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Sing Sing guard gets year in jail for killing 5 kittens
News Radio 88 ^ | 3/22/02

Posted on 03/22/2002 9:49:10 AM PST by areafiftyone

White Plains, New York-AP) -- A former prison guard who killed five kittens in a trash compactor at Sing Sing has been sentenced to a year in jail. A judge said the crime was ``so offensive and so calculated and so gratuitously cruel it diminishes the humanity of everybody.''

Forty-eight-year-old Ronald Hunlock had been convicted of aggravated cruelty to animals. Last March he found an inmate with contraband at the Sing Sing Correctional Facility in Ossining. He then searched the inmate's cell, found five newborn kittens and their mother and told the inmate to put them in the compactor. The inmate refused, so Hunlock did it himself.

The mother cat escaped but the kittens were crushed. Defense attorney Daniel Gallivan had asked the judge not to impose jail time, and said Hunlock thought the cats were ill and had no other recourse.


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To: triplejake
an Indiana grad

What a great win for you guys last night!! Tell you what, Big Ten blood is thicker than water. Go Big Ten! Go Hoosiers! Go Illini!

101 posted on 03/22/2002 2:02:10 PM PST by Sangamon Kid
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To: Shar1
"Mankind's true moral test, its fundamental test (which lies deely buried from view), consists of its attitude towards those who are at its mercy: animals."

Do you know who said that?

I wish there had been something like that in the bible. The only reference in scripture I can think of was rescuing an ox in a ditch on Sunday (and that seemed more because the animal was a valuable working animal) and in the OT about not cutting their hindlegs, or muzzling an ox from eating while it was working a wheel.

102 posted on 03/22/2002 2:03:40 PM PST by Aliska
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To: Sangamon Kid
Right! I agree! Only profitable tortue should be allowed!

God gave some animals to be sacrificed for our dietary benefit. We don't crush cows to death. Crushing cats is useless torture. Out society is smart enough to know the difference between slaughtering a cow, killing rats, and torturing cats.

103 posted on 03/22/2002 2:05:42 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: Sangamon Kid
After so many years of 1st and 2nd round losses, I couldn't believe my eyes last night. While I supported him many years, I am happy to see that the Knight era is well and truly over with this victory. Go Big 10! And (to get back on topic) lock up the kitten killers!
104 posted on 03/22/2002 2:07:02 PM PST by triplejake
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To: Sangamon Kid
bump
105 posted on 03/22/2002 2:07:04 PM PST by Temple Owl
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To: Aliska
There are a few other OT laws (not taking eggs from a nest while the mother bird is watching, etc.).From the totality of these specific rules, the Talmud deduced the general principle that tza'ar ba'aley chayim, causing pain to living creatures, is a sin.
106 posted on 03/22/2002 2:07:25 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian
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To: Aliska
I wish there had been something like that in the bible.

Maybe God make a mistake and should have consulted you beforehand.

107 posted on 03/22/2002 2:09:22 PM PST by Sangamon Kid
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To: Renatus
My mother got a shovel, went over to the cats and bashed all their heads in and then buried them. Now, I suppose you will tell me that she should have gone to jail for her actions. BS!

That is shocking. My agnostic father beat my b*** for stomping on a can of worms I had collected. The priest told me that wasn't a sin but I am still saddened by my behavior. I would never do that again.

Why is it that in Catholic countries, animals are so cruelly treated? I heard of some instances in Spain where the priest was on hand while they dropped some animal from a high place for sport during some festivities. Also I saw a movie where they hanged a goose upside down and men on horses whizzed by and tried to cut off its head.

If I had to witness something like that it would make me ill and I would have to get out of there.

108 posted on 03/22/2002 2:11:03 PM PST by Aliska
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To: Renatus
The children played with the kitten and they all got ringworm. My mother got a shovel, went over to the cats and bashed all their heads in and then buried them. Now, I suppose you will tell me that she should have gone to jail for her actions. BS!

How about we change the parameters a bit so it is in line with the case that we are discussing. Let's see how your story looks with a little tweeking, shall we:

The neighbors children, whom my mother was babysitting, played with the kittens they were taking care of in the barn. My mother got a shovel, went over to the cats and bashed all their heads in and then buried them. Now, I suppose you will tell me that she should have gone to jail for her actions.

If that were the case, yes. The kittens were not causing a health risk like the kittens in your mother's story. The prisoner was a ward of the State, not the guard, unlike the children in your mother's story. The guard killed the kittens because it would hurt the prisoner, not to protect him like your mother did.

Justice is the appropriate reward for action. In this case, the guard chose to act in a cruel and destructive manner with great malice and calleousness. A one year prison sentence is a just reward.

Andrea Yates got life in prison for killing her 5 children, so the arguement that we view animal life as more important than human life doesn't wash. (With the exception of abortion, which will be judged justly one day if we perservere and keep focus on that horrible slaughter.)

109 posted on 03/22/2002 2:13:58 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Lurking Libertarian
Cruelty to animals is (now) a sin according to the Catechism of the Catholic church. I'll look it up here . . .

