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SAUDI SUBVERSION IN AMERICA
New York Post ^ | 4/01/02 | STEPHEN SCHWARTZ

Posted on 04/01/2002 2:35:11 AM PST by kattracks

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:05:32 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

April 1, 2002 -- FEDERAL law enforcement has kicked over quite an anthill in Northern Virginia. A U.S. Treasury task force, Operation Green Quest, has been investigating the funding of Islamic terror. Raids on March 20 struck an extraordinary array of financial, charitable and ostensibly religious entities identified with Muslim and Arab concerns in this country, most of them headquartered in Northern Virginia.


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TOPICS: Editorial; Israel; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: islamicviolence; jihadinamerica; terrorwar

1 posted on 04/01/2002 2:35:11 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
bttt
2 posted on 04/01/2002 2:40:24 AM PST by weikel
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To: kattracks

"So what if all the 911 murderers were Saudi. DO NOT LOOK BEHIND THE CURTAIN!!"


3 posted on 04/01/2002 2:41:33 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: kattracks
I'm starting to think that we should put Iraq and Iran on the back burner until we've toppled the House of Saud and made Saudi Arabia what it should have been since about 1970: a heavily garrisoned American protectorate, administered by some velvet-fingered type such as, oh, Norman Schwarzkopf. If he's not available, maybe former New Jersey high school principal Joe Clark could be persuaded to take the role.

Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
Francis W. Porretto
Visit The Palace Of Reason: http://palaceofreason.com

4 posted on 04/01/2002 3:32:34 AM PST by fporretto
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To: kattracks
Can we only freeze their accounts? I would think they could be arrested for funding terrorisn in the U.S.
5 posted on 04/01/2002 3:48:23 AM PST by Lucky
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To: kattracks
http://www.observernews.com/stories/current/herndon/032902/wolf.shtml

Posted March 29, 2002

Wolf Meeting Focuses on Muslim's Anger Over Raids

By Eden Schneider

Observer Staff Writer

The Muslim community turned out in force for a town meeting with U.S. Congressman Frank R. Wolf (R-Va.) last Saturday, demanding an explanation for raids on homes and businesses last week which left the community shaken and angry.

Community leaders expressed their concerns about the March 20 raids on the offices of the International Institute of Islamic Thought in Herndon and 13 other locations in Loudoun and Fairfax counties.

Wolf's town meeting on March 23 at the Sterling library was the third this week to hear constituent's viewpoints on everything from campaign finance reform and commuter taxes to the issue of OxyContin addiction. Most of the two-hour meeting, however, was spent fielding questions about the raids from an angry but reserved audience of more than 100. "We're scared, we don't know what next,” said one man. "The Muslim community stands on very solid ground about the war on terrorism, but you are our only venue, so we ask you to go to [Attorney General John] Ashcroft and let him know, that it's not the number of people you collect, but the actual terrorists who are culled out.”

Wolf said he did not know all the facts of the raid, but vowed to investigate further and to work with the Muslim community to ensure their civil liberties are protected.

"I was the only member of Congress who spoke out for the Muslims in China,” said Wolf. "I visited Chechneya. In January, I spent two days in Afghanistan and five days in Pakistan. I've brought my pastor to your mosque. I've attempted to have an open and balanced policy.”

Members of the audience also asked for Wolf's support of the campaign finance reform bill, which would prohibit corporations or individuals from making large donations to specific candidates by routing funds through the national political parties.

"I watched what took place in the Clinton White House. The coffees for large donations, the sale of sleep overs in the Lincoln bedroom. That's why I voted for the bill,” said Wolf.

Audience members also questioned Wolf on his anti-drug policy, specifically as it relates to the highly addictive prescription drug OxyContin and the social and personal devastation caused by the addiction.

Wolf, who sponsored an informational briefing on OxyContin in Loudoun County the day before his Sterling appearance, acknowledged that theft of the drug from local pharmacies has endangered the community.

"Imagine if you or your wife has been in the Safeway in Sterling Park or the Target in Reston with your children when one of these pharmacies was robbed,” said Wolf. "We have put $2 million into the budget for prescription monitoring in this state.”

To contact Congressman Frank Wolf, call his local office at 703-709-5800 or 800-945-9653. The office is located at 13873 Park Center Road, Suite 130 in Herndon.  

