap manual labor; and most importantly “legal or illegal ", all the Mexicans pay taxes just like the other citizens of US ".

18 posted on 03/20/2002 2:06:15 PM PST by FreedomSurge
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To: Brownie74
What kind of country is proud of the fact that most of its citizens don't want to live there?
19 posted on 03/20/2002 2:13:17 PM PST by Regulator
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To: FreedomSurge
If you believe that, you are the type of person that would get excited over the prize in a box of Cracker Jacks.
20 posted on 03/20/2002 2:13:45 PM PST by Brownie74
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To: Brownie74
"If you believe that, you are the type of person that would get excited over the prize in a box of Cracker Jacks."

Actually I do not believe that at all but I do believe this article is representative of the official and unofficial Mexican beliefs.

21 posted on 03/20/2002 2:16:14 PM PST by FreedomSurge
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To: Regulator
"What kind of country is proud of the fact that most of its citizens don't want to live there?"

A country that has a severe inferiority complex vis a vi its northern neighbor.

Because of that, there is a compelling need to take credit for the economic sucess north of the border whether true or not.

22 posted on 03/20/2002 2:18:36 PM PST by FreedomSurge
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To: hsmomx3
This article is pure crap.
23 posted on 03/20/2002 2:23:22 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: FreedomSurge
I do believe this article is representative of the official and unofficial Mexican beliefs.

I could care less what their beliefs are if they are illegal. Officially or unofficially!!

24 posted on 03/20/2002 2:25:56 PM PST by Brownie74
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To: FreedomSurge
A country that has a severe inferiority complex vis a vi its northern neighbor.

Because of that, there is a compelling need to take credit for the economic sucess north of the border whether true or not.

Thanks for this little jewel. I am going to have to save and enlarge this and frame it.

25 posted on 03/20/2002 2:29:41 PM PST by Brownie74
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To: FreedomSurge
True. That is the motivating concept - "we did it". Would it be tawdry of me to point out that 80% of the Mexicans in this country came here after 1975, and that in 1975, the U.S. was already the acknowledged leader of the world, without the help of los campesinos?

Nah. That would be mean. NEVER be mean. Ask King Jorge....

26 posted on 03/20/2002 2:31:32 PM PST by Regulator
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To: ALL
a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/650286/posts">Though the bill is aimed at illegal immigrants, Bush three times referred to legal immigrants as he promoted it

Bush lies about this bill and gets a pass from the liberal media because they know who these illegal immigrants will vote for once they become citizens of both the USA and Mexico.

27 posted on 03/20/2002 2:36:49 PM PST by RickyJ
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To: ALL
Though the bill is aimed at illegal immigrants, Bush three times referred to legal immigrants as he promoted it

Bush lies about this bill and gets a pass from the liberal media because they know who these illegal immigrants will vote for once they become citizens of both the USA and Mexico.

28 posted on 03/20/2002 2:37:23 PM PST by RickyJ
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To: Brownie74
Listen to the statements of Fox. When talking about the power of Mexico he always includes the economic power of the 23 million Mexicans in the US. Out of the 23 million only eight 15 million are US citizens.

The mexicans firmly believe that the growth of the US economy is based on the exploitation of the unskilled mexican laborer. That is how they justify coming over here illegally.

29 posted on 03/20/2002 2:37:28 PM PST by FreedomSurge
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To: Regulator
Third-world countries.
30 posted on 03/20/2002 2:38:38 PM PST by koba
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To: Brownie74
That is 9 billion dollars out of our economy. Go figure!!

They pump far more than that into the economy in terms of labor. And that is a minor disaster for the Mexican economy. The "23 million Mexicans" (I find it more than a little annoying that they're calling 13.5 million Americans "Mexican", but that's another story...) in the US are adding to our economy, not theirs. The $9 billion they get back is hardly compensation for the economic activity that stays north of the border.

