Posted on 03/27/2002 8:02:13 AM PST by LarryLied
Edited on 04/13/2004 2:07:36 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
The Catholic Church's most reliable supporters, conservatives who have traditionally leapt to defend the institutional hierarchy whenever its practices have been questioned, are increasingly irate over the church's handling of the clergy sexual abuse crisis.
Commentators William J. Bennett, William F. Buckley Jr., and Patrick J. Buchanan have harshly criticized Cardinal Bernard F. Law. Self-described orthodox Catholics are denouncing the church's bishops.
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And many conservative members have left the Church to raise their children elsewhere.
Mostly because we've been hollering about this since the early sixties, when the Church decided to "reach out" to gays because they wouldn't want to marry. Did anyone ask if no desire to marry was the same as remaining celibate? Well, duh.
But are so many homo priests so far up in the Church hierarchy that they will prevent it from happening?
That's the question.
But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons,
1Tim 4:2 by means of the hypocrisy of liars seared in their own conscience as with a branding iron ,
1Tim 4:3 men who forbid marriage and advocate abstaining from foods which God has created to be gratefully shared in by those who believe and know the truth.
These guys are totally clueless. Every predator priest is QUEER...and liberal. Not surprisingly, we have the libs defending queer priests.
This is where the "vocations crisis" is coming from. God is calling faithful men to preach the truth, but they are being culled out by Sister Apostasia Feminazi and her ilk at the diocesan or seminary level because they are "rigid" or "homophobic" or "misogynist" or "triumphalist" or any of a dozen other liberal naughties. The real agenda is "we want no priests except misfits, so we can argue that female "ordination" and an end to celibacy is the only answer to the priestless church we've created."
There are a couple of bishops in NY state who seem honestly proud that they are producing no new priests at all.
Probably 20% of our bishops should be deposed and replaced. Certain seminaries -- I'm going to point at Mundelein in particular -- should be closed until they can be re-staffed with people -- men, primarily -- 100% faithful to the Church. And the various apostate "Catholic colleges" which are not Catholic at all -- DePaul and Georgetown and BC, this means you, and ND, you aren't going to escape either -- need to be forced to purge the heretics from their theology departments or officially disassociate themselves from the Church. As it is, they're guilty of false advertising.
Someone at last noticing the pink elephant in the parlor? We don't need any more 'steenken reforms'. What is needed is a counter-reformation to dump those leaders of the Am-Church who wanted to 'update' the Church.
We need to return to preaching and practicing morality. We need to 'open' the Vatican II windows again and this time to let out the stink of those that used Vatican II for their own agendas.
I speak as an outsider, being an inactive Episcopalian, but this has been my impression over the years: that there has been an increasingly lower number of straight men in the U.S. and in several other countries willing to sign on for a lifetime of celibacy . I am guessing that this is largely due to the huge increase in emphasis on sex in so many areas of life in the U.S., Britain, and Europe. BTW, twenty years or more ago, I heard from a family of Catholic friends who had a son in seminary that the place had a pretty gay subculture. The son did not stay in seminary, but I have never known the exact reason why.
IMHO, creating an order of parish priests who are permitted to marry (like the Orthodox practice) would seem to be a very reasonable action to me, but my background is Protestant so I'm comfortable with a married clergy. However, my experience with female priests in the Episcopal Church has been uniformly bad so I can't say I wish that alternative on the Catholic Church.
Jews, Protestants: You're next!
Is she a member of the same order as Sister Snowflake? If I'm not mistaken, Sister Snowflake is the one who does liturgical dance, and Sister Apostasia is the lector at meals who reads aloud from Rosemary Reuther...
No offense, but tell that to the kids that have been abused.
I knew the devil would try to be helpful in these difficult times.
I am afraid, your theory is correct.
...Certain seminaries -- I'm going to point at Mundelein in particular -- should be closed until they can be re-staffed with people -- men, primarily -- 100% faithful to the Church.
I heard, ever since Cardinal Francis George took over, Mundelein is being gradually purged of the filth. It's a huge task for him and the enemy is still strong and kicking.
The only nuns who want to lead a parish are the liberal ones. (They want power.) If a nun was runnng a parish I was attending I would quit.
A parish is for a pastor to run.
That is what makes conservatives better people than liberals.
Somehow, I don't think so. These are not the official PC adversaries.
But the Southern Baptists and the Promise Keepers might be the next target.
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