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State Sponsored Terrorism? (OKC Bombing and 9/11/02 Attack Suspects Connected by FBI)
Fox News ^ | March 20, 2002 | John Gibson

Posted on 03/21/2002 1:17:24 PM PST by OKCSubmariner

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:32:57 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

I attended the execution of Tim McVeigh and I had no doubt it was the right thing to do

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: 911attacks; okcbombing
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I have added editorial comments for further clarification and information to the following paragraph from the article:

"An Iraqi man[Al Hussain Hussaini]identified by a [former KFORTV] reporter in Oklahoma City as a likely suspect [in the OKC Bombing] is now reportedly on the FBI's terror watch list, being sought by the very government agency that insisted at McVeigh's trial that there was no John Doe no. 2, that it was all a mistake."

Fox News has had a former CIA and State Deparment Counter Terrorsim official Larry C. Johnson on twice this week to discuss the OKC bombing connection to Iraq. Johnson was on Monday's Fox "News and Friends" and on John Gibson's "The Big Story" on Tuesday of this week.

Larry Johnson told Fox that the evidence he has seen convinces him that Iraq helped McVeigh do the OKC bombing and that one of the John Does involved was the Iraqi Al Hussain Hussaini identified by KFORTV as a suspect in 1995.

On October 23, 2001, I posted a story by Paul Bedard editor of US News and World Report that reported that top Pentagon officials had told Bedard that McVeigh worked for Iraq and that the FBI had kept this from the Pentagon.

David Schippers, the legal counsel for the House managers during the impeachment proceedings, has recently told the Jim Quinn radio program in Pittsburgh that Hussaini is now on the FBI terror watch list. Schippers said that Hussaini was a baggage handler at Boston's Logan airport around the time of the 9/11 attacks and has disappeared. It appears the FBI wants to question Hussaini about the OKC bombing and the 9/11 attacks.

Schippers also stated that Arab American FBI agents had impeded FBI tracking 9/11 hijacker pilots (already known to the FBI) shortly before the 9/11 attacks. The loyalty of some of these agents is now being brought into question. This a very significant revelation in view of the fact that Arab American FBI agents (speaking arabic languages) were brought into the OKC bombing investigation early at a location where McVeigh was seen with middle eastern men in OKC and these Arab American FBI agents may also have helped impede or cover up the Middle East connection to the OKC bombing.

In early January 1999 I went to the Senate Intelligence Committee to get their help in having the FBI recieve evidence of the Iraqi connection to the OKC bombing from KFORTV reporters. The FBI and US Prosecutor Sean Connelly had refused up until that time to receive the evidence.

When I presented to the Senate Intelligence committee what the evidence was (22 sworn affadavits), the intelligence committee instructed me to tell the former KFORTV reporter to call the FBI in OKC directly and tell them that the intelligence committee wanted the FBI to receive the evidence immediately and to notify the intelligence committee if the FBI still refused. As a result I passed along the intelligence committee's instructions to the former KFORTV reporter who then contacted and arranged to meet with FBI agent Dan Vogel on January 29, 1999 with the reporter's spouse and attorney. Vogel received the evidence from the reporter. But AG Ashcroft and the FBI has blocked Vogel (now retired) from testifying about the evidence at the Nichols state trial in Oklahoma. So far Vogel has also been muzzled from speaking in any detail to the press and to Congress.

During the turn over of the evidence, Vogel indicated that the FBI was tracking individuals in Dallas who may have had a connection to the OKC bombing. This would include Hamas and AlQaeda cell members in Dallas that Dallas Special Agent in Charge (SAC) Danny Defenbaugh had been tracking since 1998. Defenbaugh was also the OKC Bomb Task Force Inspector reprimanded by the DOJ for not coming forward sooner with mispalced FBI evidence on the OKC bombing (including 3 FBI 302 interview reports withheld but later found in Defenbaugh's Dallas office done for three Pakistani suspects arrested on April 19, 1995 in connection with the OKC bombing, Iraq and with the 1993 World Trade Center bombing).

1 posted on 03/21/2002 1:17:24 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: OKCSubmariner
Typo error found in the title for this article. The Title should read :

"State Sponsored Terrorism? (OKC Bombing and 9/11/01 Attack Suspects Connected by FBI)"

The date 9/11/01 was corrected.