32 posted on 03/20/2002 2:39:54 PM PST by Redcloak
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To: Redcloak
source

Because of their much lower education levels, Mexican immigrants earn significantly less than natives on average. This results in lower average tax payments and heavier use of means-tested programs. Based on estimates developed by the National Academy of Sciences for immigrants by age and education at arrival, the lifetime fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for the average adult Mexican immigrant is a negative $55,200.

33 posted on 03/20/2002 2:51:43 PM PST by sarcasm
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To: FreedomSurge
I went to Laredo, Texas, and Nuevo Laredo, Mexico, this past weekend. Except for sanitation and construction, there wasn't much distinction...although the food in Nuevo Laredo was better.
34 posted on 03/20/2002 2:55:15 PM PST by Young Rhino
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To: Brownie74
20%-25% of El Salvador lives here so why not the same for Mexico? File this one under "SHACKLED TO AN UNGRATEFUL CORPSE"

 

 

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36 posted on 03/20/2002 3:05:01 PM PST by dennisw
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To: isthisnickcool
What? Do they all want to cut my grass too?

O hell man, for less than minimum wage you can hire someone to scrape the gunk from under your toenails. I thank God everyday for illegal immigration, cause I like having gunk scraped cheap. I met some Mex illegal the other day who wanted to sell me stolen gasoline. I politely declined and wondered to myself how F***ed up a society is when folks are walking around offering discounts on hot fuel products.

37 posted on 03/20/2002 3:13:26 PM PST by Dakmar
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To: FreedomSurge
Mexico is a rich country with lots of natural resources controlled by a few people who don't give a whit about their fellow citizens. Why don't we make them take care of their own citizens? Why doesn't someone in this country make an issue of this since we certainly can't expect anyone in Mexico to do it.
38 posted on 03/20/2002 3:26:34 PM PST by Aria
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To: Brownie74
The military needs to be on the border, armed to the teeth, and ordered to halt the onslaught. Univision should be tossed off the air in the U.S. for encouraging an invasion and for sedition.
39 posted on 03/20/2002 3:33:16 PM PST by Tancredo Fan
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To: FreedomSurge
The mexicans firmly believe that the growth of the US economy is based on the exploitation of the unskilled mexican laborer.

Are you actually trying to tell me that people that can't even spell computer, or space shuttle, or nuclear weapons (much less work on or produce such items) believe this?

If that is the case, they need to move south instead of north.

40 posted on 03/20/2002 3:36:26 PM PST by Brownie74
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To: Young Rhino
What they are now demanding on the border isn't even minimum wage, they want a living wage --- it's crazy to believe these people come from Mexico to work for less than Americans to do the same job.

El Pasoans tell state of inequality in wages

Gary Scharrer
Austin Bureau
El Paso Times 03-19-02

AUSTIN - One way Texas can help lift the border out of chronic poverty is to pay higher wages for government construction projects in border counties, El Paso County Attorney Jose RodrÌguez and others told a state Senate subcommittee Monday.

The Senate Business and Commerce Committee is examining wage disparities that, for example, pay a carpenter $18.60 an hour for a government job in Austin, compared with $7.96 in El Paso and Laredo.

El Paso has gone into an "economic dive" during the past 50 years, the Rev. James Hall, pastor of St. Thomas Aquinas Church and co-chairman of the El Paso Interreligious Sponsoring Organization, told the committee. In 1950, the average El Pasoan earned $104 for every $100 on the national scale, Hall said, and today, the typical El Paso wage has slipped to $57 for every $100 nationally.

Two of every three jobs in El Paso pay less than $10 an hour, which means less than the minimum living wage, Hall said. It's imperative that the public sector lead the way and set a trend for higher wages and benefits, he said.

In an amendment to a bill during the last legislative session, state Sen. Eliot Shapleigh, D-El Paso, got Texas to require higher pay for state jobs in border counties based on a complex formula of wages for similar work elsewhere in Texas.

The new law has increased the payroll on state highway projects by 3.5 percent in border counties, resulting in a corresponding decrease in road construction, Thomas Bohuslav, director of construction for the Texas Department of Transportation, told the commission. The costs of school construction also will dramatically increase, a spokesman for the association of builders and contractors said.

