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Bobby Knight on The Factor tonight....8pm

Posted on 03/26/2002 12:13:32 PM PST by rs79bm

Bobby Knight will be on O'Reilly tonight....8pm This is guy is always an interesting interview. You have to say that he speaks his mind, regardless.


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1 posted on 03/26/2002 12:13:32 PM PST by rs79bm
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To: rs79bm
Maybe he will get mad and throw a chair at Bill.
2 posted on 03/26/2002 12:14:55 PM PST by rs79bm
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To: rs79bm
Did anyone see The Best Damn Sports Show Period when Tom Arnold did the "Things you dont say to Bobby Knight" skit? Damn funny, the only one I remember is,

"Hey Coach, you using that chair?"...JFK

3 posted on 03/26/2002 12:16:39 PM PST by BADROTOFINGER
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To: rs79bm
"Bobby, how does it feel to be eliminated from March Madness in the first round YET AGAIN, while your old team will be playing in the Final Four this weekend?"
4 posted on 03/26/2002 12:17:11 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: NittanyLion
"Bobby, how does it feel to be eliminated from March Madness in the first round YET AGAIN, while your old team will be playing in the Final Four this weekend?"

In his defense, Texas Tech was supposed to finish near the bottom of the pile in the Big 12. Knight did an incredible job his first year there despite Tech's early exit from the Big Dance.

5 posted on 03/26/2002 12:43:17 PM PST by Sangamon Kid
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To: NittanyLion
Did you notice that he took at last place team from 2000-01, bounced 4 players and got to the NCAA's. Looked like one hell of a coaching job to me. Can't say the same for the Nittany Lion performance this past season. Yes...Bobby Knight can be a miserable SOB.
6 posted on 03/26/2002 12:45:00 PM PST by JonH
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To: rs79bm
Memo to staff-all metal folding chairs off the Factor set tonight...
7 posted on 03/26/2002 12:45:03 PM PST by codebreaker
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To: rs79bm
I actually am probably one of the few that likes him, yes he's got a temper. But he is also very big on keeping his athletes in check and their egos down, not to mention many of his students graduate.

You look at his former students, and they all say he was hard, but that he was fair and they loved and respected him for it. I got the impression that for many, he was the father figure in their lives.

As far as losing in the NCAA tournament, being an alumni of Texas Tech, I'm quite impressed that he made it to the tournament with the players he had, in his first year.

8 posted on 03/26/2002 12:47:33 PM PST by texlok
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To: NittanyLion
"Bobby, how does it feel to be eliminated from March Madness in the first round YET AGAIN, while your old team will be playing in the Final Four this weekend?"

Coach Knight took a Texas Tech basketball team that won only 9 games last year to a 23-9 record this year. He is also a current finalist for the Claire Bee "Coach of the Year" award. And how did those Nittany Lions do? : 7-21 in what may have been one of the worst college basketball programs in the country this year.

9 posted on 03/26/2002 12:50:48 PM PST by joebuck
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To: texlok
I like Knight too. It's not PC to do so, but you've got to give the guy credit. He runs a tight ship and has always had quality young men graduate from his program.
10 posted on 03/26/2002 12:50:54 PM PST by oldvike
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To: oldvike
I have three graduate degrees from Indiana University. When I.U. got rid of Bobby Knight they also got rid of me. I don't especially care what the Hoosiers do in the final four.
11 posted on 03/26/2002 12:54:03 PM PST by curmudgeonII
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To: oldvike
Chalk me up as a former Indiana fan who went with Knight to Texas Tech - what a job he did there! And I especially like him since it is not PC to do so!

Indiana would not be what it is without his efforts there over 30 years - and the PC administration threw him out like garbage - I don't think you treat people like that. Another reason I am a former Indiana fan.
12 posted on 03/26/2002 12:54:51 PM PST by day10
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To: joebuck; JonH; Sangamon Kid
I don't defend the Penn State program. Jerry Dunn is possibly the worst coach in America, and I usually root for PSU to lose. That's the only way he'll be sent packing, and then the program can get back on track.

Knight's X's and O's are obviously quite sound. But his continual in-your-face assault for five months clearly wears on his players, leaving them with little/no gas in the tank come March. Coaches who understand how to manage their team for an entire season fare much better when it counts.

His off the court behavior is repugnant, and well documented. No need to discuss that any further.

13 posted on 03/26/2002 12:54:59 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: curmudgeonII; day10
See, there are a few of us Knight likers out there. What makes me a REAL anomoly is that I'm a Kentucky fan! IU was one of our arch enemies when Coach Knight was there. LOL

BTW, did you guys catch him on Sean Hannity's show today? Pretty good interview considering he was only on the show to plug his new autobiography.

14 posted on 03/26/2002 12:58:00 PM PST by oldvike
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To: rs79bm
Bobby Knight Chokes the Chicken
15 posted on 03/26/2002 12:58:32 PM PST by foghorn
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To: NittanyLion
Coaches who understand how to manage their team for an entire season fare much better when it counts.