2 posted on 03/21/2002 1:21:33 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: glorygirl,lawdog,archy,Uncle Bill,golitely,honway,backhoe,STARWISE,Ronneil,Fred Mertz,bub,rwz,Wm
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3 posted on 03/21/2002 1:24:40 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: OKCSubmariner
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4 posted on 03/21/2002 1:30:18 PM PST by rit
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To: OKCSubmariner
Thank you for the flag and keeping us updated.
5 posted on 03/21/2002 1:33:47 PM PST by Prodigal Daughter
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To: OKCSubmariner
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6 posted on 03/21/2002 1:35:46 PM PST by PA Engineer
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To: OKCSubmariner
Let's never forget:

Clinton would never have been reelected without the OKC bombing.

7 posted on 03/21/2002 1:35:47 PM PST by hang 'em
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To: OKCSubmariner
Jimminey whillikers I understand the need for secrecy and all, but why are we covering up terror comitted by people we are supposed to be at war against? To dilute support for our own war effort? At some point the secrecy seems to become its own justification. At some point someone has to stand up and say, enough: "Al-Quaida has been bombing our emabassies, barracks, ships, planes, and buildings for a while now, and this is why we are gonna get 'em no matter what anyone else says."
8 posted on 03/21/2002 1:37:29 PM PST by eno_
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To: OKCSubmariner
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9 posted on 03/21/2002 1:40:57 PM PST by LiberteeBell
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To: OKCSubmariner
Shippers has been dogged in this investigation. I believe him when he connects John Doe #2 with Iraq.
10 posted on 03/21/2002 1:45:03 PM PST by Jethro Tull
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To: hang 'em
I don't think it's as simple as winning elections and taking bribes. I think he's a foreign agent---period.
11 posted on 03/21/2002 1:47:07 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: OKCSubmariner
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12 posted on 03/21/2002 1:55:39 PM PST by knighthawk
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13 posted on 03/21/2002 2:37:11 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: eno_
"but why are we covering up terror comitted by people we are supposed to be at war against? "

You've got your finger on it now. Don't let it slip away. That is exactly WHY they can't use the M.E. connections even in the remotest way with regards to OKCBomb. That's WHY the Feds have to keep the Videos disappeared.

Now, if you take it to just one other question ---"Why did they IMMEDIATELY (1-2 days) start the Total Coverup of M.E. involvement? Consider that there was government involvement, or at minimum, foreknowledge that it was going to happen.

And then the Big Question ---- Why?

15 posted on 03/21/2002 2:55:46 PM PST by rdavis84
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To: Conservative_Dr.Pepper_Drinker
"A good part of the world says America needs a good reason to attack Iraq — a better one than we've already put out there."

And the Next One will be a Biggie!

OKCBomb didn't work. My opinion is it didn't because the feds tried to get too much, or overkill, out of the Act. Bringing in the Militia/Radical Right Wing/Neo-Nazi element into it along with the M.E. Jihaders diluted/confused the issue. It would confuse the American Public as to WHO the Enemy was. So they settled on the Radical Right Wing on that one. I believe partly because several of the explosive charges failed. If they'd all gone off, not many would believe the dupes McViegh and Nichols could do that.

Now they've got their USA PATRIOT act under their belt, a nice sanitary little war going blasting crap out of the mountains in Afgan. and the next event should Cinch that Saddam was behind the WTC, and whatever goodie is coming.

The Groundwork is being laid right now.

16 posted on 03/21/2002 3:10:53 PM PST by rdavis84
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To: OKCSubmariner
Thank you for posting the very interesting update.
17 posted on 03/21/2002 4:17:03 PM PST by syriacus
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To: eno_
There are 3 Senators who have introduced a bill to investigate 9/11; where the breakdown in our government agencies was. I would be for this if it was done correctly, because our government failed us in its most important mission: to protect our country from attack by outsiders.

What concerns me is that the 3 Senators are McCain, Leiberman, and Torricelli ... YIKES!!

18 posted on 03/21/2002 5:48:01 PM PST by DLfromthedesert
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To: OKCSubmariner
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19 posted on 03/21/2002 6:01:17 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: rdavis84
The Groundwork is being laid right now.

With all due respect, ...

Oh, never mind. You know how I feel, most likely, so why say it? I can't stick around to respond to your response, anyway. Just passing through.

But I will say this: I think it's a crying shame that people throw all that "911-conspiracy" nonsense (I'm being nice because I like you) in with the OKC bombing. It does nothing but scare people away - people who would normally take a rational look at all the evidence of Iraqi/foreign/Sikh/Teg involvement in the 1995 bombing. If you guys wouldn't drag all that "911-Was-A-Humongo-Conspiracy-And-Dubya's-Out-To-Get-Us!!!" bull#@$t into the mix, the truth of the OKC bombing would sooner see the light of day.

Then again, maybe that's the point. Maybe there's a method to the madness.

Carry on with your nonsense. ;-)

20 posted on 03/21/2002 6:34:56 PM PST by Nita Nupress
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