Not Going to Take It Anymore

FreeRepublic ^ | 4/01/02 | Ben A. Conservative

[B. A. Conservative]

How many times have you heard this statement? Have you used this phrase yourself? Is FreeRepublic just a support group (form of group therapy) for burned-out or recovering conservatives much like the function served by AA for alcoholics?

I have a list of questions to which I don't have the answers, but believe that these are questions that deserve answers. If you have asked yourself more than a few of these questions or even entertained the thoughts that these questions express, then I am inviting you to participate in an exchange of ideas. I hope that enough Freepers will provide their thoughts in order that we can use your answers to end and reverse the damage that is being done to our country and our way of life by Democrats and other liberals.

I intend to provide the complete list as part of this post. I am going to post each question one at a time for its own thread. Each posting of a question will be several days apart to allow time for those willing to participate. I hope that anyone willing to participate will hold their replies to specific questions until each question is asked as a topic of its own with the first question to be posted on Thursday. I am hoping that you will use replies to this post as a means of attracting Freepers whom you know might have an interest in this discussion and the direction in which it goes. Here is the List:

1. Is the United States broken?
2. If it is broken, can it be fixed?
3. If it can be fixed, how long will it take?
4. Who will fix it?
5. Will there be opposition to fixing it?
6. Can the opposition be defeated within a reasonable period of time?
7. How long is reasonable?
8. How realistic are your expectations about whether it can be fixed?
9. How realistic are your expectations with regard to time?
10. If it can't be fixed, have you considered other solutions regarding your disappointment with the present state of affairs in the United States?
11. Could other countries offer the freedom you seek?
12. Are there other existing countries that offer more freedom than what is currently offered in the United States?
13. If one state were to secede and offer a Constitutional Republic like the one we had, would you consider living there?
14. How would the United States respond to one state's elective and voluntary peaceable declaration of its own independence from the United States?
15. Would the United States be willing to use military action including the killing of peaceful secessionists?
16. If a Boris Yeltsin took a stand in the state capitol, would the United States send in the tanks and kill him and/or his compatriots?
17. If the United States were actually willing to use force to surpress a state's secession, would you still want to live in the United States?
18. Would that be the final straw proving to any "doubting Thomas"es that the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States are now empty meaningless words that no longer have validity as ideas?
19. Would this be the proof to some that the United States is now no different from any other form of tyranny?
20. If one state successfully and peaceably seceded, would others follow?
21. Would we see groups of states organizing as regional republics competeing for citizens by offering more freedom than their neighboring nation/states?
22. Could our freedoms and liberties be restored more certainly and more quickly by forcing governments to compete with one another in an effort to please its citizens and/or prospective citizens?
23. Does the United States have a monopoly on government?
24. Is the military superiority that the United States possesses over the rest of the world sufficient reason for its citizens to sacrifice their freedoms in the interests of security?
25. Could the military strength and superiority of the United States be obtained through the equivalent of a North American Nato?
26. How can we restore our freedoms without secession?

    I suspect most Freepers share my frustrations, but have not let their thinking run as far afield as I have let mine. Quite frankly, I am not at all happy with my answers to these questions. And while this may prove to be a fool's errand, I assure you it is not intended as an April Fools. As is so common on this site, feel free to Freep This Poll.

[apochromat]

What do you think that a "borderless Information Society" will look like? Will robots do all the physical labor?

[apochromat]

I'm not sure if I'm old enough to be a "paleo-con", but I've read a lot of science fiction. Would you have a global governance to go with that borderless Information Society, are are you just going to let the Society of Boderless Information run things informally?

[apochromat]

I meant: Would you have a global governance to go with that borderless Information Society, or are you just going to let the Society of borderless Information run things informally?

[JohnGalt]

Ahh, understood. For example:

Localities would compete for citizens; governments would treat its citizens as customers rather than inmates. Citizens would choose localities that met their values but provided a competitive return on cost.

The best in each field, doctors for instance, will no longer be bound by the tyranny of location as they will be able to preform operations remotely with automated surgical rooms (GE has already created the machines.)

Out-sourcing with no geographic boundries will replace large firms with large staffs.

Just a few ideas of the changes that await...but will it be a peaceful transition or a violent one.

[Eaker]

Your quote is quite profound!!!!

I have got my eye on you waiting on the next pearl !!

Eaker

[Saundra Duffy]

God bless America. Looks like we're in the end times. We're in His Hands.

[EverOnward]

America has become a nation of sheep, tended by wolves. As long as the wolves only take one sheep at a time, the herd remains content. As long as the herd has their TV and government cheese, it will not care if the wolves take a sheep every now and then. By the time the herd realizes the danger, it will already be at the slaughterhouse.

Your message is worth posting again. You express my sentiments exactly!!!

[apochromat]

What about having global intellectual property rights?

[DAnconia55]

Why are you attributing quotes by Claire Wolfe to Che Guevera?

Because he's a veteran liar and state propagandist.

[DAnconia55]

This discussion is hopefully headed toward finding and defining Galt's Gulch. Those that have not read Atlas Shrugged, should.

It's easy to find. Just go outside on a clear night, and look up....

[DAnconia55]

I don't believe in a violent resistance.

Then you believe in being a slave.

[Texasforever]

Most folks aren't looking for freedom, that would mean others are doing things they don't like. They just want a tyranny to their liking.

From the moment there is more than one individual in a "society", that is always the case. It has always been so and always will be.

[DAnconia55]

So, as I started to say before:

Whereas...

We could actually dust off the list of grievances against King George and use some white-out.
Replace "King" with "President", and we'll have a pretty good working document...

[DAnconia55]

It has always been so and always will be.

I have never wanted such a thing.

[apochromat]

Maybe you could write a book that changes the future for the better, by using profoundly accurate projections combined with incisive logic. That might have a better chance.

[Texasforever]

I have never wanted such a thing.

Sure you do. You just want the tyranny of the minority instead of the majority.

[JohnGalt]

Not sure you need a central government to protect 'intellectual rights;' that is a logical disconnect I can not make.

[apochromat]

Not sure you need a central government to protect 'intellectual rights;' that is a logical disconnect I can not make.

I don't know. I was referring to intellectual property rights on the "borderless information". There's already a global organization for that. I believe it's called the WTO. Some countries don't belong to it, however. Would you say that the WTO is not a form of government?

[JohnGalt]

More realistically, people would choose to collect royalties through usage (say half a penny every time you read an on-line article from the Washington Post) before they would contribute to a central body like the WTO to enforce copyright protection.

[B4Ranch]

My thoughts are........The general population of the US finds that even thinking about depriving their families temporarity of security is just too horrible to consider. The man of the family refuses to discuss this subject with his friends at work because he will be labeled "weird". America will follow the route of the Jews in Germany, a small group will cause tremendous difficulties for the globalist enforcement group while the masses will quietly board the trains to their assigned positions.