I respectfully disagree - by your estimation then neither Kansas nor Oklahoma should be int the Final Four as they played in unquestionably the toughest conference in the country and should be worn out.
16 posted on 03/26/2002 1:00:58 PM PST by day10
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To: day10
I respectfully disagree - by your estimation then neither Kansas nor Oklahoma should be int the Final Four as they played in unquestionably the toughest conference in the country and should be worn out.

I'm speaking more of a "mental gas tank". Physically, athletes are remarkably resilient. Easing off for a couple or three weeks at the end of a 5-month season will result in near to full recovery of muscle fatigue. But you can't keep your thumb down on your athletes every day for five months and expect them to raise their play a notch when it counts. Allowing for a sense of perspective is a far better way to prepare athletes for a big game. If you don't believe me, ask Joe Torre.

17 posted on 03/26/2002 1:04:14 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: oldvike
Re #14

With Bobby Knight, there is no in-between. You either like him or hate him. If you like him, you could also die for him. He can inspire fierce loyalty from those who like him. In that sense, he is charismatic. Could have made a great field commander.

18 posted on 03/26/2002 1:06:43 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: NittanyLion
Coaches who understand how to manage their team for an entire season fare much better when it counts.

Isn't that why Maryland's done so well recently? They've always been a good program under Gary Williams (272-143 at Maryland), but it's my understanding that their best showings have come since he tempered his formerly Knight-like intensity. I notice that he's AP's ACC Coach of the Year, as well as Sportsline.com's national Coach of the Year.

19 posted on 03/26/2002 1:06:43 PM PST by Caleb1411
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To: NittanyLion
ask Joe Torre.

or Bill Walsh

20 posted on 03/26/2002 1:07:23 PM PST by GoreIsLove
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To: NittanyLion
"Bobby, how does it feel to be eliminated from March Madness in the first round YET AGAIN, while your old team will be playing in the Final Four this weekend?"

Knight left IU in fall of 2000. Everyone playing regularly on the IU team this year is at least a sophomore, and was recruited by Knight. This is a team that he contructed. Also, Kirk Haston, a first round pick last year would have been a senior this year had he not packed up early.
21 posted on 03/26/2002 1:10:33 PM PST by ilgipper
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To: Caleb1411
They've always been a good program under Gary Williams (272-143 at Maryland), but it's my understanding that their best showings have come since he tempered his formerly Knight-like intensity. I notice that he's AP's ACC Coach of the Year, as well as Sportsline.com's national Coach of the Year.

Yes, I think he's dialed it down a notch as of late. I think there should be a sense that in-season there are obstacles to overcome and things will not go perfectly. And in the handling of those situations, the team will be prepared to perform at peak levels during the playoffs. That way the athletes look forward with anticipation, as opposed to breathinga sign of relief at having made it through the regular season.

Knight seems to treat every game as the end-all. With certain groups this can work, but over 30 seasons he would be more successful to go a bit easier.

22 posted on 03/26/2002 1:12:44 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: ilgipper
Knight left IU in fall of 2000. Everyone playing regularly on the IU team this year is at least a sophomore, and was recruited by Knight. This is a team that he contructed. Also, Kirk Haston, a first round pick last year would have been a senior this year had he not packed up early.

This IU team would not have gone as far with Bob Knight on the sideline.

23 posted on 03/26/2002 1:13:39 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: rs79bm
Bobby Knight on The Factor tonight....8pm

Thanks for the warning

24 posted on 03/26/2002 1:13:45 PM PST by paul51
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To: NittanyLion
how do you know that?
25 posted on 03/26/2002 1:14:16 PM PST by ilgipper
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How do you know that?

No one knows for sure, but it's a safe bet. IU has played inspired ball in this tournament, something that's been lacking under Knight. And it's something you'd expect to see out of a Duke, Arizona or Michigan State team.

26 posted on 03/26/2002 1:16:44 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: rs79bm
Should have appeared on Larry King next to a gay guy.

Then he could have started yelling at the gay guy.

Then the headline could have been Knight threatens Queen, putting King in check.

27 posted on 03/26/2002 1:17:09 PM PST by Lazamataz
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Then the headline could have been Knight threatens Queen, putting King in check.

ROFL.

28 posted on 03/26/2002 1:18:15 PM PST by NittanyLion
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Hey, come on now Nittany - Texas Tech is MY school....... at least they made it to the Tournament...........
29 posted on 03/26/2002 1:18:22 PM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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Hey, come on now Nittany - Texas Tech is MY school....... at least they made it to the Tournament...........

LOL. And that's more than my alma mater can say!

30 posted on 03/26/2002 1:20:17 PM PST by NittanyLion
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But his continual in-your-face assault for five months An absolute lie! As a former season ticket holder I can tell you that. BTW Your the one who believed the ESPN movie! I heard of several being out there, but had no confirmation till now.
31 posted on 03/26/2002 1:20:45 PM PST by sausageseller
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Knight threatens Queen, putting King in check.

Funniest thing I've read all day!

