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Capture of Abu Zubaydah could be serious blow to al-Qaida's attempts to reorganize
AP | 4/01/02 | JOHN J. LUMPKIN

Posted on 04/01/2002 2:26:08 PM PST by kattracks

WASHINGTON, Apr 01, 2002 (AP WorldStream via COMTEX) -- The capture of Abu Zubaydah, al-Qaida's top surviving operational commander, is one of the most significant accomplishments in the U.S. war on terrorism, officials and experts said Monday.

In Zubaydah's head are the names, faces and locations of numerous al-Qaida operatives the world over, U.S. officials say.

He may also know the hiding place of Osama bin Laden.

"It's a major, major victory, if not the biggest victory so far," said Stan Bedlington, a former senior terrorism analyst with the CIA. "He's the biggest fish that we've caught."

Pakistani authorities, in concert with the CIA and FBI, captured Zubaydah in a raid last Thursday at a compound in Faisalabad, far from the Afghan border, U.S. officials said, speaking on the condition of anonymity. Zubaydah was shot three times trying to escape - in the stomach, groin and leg - but was expected to survive, said one official.

He is in U.S. custody, but it's unclear if he remains in Pakistan.

Zubaydah acknowledged his identity, said Pakistani officials and others familiar with his capture. Other past associates have also identified the captured man as Zubaydah, U.S. officials said.

Only bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahri and Mohammed Atef ranked higher, and Atef was killed by U.S. airstrikes in November.

Zubaydah has been linked by intelligence and police officials to at least five al-Qaida terrorist plots, including the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon. The extent of his role, however, has not been fully determined.

Captured al-Qaida operatives said he organized the millennium plots to blow up Los Angeles International Airport and the Radisson SAS Hotel in Amman, Jordan, which is frequented by American tourists. Both were thwarted.

In 2000, a Jordanian military court found him guilty in absentia of conspiracy to carry out terrorist attacks and he was sentenced to death in absentia.

Zubaydah, a 31-year-old Palestinian who was born in Saudi Arabia, was also tied to thwarted plots to blow up the U.S. embassies in Paris and in Sarajevo, Bosnia-Herzegovina, after Sept. 11. U.S. officials say they are investigating his links to the attacks on the USS Cole and the bombings of the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.

Despite his prominence, the FBI never named him as a "most wanted" terrorist. He is also known as Zain al-Abidin Muhahhad Husain.

"We've followed him for a very long time - a very dangerous character," National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice said in a recent interview with The Associated Press.

Since the United States attacked Afghanistan, Zubaydah has led an effort to reorganize al-Qaida in Pakistan. Financial transfers and intercepted communications suggested he was directing attempts to conduct new terrorist attacks against U.S. interests, U.S. officials have said.

Officials cautioned that Zubaydah's arrest, while a major blow to al-Qaida, does not end the group's threat. Cells are still operating, and the group has several other leaders capable of organizing them.

Bedlington suggested Zubaydah's high position in al-Qaida may have given him access to bin Laden's post-Sept. 11 plans - including his hideouts and how to contact him. That's information U.S. intelligence can exploit, if Zubaydah talks, Bedlington said.

Think of him as a "choke point" between bin Laden's will and actual terrorist attacks, said Vince Cannistraro, a former senior CIA counterterrorism chief. Where bin Laden and al-Zawahri would set policy, Zubaydah would implement it. U.S. officials said when the inner circle would call for a bombing of an embassy, Zubaydah would select the embassy, cell and method of attack.

"He was the guy that had the direct contact with prominent al-Qaida cell leaders abroad, and he knew where they all were," he said. "He would have been the guy coordinating new attacks."

His contacts with cells came through his role as a recruiter in the group. Prospective recruits would meet Zubaydah in Pakistan, who would assign them to camps. When they finished training, he put them in cells overseas.

Ahmed Ressam, convicted in April 2001 of smuggling, terrorist conspiracy and other charges in connection with the Los Angeles plot, described Zubaydah's role during court testimony.

"He is the person in charge of the camps. He receives young men from all countries. He accepts you or rejects you. And he takes care of the expenses for the camps. He makes arrangements for you when you travel coming in or leaving," Ressam said.