I can't find it but I was sure it was in there somewhere.

110 posted on 03/22/2002 2:17:15 PM PST by Aliska
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To: Surfin
If you were talking to a bunch of pro-baby killing tree-huggers, you would have a HUGE point, but the vast majority of Freepers are pro-life and still find this reprehensible. Abortion can be horribly wrong in a person's mind, and they can still find room to find this to be horribly wrong. Why does the death of a human child have to diminish the senseless killing of kittens by a sadist bent on harming another person?
111 posted on 03/22/2002 2:18:28 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: John O
Technically he should be charged for theft of another's property.

Realistically he behaved more like an animal than a human and I think he got off light. I'm ashamed that I share humanity with such people.

MM

112 posted on 03/22/2002 2:25:57 PM PST by MississippiMan
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To: #3Fan
God gave some animals children to be sacrificed for our dietary hedonistic benefit. We don't crush cows to death. Crushing cats is useless torture. Out society is smart enough to know the difference between slaughtering a cow, killing rats, and torturing cats and yet not smart enough to know that there is no difference between butchering of children in the womb and the butchering of children on the street?

I love playing word games, don't you?

113 posted on 03/22/2002 2:26:39 PM PST by Sangamon Kid
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To: Sangamon Kid
Maybe God make a mistake and should have consulted you beforehand.

I wish there had been something like that in the bible.

Just kidding.

115 posted on 03/22/2002 2:30:00 PM PST by Aliska
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To: Lurking Libertarian
From the totality of these specific rules, the Talmud deduced the general principle that tza'ar ba'aley chayim, causing pain to living creatures, is a sin.

Good.

116 posted on 03/22/2002 2:31:58 PM PST by Aliska
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To: MississippiMan
Tell you what. Let's make a deal. I'll press for harsher sentences for cat killers, if you for press harsher sentences for baby killers. When people get worked up over the 40,000,00 innocent AMERICAN human lives lost since 1973, then I'll think about getting worked up over dead kittens.
117 posted on 03/22/2002 2:44:28 PM PST by Sangamon Kid
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To: Surfin
It doesn't diminish it, and more importantly for this response, no one says it does!

What is being said, however, is that by thinking this is a horrible action we somehow miss how horrible abortion is. We don't! We think this is horrible and abortion is even worse. No one has said the contrary and no one has said that abortion isn't worse.

118 posted on 03/22/2002 2:48:09 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: areafiftyone
The stupid bastard actually ordered the inmate to put the cats in the compactor. I hope he enjoys himeself in jail.
119 posted on 03/22/2002 2:49:44 PM PST by ladylib
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To: Sangamon Kid
When we get abortion outlawed, you can bet that the punishment will be much worse. Instead of trying to convince people that killing kittens to harm another isn't cruel, why don't you aknowlegde the horrible nature of this crime and then point out that indeed abortion is even worse. If compassion is lacking for the least of our charges (animals), how can I be sure that you have compassion for children? Do you have such little compassion that you must save it up for only the most important reasons?
121 posted on 03/22/2002 2:52:20 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Surfin
Not on this website.
122 posted on 03/22/2002 2:52:39 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Sangamon Kid
I've been worked up over baby-killers for a very long time, my friend. You're barking up the wrong tree.

MM

123 posted on 03/22/2002 2:57:08 PM PST by MississippiMan
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To: John O
Wow. Kittens are "property." God, I'm glad you don't live in my neighborhood.
124 posted on 03/22/2002 2:57:41 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: Sangamon Kid
Wake up--it has been determined that people who are so cruel to animals are sick and it's just a matter of time till they do something equally sick to a human.
125 posted on 03/22/2002 2:57:54 PM PST by Betteboop
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To: Sangamon Kid
A couple of years ago, our local junior high garnered some national attention for a project where kids from school would collect pop tabs - one for every victim of the Holocaust. I wasn't there when they brought in the buckets of tabs into the gymnasium, but I was told that the dreadful reality of the magnitude of that human disaster didn't take long to sink in for all that were present. The somewhat noisy auditorium soon fell silent as bucket after bucket after bucket was emptied onto an ever growing pile on the gymnasium floor. The buckets didn't stop coming. Children and parent alike were reduced to tears in shame of what had happened just 50 years ago. Do you know how long it took to bring in 6+ millions pop tabs? How about 40 million?
126 posted on 03/22/2002 2:58:40 PM PST by Sangamon Kid
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To: Dimensio
LOL! What a kook! (her, not you.)
127 posted on 03/22/2002 3:00:18 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: John O
You're not a Christian, are you?
129 posted on 03/22/2002 3:12:51 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: conserv13
I can't believe it either. These people could be living in your neighborhood. I've had a cat and a dog murdered by neighbors (in different towns) so I know how it feels. I can't read anymore of this thread because it so sickens me. Those that think it's quite alright to torture animals as long as they are your own "property" because otherwise you think people and animals are equal are morons. Worse, they probably think they are Christians, too.
131 posted on 03/22/2002 3:26:30 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: stands2reason
People who have inordinate affection for animals tend to have problems in human relationships.
132 posted on 03/22/2002 3:31:40 PM PST by Sangamon Kid
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To: Sangamon Kid
Actually, the opposite has been proven. Mental health increases with affection towards animal. Check out the actuary tables.
133 posted on 03/22/2002 3:45:05 PM PST by CasearianDaoist
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To: Sangamon Kid
Wake up folks! It was a litter of kittens, not someone's child.