32 posted on 03/26/2002 1:20:47 PM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: NittanyLion
I'm just happy IU's still playing. It's been a tough few years in Hoosierland. Not too many people in Bloomington this week worrying about Knight's departure.
33 posted on 03/26/2002 1:22:26 PM PST by ilgipper
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Every story I've ever read and account I've ever heard has been that Knight rides his players hard from Day 1 of the season until the season ends.
34 posted on 03/26/2002 1:22:28 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: NittanyLion
NittanyLion= Ms Cleo
35 posted on 03/26/2002 1:23:24 PM PST by sausageseller
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To: ilgipper
I'm just happy IU's still playing. It's been a tough few years in Hoosierland. Not too many people in Bloomington this week worrying about Knight's departure.

For sure. I'll be pulling for the BigTen the rest of the way. Go Hoosiers!

36 posted on 03/26/2002 1:23:39 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: sausageseller
NittanyLion= Ms Cleo

Nah, but it's an educated guess. And I have some experience in the field. Also, the fact that Knight didn't make it this far in the past nine years, with many of these same players, is a pretty good indicator.

37 posted on 03/26/2002 1:25:01 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: rs79bm
Ask Nolan Richardson how many kids have graduated from Arkansas since he started there? I know, racist question. My bad.
38 posted on 03/26/2002 1:25:42 PM PST by gohabsgo
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But his continual in-your-face assault for five months

Again an ABSOLUTE lie.

Even "Season on the Brink" reads different than YOUR account.

Also Steve Alfords book, "Playing for Knight" proves you wrong.

BTW I would believe Steve Alford before you!

39 posted on 03/26/2002 1:28:15 PM PST by sausageseller
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I am an IU grad and supported Knight for many years, but enough got to be enough. Bottom line was that he expects total devotion and discipline from everyone around him, but is completely undisciplined in his own conduct. It was also completely classless of him to encourage Haston to go pro to try (unsuccessfully) to torpedo the Hoosiers' chances this year and to talk Sean May out of going to IU.
40 posted on 03/26/2002 1:47:41 PM PST by triplejake
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I'm probably even more of an anomaly than you - I'm a Purdue grad and a big Bobby Knight fan!
41 posted on 03/26/2002 2:04:12 PM PST by slugbug
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BTW I would believe Steve Alford before you!

Believe whoever you want. All I'm saying is that Knight treats every game like a championship game, and that's a bad formula for winning the actual championship game. A coach needs to recognize that through the course of a season his/her team will compete in less-than-prime conditions, and go through ups and downs. It's the coach's job to help the team keep an even keel and direct the team's energy toward doing the things it needs to get better. Recognizing this, a team will be mentally ready to compete when it absolutely needs to be, as opposed to mentally exhausted.

42 posted on 03/26/2002 2:14:56 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: rs79bm

43 posted on 03/26/2002 2:30:37 PM PST by GnL
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And to think what you describe doesn't happen in most programs. The truth is it does. The hiposrisy of most all Knight detractors is what gets me. Sidelines and games in college and pro sports is nothing but a string of expletives.

Haston would have went pro reguardless of Knight. And for those that think Knight was so bad why would they think Haston would have stayed? It doesn't fit. The truth is the deal Felling was making for the tape is what really blowed it up. But we only to look at Knight's bad behavior an give a pass to everyuone elses?

Lets not forget why Mike Davis is at Indiana in the first place. Knight got him the job as an assistant. Knight is the reason he is at Indiana.And don't forget the players that told the admin. that they would leave Indiana if Davis was not the coach. That put a little presure on Brand.

44 posted on 03/26/2002 2:49:13 PM PST by sausageseller
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BTW May would not have gotten much playing time. To many 1,2, and 3s allready signed letters and team now. I think he has his eyes set on NBA. And if you want to know the truth i think Haston should have stayed and Jefferies should stay AT LEAST another year.
45 posted on 03/26/2002 2:55:37 PM PST by sausageseller
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To: rs79bm
Yeah, but where does Bobby Knight stand on McCain-Feingold??
46 posted on 03/26/2002 3:29:28 PM PST by Ken H
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To: rs79bm
Holy cow! Knight didn't show up for his interview with O'Reilly!!!
47 posted on 03/26/2002 4:38:55 PM PST by oldvike
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To: rs79bm
NO SHOW!

He forfeited the interview!

48 posted on 03/26/2002 4:39:11 PM PST by Ken H
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What a chickensh*t! Knight is a psychopath, so why is this a surprise?

It adds to his "aura" with his sycophants.

49 posted on 03/26/2002 4:43:26 PM PST by sinkspur
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BTW May would not have gotten much playing time. To many 1,2, and 3s allready signed letters and team now. I think he has his eyes set on NBA. And if you want to know the truth i think Haston should have stayed and Jefferies should stay AT LEAST another year.

I am a little peaved with Knight's involvement in players and recruits. Funny all of them seemed to do what is NOT in IU's best interest. After Haston got drafted in the first round, I conceded that it was not a stupid decision, but would have made this year even more fun.
50 posted on 03/26/2002 5:07:48 PM PST by ilgipper
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