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Fox Guy Disses Zahn And CNN Is Not Amused
ny daily news ^ | march 21, 2002

Posted on 03/22/2002 10:59:49 AM PST by chillinvillain

he latest battle between CNN and the Fox News Channel isn't over ratings, but rather words.

CNN officials were upset over a bit by Chicago radio shock jock Mancow Muller during yesterday's edition of "Fox & Friends," in which the motor-mouth punched a male sidekick who he said was a stand-in for Paula Zahn.

"I'll kill you, Paula! I'll kill you, Paula!" Muller shouted while hitting his cohort.

A CNN spokeswoman, who brought the incident to the attention of The News, said it "clearly crosses the line of what's appropriate."

No viewers called Fox about the bit, which was part of the freewheeling morning show, nor do execs there have a problem with Muller's routine, according to a spokesman.

"Mancow does a five-minute segment to give his viewpoint; it's not the viewpoint of Fox News," he said. "The issues of [yesterday] happened to be a story about 'Fox & Friends' Kicking Zahn's a--."

"I find it hard to justify violence on the air," responded CNN's spokeswoman.

"It's like the Three Stooges," snapped back the Fox spokesman. "Did the Three Stooges advocate violence?"

Yield Okay for 'Shield'

FX's gritty new drama "The Shield" appears to be doing fairly well.

The show's second episode averaged 4.05 million viewers Tuesday, down from 4.8 million the first week, a dip of 16%.

Typically, shows lose between 10% and 15% from the first episode to the second — although expectations tend to be lower on cable.

"This is beyond our wildest dreams," said an FX spokesman.

"The Shield" stars Michael Chiklis as a Los Angeles cop.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cnn; fox; muller; paulazahn
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1 posted on 03/22/2002 10:59:49 AM PST by chillinvillain
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To: chillinvillain
I think this is hillarious. Cnn spent how much on Zahn and her show is getting beat bby fox and friends hahaaaa
2 posted on 03/22/2002 11:02:18 AM PST by chillinvillain
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To: chillinvillain
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZIP
3 posted on 03/22/2002 11:07:11 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: chillinvillain
Battle of the stoopids?

Mancow seems to be quite an appropriate name for any Fox+Friends participant, regardless of their gender or orientation.

4 posted on 03/22/2002 11:10:12 AM PST by A Vast RightWing Conspirator
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To: chillinvillain
Mancow kicks ass.
5 posted on 03/22/2002 11:16:10 AM PST by SunStar
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
Mancow seems to be quite an appropriate name for any Fox+Friends participant, regardless of their gender or orientation.

You're a real comic.

6 posted on 03/22/2002 11:18:12 AM PST by SunStar
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To: chillinvillain
Bet you loved it when Alec Baldwin called for stoning Henry Hyde to death. He was "joking" too.

I for one am sick of these brain-dead vulgarians of the airwaves. Mind you, they don't bother me much, because I don't watch or listen to any of them. Why do you?

7 posted on 03/22/2002 11:19:22 AM PST by ArcLight
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To: chillinvillain
It's not that Fox and Friends is that great, it's that CNN is that bad!
8 posted on 03/22/2002 11:19:56 AM PST by smithson
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To: SunStar
Correction: Mancow kicks sucks ass.

He's a Stern wannabe. And Stern sucks too.

9 posted on 03/22/2002 11:23:06 AM PST by usconservative
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To: chillinvillain
You da man, Madcow!
10 posted on 03/22/2002 11:25:29 AM PST by slimer
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To: smithson
The only weak link on Fox and Friend;s is E.D......Steve Doocey and Brian Kilmeade an Juliette are HILARIOUS!!! and QUICK WITS!...E.D. is just a Nit-Wit with a middle of the road balancing act.
11 posted on 03/22/2002 11:25:42 AM PST by Ann Archy
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To: Ann Archy
I like E.D.
12 posted on 03/22/2002 11:29:51 AM PST by GoMonster
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To: Ann Archy
"...E.D. is a nit-wit."

Agreed. She babbles on and on. This week she was real bad. Poor Steve and Brian. Brian just bites his lip. I don't think she'll be on much longer if she keeps it up. Her opinion is worthless.

13 posted on 03/22/2002 11:34:09 AM PST by smithson
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To: Ann Archy
Whoa. E.D. a bubble-head?? Middle-of-the-road? Are we watching the same program? I tend to think of E.D. as a very bright, assertive den mother. Steve is kind of like the father-figure. And Brian is the goofy, loveable brother. I love that show.
14 posted on 03/22/2002 11:34:18 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: GoMonster
I like E.D.