Sen. Troy Fraser, R-Horseshoe Bay, suggested that Texas taxpayers could save a lot of money if the state simply repealed its prevailing wage law, which now sets minimum wages for government construction projects.

EPISO and its sister organizations have made "living wages" a top issue and are still upset with Gov. Rick Perry for vetoing legislation last year that would have required border-area school districts to pay living wages at school construction sites.

"Any candidate who says they are pro family has to be in favor of living wages," Hall said after the hearing. "We're going to make it an issue in the fall (election campaign)."

The country's four poorest metropolitan areas are on the Texas-Mexico border.

"The state must take steps to reverse the negative economic consequences of maintaining a wage rate system for state public works contracts that discriminates on the basis of regional boundaries and prevents segments of the state from sharing in economic prosperity," RodrÌguez told the committee. "In the end, the state pays for its misguided policy through higher public assistance funding to economically depressed communities."

The state last year, for example, funneled $2.1 billion to school districts in the 14 counties touching the border because of low value tax bases in those property poor communities. It cost the state $621,546,714 to help finance public education in El Paso's nine school districts last year.

Gary Scharrer may be reached at gscharrer@elpasotimes.com

41 posted on 03/20/2002 3:45:19 PM PST by FITZ
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To: dennisw
Thanks for the links. This ticks me off:

"Mexico has colluded with OPEC to keep oil off the world market to gouge the Americans who bailed out Mexico five years ago. So much for gratitude."

This only happened about a month ago. Not only do we bail them out (for some strange reason) but we have to support their people that are here in America illegally.

With friends like this, who needs enemys.

42 posted on 03/20/2002 3:46:46 PM PST by Brownie74
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To: Brownie74
"Are you actually trying to tell me that people that can't even spell computer, or space shuttle, or nuclear weapons (much less work on or produce such items) believe this?"

Yes. I find the question not being posed by the opponents of unlimited illegal immigration is How do the Mexicans justify breaking the law by sneaking into the US?

The justification is threefold:

  1. America is a nation of immigrants and as such no American has the right to prevent anyone from coming across the border for any reason.
  2. The powerful growth of the 80's and 90's was due in great part to the US taking advantage of cheap Mexican labor. As the Mexicans have given more to the US than the pobre worker has taken then no American has the right to tell any Mexican to stay home.
  3. The richest parts of America were stolen from Mexico, so Mexicans have a right to come to America whenever they choose.

43 posted on 03/20/2002 3:52:02 PM PST by FreedomSurge
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To: FreedomSurge
Bye Bye Bushie
44 posted on 03/20/2002 3:55:30 PM PST by Osinski
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To: Map Kernow
Por cierto.
45 posted on 03/20/2002 4:00:39 PM PST by willyone
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To: Tancredo Fan
The only reason Bush would put the military on the border would be to hand out food stamps, bus passes, and directions to the nearest welfare office.
46 posted on 03/20/2002 4:04:04 PM PST by Brownie74
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To: FreedomSurge
You are correct. just today there was a editorial in the San Diego State Daily Aztec written by a Meacha member saying the same thing. That they built everything while we did nothing. Funny thing I have lived in So.Cal since 70 and during the seventies you hardly ever saw a Mexican. Must have been magic how they accomplished all these great works with no money and not even being here.
47 posted on 03/20/2002 4:06:12 PM PST by willyone
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To: Brownie74
There's a slight clerical error here. The 2 (TWO) Million refers to last week.

Anyone who believes government numbers on the number of illegals or the number of illegal residents is just plain silly.

48 posted on 03/20/2002 4:07:54 PM PST by Kenny Bunk
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To: FreedomSurge
The richest parts of America were stolen from Mexico, so Mexicans have a right to come to America whenever they choose

Well, you'all have convinced me. Let's just add Mexico to the U.S. Makes a good buffer! Then all that Yankee money sent south won't ACTUALLY be going out of the country. Problem solved!

49 posted on 03/20/2002 4:15:04 PM PST by toddst
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To: FreedomSurge

50 posted on 03/20/2002 4:17:34 PM PST by AAABEST
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