Copyright © 2002 The Herndon Publishing Company

(703) 437-5886

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Wolf said he did not know all the facts of the raid, but vowed to investigate further and to work with the Muslim community to ensure their civil liberties are protected.

Be interesting to hear what Congressman Wolf finds out. I suspect the feds had valid reasons for the raid. Knowing that this community seems to be politically wired and lawyered up, and knowing what kind of outcry would come out of it, they probably had compelling reasons.

Since Wolf has published his number, feel free to give him a holler. Also, I don't know where this guy is coming from if he voted for CFR. The Clinton people were breaking existing laws.

6 posted on 04/01/2002 4:25:56 AM PST by pttttt
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To: thud
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7 posted on 04/01/2002 6:07:50 AM PST by Dark Wing
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To: kattracks
Most of the money and much of the brains behind the Islamic terrorism emanates from the Arabian Peninsula. Pakistan has now shown itself to be both a source for terrorists and as well as a haven for fugitive terrorists. Saudi Arabia and Pakistan seem to me greater threats than Iraq or Iran. Both countries have highly developed intelligence agencies and have been able to project an appearance of sympathy to the War on Terror, while doing little if anything to stop the terrorists which operate on their soil hidden from international scrutiny.
8 posted on 04/01/2002 6:37:02 AM PST by Biblebelter
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To: *TerrorWar;*Jihad in America;Black Jade
Check the Bump List folders for articles related to and descriptions of the above topic(s) or for other topics of interest.
9 posted on 04/01/2002 11:08:24 AM PST by Free the USA
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To: Black Jade
bttt
13 posted on 04/02/2002 9:23:55 PM PST by Fish out of Water
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To: Diogenesis
bump
14 posted on 04/02/2002 9:29:32 PM PST by timestax
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To: Black Jade;dennisw;RatCat
Is political corruption a normal part of life?...Have we been conditioned to see it all..and ask why..but never carry the investigation to its conclusion?

In some way.. has an ingenious system of deflection emerged.
Did the Saudi's "Talk" their way out of Sept 11th..or did we "Talk" them out of their dilemma for them?.
In a sense...like Pavlovs dog..are they not conditioned by our choice making..ie..they carry on business as usuall..when caught..they enter into verball dialogue..understanding that a little public "Mud" is all that will come of it.
Have the other Mid-east Arab regimes not clued into this "Windfall" mechanics.
They lie..we cover for them.
They threaten our security...we cover for them.
They ask for money and weapons..we do it..our population asks why?..and we cover for them.
Who is the master...and who is the servant?
What will our Governments say to us ..and God forbid that it should ever happen..but what will they say..if America see's bio warfare visit its shores..of 'Dirty suitcase nukes' detonated in some port via a container ship from the mid-east or the orient?
Is this our real reality..that business must come first...that doing so with 'Theatening' regimes is scalable...should a detrimental event occur..it will be discussed away.
Like King Hezekiah..who foolishly showed the Babylonian envoys all his wealth..all his state secrets.
Babylon rolled over Judah shortly thereafter..have we inadvertantly commited the same folly?

15 posted on 04/02/2002 11:11:21 PM PST by Light Speed
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To: Diogenesis
Amazing how the NY Times has kept that image on their server for us to poach.
16 posted on 04/03/2002 2:06:12 AM PST by dennisw
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To: Light Speed
Let the guns, tanks and nukes do the talking. Muslims like it this way. I am ready any time and would say the same if I lived in Israel.
17 posted on 04/03/2002 2:10:14 AM PST by dennisw
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To: Black Jade
BTTT!!!!!!
18 posted on 04/03/2002 2:15:34 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: pttttt
Wolf is another example of VAGOP liberal office holders. That's about all they want to run for office in the state, liberals like Wolfe and that gungrabbing NAACP member they ran for governor.
19 posted on 04/03/2002 3:36:47 AM PST by Twodees
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To: Light Speed
[or did we "Talk" them out of their dilemma for them]

GW Bush was on TV urging Americans to leave the islamic cultists alone while the ruins were still smoldering. He's made an absolute nincompoop out of himself on this subject ever since. It wasn't a case of "we" doing any such thing, it was politicians. They're not "us" and they don't care about us.

