Posted on 03/21/2002 5:46:21 PM PST by xm177e2
You betcha. I think this is just the start of a wave of terror across the world, all directed at the West & Western interests, primarily us--aka The Great Satan.
I have a good guess whose hand is cracking the whip (or providing the funding).
| But I raised it in the context, and I don't want to delay all of this, but I raised it in the context -- I came back from a conference on terrorism back in 1980. I was over in, not Berlin, I was in Bonn, and I went to a conference on terrorism and I spoke there, Henry Kissinger was there, Helmut Schmidt was there, and as I came out of the hotel I saw the hotel was surrounded by APCs, armored personnel carriers. And all the soldiers or policemen had automatic weapons. I looked at that and I said, I wonder, would any American city allow VIPs to be protected by virtual tanks in the street? And it had been just after a guy named Schleier, a banker, had been assassinated, stuffed in his trunk of a Mercedes car, so there was real tension over there, and there was some real protection underway. I said no, it will never happen in the United States. Then I said well wait a minute. What happens if the terrorists come to the United States and the bombs start going off, the killing starts here? Would we as the American people, say protect our liberties or protect our lives? We've never had to have that debate at this point. And so when you have an Oklahoma City bombing that's taken place, and you have others who may not be domestic but international, what will be the reaction of the American people? Will they say the government's responsibility is to protect us, and we say absolutely <licking chops>, but how do we do that? Do we do it through the local police? The National Guard? The Guard and Reserve? Or do we call upon the military in extremists to provide protection and to help with what they call consequence management? DefenseLink -- Cohen Breakfast Meeting with Reporters in Washington, D.C. (1/11/2001) |
It's all-human, all the time.
In October 1991, just before he was reappointed Soviet foreign minister, Eduard Shevardnadze suggested in the Soviet weekly New Times (issue number 40, 1991) that the United States share with the USSR the technology it had developed for the Strategic Defense Initiative, ostensibly for the purpose of improving "early warning of natural calamities" and other benign, "all-human" purposes. Shevardnadze wrote:We are no longer adversaries. We have exchanged statements to this effect. ...Who is going to object that to the fact that the superpowers share the common interest of preventing terrorist attacks against them coming from a third party? That means that we can and must cooperate, share technologies and scientific achievements.
Shame on you. I've put up with your bizarre theories for a long time - but to plant this on Henry and the Bushes goes beyond the pale.
Can't you wait until the bodies are cold?
22 Posted on 09/11/2001 19:28:17 PDT by Senator Pardek
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Oh, do I agree. I've been saying this for years. The link they have is the hatred of "usury" which allows them to join together in their mutual hatred of Jews and capitalism... and we all know of the former Nazi-Izlam link in WWII.
True. It's taken them six months ( since Sep 11 ) to break 'em out of ideological rehab.
& note the gov. of IT was very pro-US after the WTC attack.
I remember that. Here's a snip from a page I stumbled across...
In January, 1982, NOCS executed what is probably it's best known, and most publicized operation. US Army Brigadier General James Dozier was kidnapped by Italian Red Brigades terrorists, while on his way to work.
The terrorist held him hostage in a small apartment in Padua, and planned to execute him if their demands were not met.
Using information gained by US special intelligence units (NSA), aggressive interrogation of suspects in Italian custody, and help form Mafioso informants, Italian law enforcement officials were able to narrow Gen. Dozier's location to a small apartment.
Using the noise of near by construction site to mask their movements, a 10-man team of NOCS operators, dressed in civilian clothing, and operating under the command of Capt. Edoardo stormed into the apartment freeing Dozier before his captors could kill him.
One account of the raid I read said the Italian spec-ops guy broke the neck of the first terrorist they encountered with a karate chop. They wanted to minimize gun play as they were concerned that gunfire would alert the RB and they'd kill Dozier.
FWIW, Italy in the early 80's was a crazy place.
I do,too. I remember watching a live news feed right outside the apartment where all the terrorists lay dead,and the reporters wonderment at how this kidnapping only lasted a day or two,and ALL the kidnappers ended up dead while the guy they kidnapped made it out without a scratch.It was common back then for the Red Brigades to kidnapp people and hold them for months before murdering them. They crossed the wrong boys this time. I laughed my ass off when I recogonized a guy who had started to leave the apartment and obviously didn't realize there were tv cameras right outside the door. His eyes got big,and he blinked and dove back inside the apartment as quick as he could.
One other thing I know is that nobody heard squat from the Red Brigades for about 20 years afterwards.
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