By JOHN J. LUMPKIN Associated Press Writer

Copyright 2002 Associated Press, All rights reserved





TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 04/01/2002 2:26:08 PM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
Kat this GREAT NEWS!!!!!
2 posted on 04/01/2002 2:28:47 PM PST by Dr.Johnny Fever
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To: Dr.Johnny Fever
Keep him away from ledges and shower stalls. Ready the IV drip. All rules of engagement have to be suspended against these devils.
3 posted on 04/01/2002 2:31:28 PM PST by kinghorse
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To: kattracks
I wonder how much persuasion it will take to make him talk?
4 posted on 04/01/2002 2:31:32 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: Dr.Johnny Fever
In Zubaydah's head are the names, faces and locations of numerous al-Qaida operatives the world over . . .

He is in U.S. custody, but it's unclear if he remains in Pakistan.

I'm sure Mr. Putin could recommend some highly skilled former KGB agents to extract information if we ask him nicely.

5 posted on 04/01/2002 2:32:48 PM PST by Rubber Ducky
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To: kattracks
Skin him like a potato; he'll talk. Time to take the gloves off; its them or us.
6 posted on 04/01/2002 2:35:20 PM PST by LaGrone
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To: kattracks
Recent Washington Post article which seemed to demonstrate that many top Queda and Taliban have been killed or captured, was written from the perspective that few have been caught so far. This ties in with the Dem strategy of claiming the succesful war is a "failure" if Bin Laden not caught.
7 posted on 04/01/2002 2:36:39 PM PST by Williams
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To: kattracks
Not so great news! Why would we be told he has been captured? After being shot three times, the information we might obtain could be increased by application of the proper medicinal chemicals. All the American haters in the world and in the Senate will now be urging his public recovery. He should have been quietly taken to Diego Garcia where doctors and chemists from the CIA would help him recover his strength and memory. His former colleagues would be far more vulnerable if they did not know that he was being treated by Americans. Why was this kind of info even confirmed, much less announced?
8 posted on 04/01/2002 2:37:35 PM PST by Tacis
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To: Paleo Conservative
The more 'hard core' Al Quida members aren't talking at Camp XRay. I doubt this twit will talk either.
9 posted on 04/01/2002 2:40:32 PM PST by homeschool mama
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To: Paleo Conservative
I wonder how much persuasion it will take to make him talk?

Who cares? If he's a vegetable after they've finished extracting all of the information, so be it. He can spend the rest of his life in Pampers hooked up to a feeding tube.

10 posted on 04/01/2002 2:40:32 PM PST by COBOL2Java
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To: kattracks
"That's information U.S. intelligence can exploit, if Zubaydah talks, Bedlington said."

LOL. IF?

11 posted on 04/01/2002 2:41:23 PM PST by blam
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To: Tacis
My guess is that, in the absence of the kill/capture of bin Laden, some progress needs to be reported for political reasons. The democrats are unscrupulous, even while we are at war, in their criticisms of Bush. And we have a long way to go before the elections... I imagine it will get a lot worse.
12 posted on 04/01/2002 2:44:40 PM PST by TheEngineer
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To: kattracks
In Zubaydah's head are the names, faces and locations of numerous al-Qaida operatives the world over, U.S. officials say.
Instantly outdated thanks to the press. Quick, get his info! Quick!
13 posted on 04/01/2002 2:45:44 PM PST by a_Turk
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To: Tacis
Why was this kind of info even confirmed, much less announced?

Probably because the belief that we have the technology and/or the ability and/or the will to extract whatever we want out of this turd is worth a great deal in psyops.

14 posted on 04/01/2002 2:47:37 PM PST by COBOL2Java
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To: COBOL2Java
Probably because the belief that we have the technology and/or the ability and/or the will to extract whatever we want out of this turd is worth a great deal in psyops.

Got your 410. The quail are up.

15 posted on 04/01/2002 2:51:03 PM PST by Stentor
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To: kattracks
looks like we'll get to have one of them thar military tribunals after all.
16 posted on 04/01/2002 2:51:47 PM PST by The Vast Right Wing
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To: COBOL2Java
Think about it one second.......we got the middle man between Bin Laden and Zawahari and the al-Qaeda troops...

This will force Bin Laden to run......and watch the terror cell's start to get rolled up...