20 posted on 04/03/2002 3:43:23 AM PST by Twodees
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To: fporretto
WHy do you want to waste time keeping these people under lock and key? Kick them out of Saudi Arabia into Pakistan and take the oil. Then, next Nuke Pakistan. Voila, problem solved!
21 posted on 04/03/2002 3:47:02 AM PST by Cronos
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To: Black Jade
And now we're prosecuting a man we should be celebrating -- Slobodan Milosevic. Why does our government support these Muslims who are out to destroy our way of life, we support the Pakistanian government and the Saudi and we have sanctions against the Serbians and we put Turkey over Armenia (don't forget nearly 2 million Armenians were massacred by the Turks)
22 posted on 04/03/2002 3:52:19 AM PST by Cronos
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To: kattracks
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23 posted on 04/03/2002 3:53:13 AM PST by foreverfree
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To: Light Speed; Black Jade

It's only business. ----------------

"Reaction to the raids suggests the Feds inflicted serious injury on the Wahhabi lobby, the Saudi-backed extremist network that largely controls Islam in America. Officials of the targeted groups as well as their non-Muslim apologists - notably GOP operative Grover Norquist, the chief enabler of Islamic extremists seeking access to the White House - have condemned the raids as civil-rights violations."

Grover Norquist------

Grover Norquist is one of the most connected members of the new right wing movement. He has close ties to the Republican Party, large U.S. business interests, and both the subsidized and regular U.S. media. He truly represents the nexus of politics, business and media.

As President of Americans for Tax Reform (ATR), Norquist helped the Heritage Foundation write the Republican's 1994 Contract With America. Shortly thereafter, Norquist led a right wing charge to "de-fund" the left, declaring that "We will hunt [these liberal groups] down one by one and extinguish their funding sources." [from Buying a Movement].

ATR, which is a 501(c)(3) charity, describes itself as "a coalition of taxpayer groups, individuals and businesses opposed to higher taxes at both the federal and state levels. ATR organizes the TAXPAYER PROTECTION PLEDGE, which asks all candidates for federal and state office to commit themselves in writing to oppose tax increases. "

ATR is funded by the Americans for Tax Reform Foundation.

Norquist was on the campaign staff on the 1988, 1992, and 1996 Republican Platform Committees, and formerly was Executive Director of the College Republicans.

He has also worked in policy positions for other Republicans, including serving on the National Commission Restructuring the Internal Revenue Service.

Adept at media appearances, Norquist writes a monthly politics column for the American Spectator magazine, and frequently speaks at regional and state think tanks of the movement.

He is also well-connected with large scale U.S. business interests, having served as economist and chief speech writer for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce (1983-1984).

24 posted on 04/03/2002 4:28:04 AM PST by rdavis84
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To: Black Jade;OKCSubmariner;Fred Mertz;archy;aristeides;kcvl
Way to go Black Jade!

We must remember that Hillarys Abdurahman Alamoudi is a relative of this Al-Amoudi!

The American Alamoudi was a part time employee of the Clinton State Department!

He also is a happy camper at the Bush White House!

All of this "Saudi Subversion" is done in plain sight,readily found by googling !

25 posted on 04/03/2002 8:16:42 AM PST by Betty Jo
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To: Black Jade
Big bump post #10
26 posted on 04/03/2002 8:22:13 AM PST by Medium Rare
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To: Black Jade
bump
27 posted on 04/03/2002 8:55:28 AM PST by mafree
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To: Black Jade
Good work and thanks for the bump note!!

I for one am tired of the kowtowing to the bloody/nasty saudis....that is why when I bought a new car last year, I bought a VERY fuel efficient one. It was my only way to get BACK at them!!

28 posted on 04/03/2002 9:06:23 AM PST by crazykatz
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To: pttttt
I gave his secretary a call...not that he will care...i$lamic$ money $peak$ to him fir$t!
29 posted on 04/03/2002 9:09:31 AM PST by crazykatz
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To: crazykatz
bump !!
30 posted on 04/03/2002 9:12:49 AM PST by timestax
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To: Black Jade; Sabertooth; Grampa Dave; veronica; weikel; dennisw
BTTT

Reaction to the raids suggests the Feds inflicted serious injury on the Wahhabi lobby, the Saudi-backed extremist network that largely controls Islam in America. Officials of the targeted groups as well as their non-Muslim apologists - notably GOP operative Grover Norquist, the chief enabler of Islamic extremists seeking access to the White House - have condemned the raids as civil-rights violations.

The Saudis offered a fraudulent "peace" plan this year intended to divert attention from their involvement in the horrors of Sept. 11.