Wake up....my cats are my kids and are just as important to me.

134 posted on 03/22/2002 3:54:05 PM PST by Sungirl
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To: Renatus
Oh mY GOD!! What kind of monster would do such a horrible heartless cruel thing...especially in front of children!!?? That is unbelievable!!
135 posted on 03/22/2002 3:56:57 PM PST by Sungirl
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To: CasearianDaoist
...inordinate affection...

IN-OR-DI-NATE, as in excessive; immoderate.

136 posted on 03/22/2002 4:10:54 PM PST by Sangamon Kid
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To: CasearianDaoist
see post #134
137 posted on 03/22/2002 4:12:20 PM PST by Sangamon Kid
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To: areafiftyone
My Dad made me watch as he shot a bunch of kittens and their mother - that was to show me how hard life on the farm can be. The whole lot of them were sick but it still was an awful sight and he made me watch. Maybe that's why I'm so screwed up. Ha! This story is disgusting and I'm glad the guard has to serve time.
138 posted on 03/22/2002 4:17:04 PM PST by Saundra Duffy
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To: areafiftyone
Didn't know whom to address; really mean "whomever" for the reply to. Catechism of the Catholic Church on animals:

Couldn't find it because I was looking in canon law.

p580, #2415 (won't copy it all):

2418. It is contrary to human dignity to cause animals to suffer or die needlessly. It is likewise unworthy to spend money on them that should as a priority go to the relief of human misery. One can love animals; one should not direct to them the affection due only to persons.

That makes sense to me.

Our society is so mixed together with people of different cultural backgrounds and upbringing rubbing elbows constantly, that my theory is that people turn to animals for affection because they aren't getting it from anywhere else. In short, most people are lonely, even some of the pillars of society because they have no true friends but their pets.

139 posted on 03/22/2002 4:19:33 PM PST by Aliska
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To: Sangamon Kid
I'm against abortion too, so what's your point?
140 posted on 03/22/2002 4:21:09 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: Sangamon Kid
When people get worked up over the 40,000,00 innocent AMERICAN human lives lost since 1973, then I'll think about getting worked up over dead kittens.

I get worked up over both. So you're saying since we can't stop people from murdering infants that it's OK to torture animals?

141 posted on 03/22/2002 4:23:20 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: Aliska
In short, most people are lonely, even some of the pillars of society because they have no true friends but their pets.

On the other hand, pets provide companionship to some of the most forlorn in our society.

I'd take my two dogs over lots of humans I've met. In fact, I do.

142 posted on 03/22/2002 4:25:32 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: Sangamon Kid
People who have inordinate affection for animals tend to have problems in human relationships.

So that makes it OK to torture animals?

143 posted on 03/22/2002 4:26:20 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: #3Fan
So you're saying since we can't stop people from murdering infants that it's OK to torture animals.

Nope, I just don't get worked up over it. I'd rather strain the log instead of the gnat if you know what I mean.

144 posted on 03/22/2002 4:27:17 PM PST by Sangamon Kid
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To: Aliska
It is likewise unworthy to spend money on them that should as a priority go to the relief of human misery.

This is a nonsensical statement, and I'm surprised it's in the Catholic Catechism.

It implies that trips to the vet are taking money from "the relief of human misery."

Some humans are miserable because they choose to be miserable.

145 posted on 03/22/2002 4:28:25 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: Sangamon Kid
Did you ever think that the cruelty to animals might be directly related to the disregard we have for human life?
146 posted on 03/22/2002 4:29:38 PM PST by Sangamon Kid
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To: Sangamon Kid
Nope, I just don't get worked up over it. I'd rather strain the log instead of the gnat if you know what I mean.

The knat isn't that far down from the log in this case. Life is life.

147 posted on 03/22/2002 4:32:20 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: Sangamon Kid
Did you ever think that the cruelty to animals might be directly related to the disregard we have for human life?

Or vice-versa.

148 posted on 03/22/2002 4:33:40 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: #3Fan
Life is life.

Are you a Hindu? "Life is life" is certainly not biblical.

149 posted on 03/22/2002 4:35:12 PM PST by Sangamon Kid
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To: Sangamon Kid
"inordinate amount of affection" for animals is believing their torture should be criminalized? Well, I guess then that 99% of the civilized world has difficulty with human relationships except for you and some psychotics. Well, I wouldn't want to have a relationship with anyone who felt that way.
150 posted on 03/22/2002 4:39:26 PM PST by stands2reason
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