Dear Lord... how many E.D. pics are we gonna see posted this time? :-)

15 posted on 03/22/2002 11:34:35 AM PST by Darth Sidious
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To: Ann Archy
I hope that you have your flame retardant suit on. There are some real E.D lovers on this site. But they are probably still on the Stern/Pam Anderson thread.
16 posted on 03/22/2002 11:35:45 AM PST by CollegeRepublican
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To: GoMonster
The Fox Ladies.

FOXES

17 posted on 03/22/2002 11:37:22 AM PST by stlrocket
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To: chillinvillain
ACNN Declares "All-Out War" Against FOX News
18 posted on 03/22/2002 11:44:05 AM PST by goliath
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To: mewzilla
That's the best description of the 3 F&F anchors that ever could be written! It should replace that goofy one about how they're warm and peppy, or whatever it is.
19 posted on 03/22/2002 11:50:25 AM PST by mombonn
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To: ArcLight
I don't like Fox & Friends either. It's too loud, and has little substance.

Carolyn

P.S. Maybe I'm just getting old? :^(

20 posted on 03/22/2002 11:59:17 AM PST by CDHart
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To: smithson
Her opinion is worthless.

And her legs are evidently worth about $1 million/year, or whatever Fox is paying her now.

21 posted on 03/22/2002 12:00:55 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: chillinvillain
I like Fox & Friends. They use Metallica for bumper music when they come back from commercial. And not 'soft' Metallica, but heavy shit like The Wait
22 posted on 03/22/2002 12:04:31 PM PST by Phantom Lord
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To: Darth Sidious
Dear Lord... how many E.D. pics are we gonna see posted this time? :-)

Not enough

23 posted on 03/22/2002 12:05:42 PM PST by Phantom Lord
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To: Ann Archy
Yes, sometimes E.D. can be a little annoying, but overall I think she is good for the show.
I don't like how she jumped on the bandwagon against John Ashcroft and the drapes story.
The true story had already come out but she decided to make some stupid comments anyway regarding him covering up the statues.
24 posted on 03/22/2002 12:07:21 PM PST by StayoutdaBushesWay
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To: Phantom Lord
can we see more ed pics. I don't think she is dumb but i think that by making her look dumb fox makes her look hotter. if she is too opinionated she wouldn't be half as cute i think.
25 posted on 03/22/2002 12:12:39 PM PST by crazyj
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To: SunStar
You sure are touchy for somebody who likes a guy who gets his jollies and makes his dough off f&#@%$g with people.
26 posted on 03/22/2002 12:15:15 PM PST by Pistias
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To: chillinvillain
Breaking Hard from CNN

Zahn states "I'm rubber and you're glue what bounces off me sticks to you."

More as it developes....

27 posted on 03/22/2002 12:15:17 PM PST by Lost Highway
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To: Phantom Lord
And Pink Floyd's Run when they show UBL. We really like that one.
28 posted on 03/22/2002 12:15:35 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: chillinvillain
well, at least the Fox spokesman got it right, their network is at about the same intellectual level as the 3 stooges
29 posted on 03/22/2002 12:18:41 PM PST by dmz
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To: dmz
If Fox is 3 stooges level, where does that put CNN?
30 posted on 03/22/2002 12:22:28 PM PST by Phantom Lord
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To: CDHart
Fox and Friends is annoying to me, too. I can't put my finger on exactly why.
I know it isn't popular FreeRepublic fare, but I enjoy NBC's Today show. Like it or not, they get interviews with the people in the news. This morning, they had on the guy with a baseball bat who chased down a truck-theif after the stolen dump truck crashed. I was glad to hear the interview. The "Batman", while not a policeman himself, comes from a family of police officers, and is into martial arts. It was really cool how he cornered the truck theif.
I don't know if they pay for interviews or what, but Today does get the right people on.
31 posted on 03/22/2002 12:22:42 PM PST by Diverdogz
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To: usconservative
Correction: Mancow sucks ass.

No correction was needed. Mancow is the best shock jock on the air today, and he is politically conservative.

32 posted on 03/22/2002 12:23:27 PM PST by SunStar
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To: Pistias
You sure are touchy for somebody who likes a guy who gets his jollies and makes his dough off f&#@%$g with people.

What the f*ck are you talking about?

I happen to like a little comedy in the morning, and Mancow is excellent.