Front groups interfacing between the Wahhabi-Saudi money movers under federal suspicion and the broader American public include two institutions active in the religious field: the International Institute of Islamic Thought (IIIT) and the Graduate School of Islamic and Social Sciences (GSISS).

He's got it down good, doesn't he? Sounds like us iin some regards, but better written. ;)

I think his talk about the Martyr's Money is the tip of the iceberg. I don't believe that a "Martyr" is necessarily a suicide bomber in the minds of the donation givers, but could be included, not reflecting well on their mentality anyway. The cover of the charities is an appeal to help whomever, but really intended to fund strife in the Caucasus and Central Asia to stop or delay competitive oil and gas production. See my comments here.

Follow the money...

Can't ignore personal corrupt aggrandizing activities too in these charity fronts, an American specialty, to wit, ripping off their own ethnicity. But recall those two charities shut down in December or January (can't remember their names.) Each had web sites indicating that they helped orphans in Chechnya, Tadjikistan, Uzbekistan, etc. It was interesting since they wholly avoided places rife with the poor, like Egypt, West Bank, Yemen, etc. I feel these American charities were fronts with an American face to get inside to these places to foment "jihad", being keeping Central Asia and the Caucasus off oil production. Profitable move by the Saudis and other OPEC beneficiaries. Highlighted by the fact that the quasi-Saudi operation "Al Qaeda" spent most of its efforts in those regions, obscured by the events of 9/11.

31 posted on 04/03/2002 10:05:10 AM PST by Shermy
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To: Shermy; ernest at the beach; travis mcgee; clovis skeptic; lady in red; *jihad in America
Shermy, thank you for the ping.

This ping is for the rest of you.

32 posted on 04/03/2002 10:11:04 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Shermy
I must get back to this and read it!
33 posted on 04/03/2002 11:06:21 AM PST by dennisw
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To: weikel
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34 posted on 04/05/2002 6:16:21 PM PST by timestax
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To: Black Jade
Thanks again!
36 posted on 04/06/2002 8:53:58 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Black Jade
Not just "SAUDI" !
37 posted on 04/06/2002 10:06:43 AM PST by Betty Jo
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To: Diogenesis, Black Jade
We know the ones that this'll be wasted on, but this is a bump for new readers. Amazing, isn't it, how short the Cycle Time is getting on the recurrence of "Deals" that involve fathers and sons. 

If we have one more generation that gets involved, it'll be monthly. The problem is diminished gene pools. They interbreed like Rats. :-)
38 posted on 04/06/2002 10:28:17 AM PST by rdavis84
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To: Black Jade
THIS IS MY FAVORITE REPLY (well, other than Debs KooK calls) FROM THAT ONE LINKED THREAD ON HARKEN ENERGY --------

"Conspirators, Fanatics, Paranoids. . . Your contributions to the election of President Bush are welcome and have, for the most part, been helpful.

However, it would be advisable for those of you harboring such melodramatic psychodrama to wait until Mr. Bush actually occupies the oval office before carving the poor fellow up with your Bin Laden collaborator tales. When we have more time, we'll be happy to carve you up in return."  Posted on 11/27/2000 19:57:31 PST by Spinoza

39 posted on 04/06/2002 10:30:02 AM PST by rdavis84
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To: Biblebelter
Saudi Arabia and Pakistan seem to me greater threats than Iraq or Iran.

It depends. They are different threats. Iraq is developing serious weaponry. Saudi is the banker. Iran may overthrow their clerics and join the modern world (because they once were there.) If we have to take them one at a time, I give Bush credit for picking the order. I trust he will not stop short of completing the job, and as you point out Pak ans SA are on the short list.

41 posted on 04/06/2002 5:10:36 PM PST by KC_for_Freedom
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To: KC_for_Freedom;dog gone;Islamic_Violence ;
Good thoughts!

To find all articles tagged or indexed using Islamic_Violence

Click here: Islamic_Violence

42 posted on 04/21/2002 6:32:44 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The involvement of GSISS with the financing of extremism is especially startling in that it alone is credentialed by the Department of Defense to certify Muslim chaplains for the U.S. armed forces. Barzinji has appeared on the boards of both.

Not good!

43 posted on 04/21/2002 6:50:36 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: kattracks
That's not all they are funding - see Are SAUDIS funding Enviro Groups and Dem Senators against ANWR?

You bet they are.

44 posted on 04/22/2002 12:49:01 AM PDT by anapikoros
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