33 posted on 03/22/2002 12:24:54 PM PST by SunStar
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To: smithson
Maybe your right. all in all this article sounds pretty funny though i could just see the people at cnn stomping like children over this. Paula needs to loosen up if she is ever going to even catch these three. (It's not that Fox and Friends is that great, it's that CNN is that bad!)
34 posted on 03/22/2002 12:25:15 PM PST by chillinvillain
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To: mewzilla
I agree with your above #14.

The Fox & Friends venue is the real deal. I'm dating my self, but back in the early days of live television morning shows of the 50's...(Garaway, Godfrey, Carson , Allen and Parks)...the suits of 5th & Madison always "dissed" each other. It was called competition.

The ratings ruled. Only those on the failing sheet were not amused. Sometimes life isn't fair. So what else is new.

Mustang sends.

35 posted on 03/22/2002 12:27:58 PM PST by Mustang
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To: chillinvillain
i have no clue who mancow is but i don't like howard stern for one reason, he ridicules stars for being fake but he himself is a big wimp who hides behind his microphone and does nothing but ridicule others ad rate strippers. I admit i listened to him for a semester at college, but i was tired it was like wrestling the same thing everyday with very little variation.
36 posted on 03/22/2002 12:29:08 PM PST by chillinvillain
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To: Darth Sidious
How many would you like?
37 posted on 03/22/2002 12:35:47 PM PST by Mr. Thorne
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To: Mr. Thorne
Lots of `em, please. :-)
38 posted on 03/22/2002 12:39:59 PM PST by hchutch
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To: CollegeRepublican
Nope. Hanging out right here. Don't do Stern, prob'ly wouldn't like UNEDITED ManCow.

However, as the situation stands, he didn't HIT his assistant, anymore than any person in a TV 'fight' gets hit. The bit began with 'so-and-so's Paula Zahn, I'm Fox, OK,' and that's when the 'violence' began.

Also, does anyone else find it particulartly ironic that, what, two sentences after a statement from from CNN's spokeswoman: "I find it hard to justify violence on the air," we have a description of how well "The Shield" is doing.

I mean, I watched an episone of that last week. Violent? Good heavens.

And, finally, does anyone think that losing CNN's spokes-folks from the Fox audience is REALLY going to hurt?

39 posted on 03/22/2002 12:42:30 PM PST by Mr. Thorne
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To: SunStar
I agree. So what's the "you're a real comic" about? You got friends on Fox?
40 posted on 03/22/2002 12:44:43 PM PST by Pistias
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To: chillinvillain
I saw the show - it was great !! !!
41 posted on 03/22/2002 12:48:31 PM PST by Alabama_Wild_Man
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To: stlrocket
Where's Jane Skinner?!?
42 posted on 03/22/2002 12:53:24 PM PST by GBA
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To: chillinvillain
Great half-baked article. Before Mancow did the "I'll kill you, Paula!" routine it was pointed out they were refering to killing her in the ratings. They also mentioned it again. I guess it wasn't stated clear enough for morons.
43 posted on 03/22/2002 12:55:01 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: hchutch
Your wish...

Is my command!

Of course, unlike some people
I'm not so shallow as to
watch a morning program
simply to stare at E.D. Donahey.

I watch so I can stare at

Lauren Green

Ah, yes.

44 posted on 03/22/2002 12:58:10 PM PST by Mr. Thorne
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To: chillinvillain
The Shield is great too.
45 posted on 03/22/2002 1:00:45 PM PST by Mr.Clark
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To: mewzilla
Right on! F&F rules!

The wife and I love that show.

But I do want the weather puppets back...

46 posted on 03/22/2002 1:01:25 PM PST by Mr. Thorne
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To: Mr.Clark
The Shield is COLD man.

I watched an episode last week; I see Reed Diamond (from Homicide), and I'm thinking, cool, I like that guy.

Then the 'hero' goes and pops him at the end of the episode.

Yowch!

47 posted on 03/22/2002 1:03:14 PM PST by Mr. Thorne
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To: Mr. Thorne
Yeah, the show is really brutal. That was some ending.
48 posted on 03/22/2002 1:08:07 PM PST by Mr.Clark
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To: Mr.Clark
Seriously. I mean, I knew it was, how do I put this, a 'tough' show, but DANG, man.

And to think, this guy is the fat little weiner from The Commish.

49 posted on 03/22/2002 1:16:38 PM PST by Mr. Thorne
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To: mewzilla
Same here. Just can't please everyone all the time!
50 posted on 03/22/2002 1:17:21 PM PST by MadelineZapeezda
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