17 posted on 04/01/2002 2:55:00 PM PST by Dr.Johnny Fever
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To: The Vast Right Wing
looks like we'll get to have one of them thar military tribunals after all.

I think after we've got what we need out of the weasel there won't be enough brain activity left for him to be able to testify.

18 posted on 04/01/2002 3:01:27 PM PST by COBOL2Java
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To: Dr.Johnny Fever
I don't think that OBL's bits and pieces that assumed cave temp last Dec will be running anywhere.

However, this is a great capture. Just load this Clymer up with Versed IV, and he will talk and talk and talk and never remember a thing he said or was questioned about. Then turn him back over the Paky's to "handle". We have enough of his kind in Gitmo and Johnny Jihad to last us a longtime.

19 posted on 04/01/2002 3:02:45 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Dr.Johnny Fever
Actually turn him over to Jordan. The Jordanians have tried him and have ordered a death sentence for him. The Jordanians will handle him after his Versed Iv talkathon.
20 posted on 04/01/2002 3:05:23 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: blam
>"That's information U.S. intelligence can exploit, if Zubaydah talks, Bedlington said."

So Zubaydah, you have chosen the way of pain!

21 posted on 04/01/2002 3:09:16 PM PST by Dialup Llama
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To: kattracks
Hiding out far from the Pastun tribal areas, in the heart of Pakistan, a police state cooperating with the US, trying to "reconstitute" al-Qaeda, a move that would necessarily leave financial and electronic footprints??? Maybe these guys aren't as smart as we thought, or perhaps they've lost a lot their capabilities.
22 posted on 04/01/2002 3:09:56 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Tacis
Why was this kind of info even confirmed, much less announced?

Your points being taken, there is value in letting the enemy know he can not hide forever, that we will hunt him down, that we will find him, that no place is safe. It keeps them constantly in hiding or on the run. While not a physical 'kill', it accomplishes a mission kill, rendering Al Qiada inneffective. It buys us time to root them out. Knowing what this guy knows, many terrorists may be spooked into running now, putting them in the open for us to catch. Just some rational for this.

23 posted on 04/01/2002 3:12:12 PM PST by Magnum44
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To: Grampa Dave
Just load this Clymer up with Versed IV, and he will talk and talk and talk and never remember a thing he said or was questioned about.

Sounds like good stuff. Here's some info on the drug

24 posted on 04/01/2002 3:15:29 PM PST by COBOL2Java
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To: kattracks
Excellent News!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
25 posted on 04/01/2002 3:18:55 PM PST by Reborn
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To: Dark Wing
ping
27 posted on 04/01/2002 3:21:57 PM PST by Thud
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To: kinghorse
Don't let the French have him.

"Keep him away from ledges and shower stalls.

28 posted on 04/01/2002 3:22:48 PM PST by Thud
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To: kattracks
Good work you wonderful American soldiers.
29 posted on 04/01/2002 3:29:58 PM PST by swampfox98
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To: kattracks

Apu?

30 posted on 04/01/2002 3:32:24 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: COBOL2Java
Thanks for the link: I sold this stuff for years before retiring, and it is the ultimate truth serum. Ludlum in his latest book infact labeled it as such.

This is from the link you provided: How do you know if it works: The patient will be calm, pain free, but able to follow directions. Speech will be slurred, patient will be drowsy, motor movements will be sluggish. Memory of the procedure will be blocked.

So there is no need to torture these clymers, just iv them with a slow Versed continuous drip or by an infusion pump. They will be calm, pain free and will follow directions and answer all questions. Then, they will not remember being asked

The patients receiving Versed have amnesia during the procedures. They really talk after the procedures and still have no memory of what they said or what was asked of them.

31 posted on 04/01/2002 3:34:10 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Paleo Conservative
I wonder how much persuasion it will take to make him talk

Not to worry ... the Pentagon has been working on a new interrogation system since last December. See the prototype below (electrodes not shown):


32 posted on 04/01/2002 3:37:41 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody
Looks like Johnny Jihad there...
33 posted on 04/01/2002 3:41:14 PM PST by COBOL2Java
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To: *TerrorWar;*SouthAsia_list;Black Jade
Check the Bump List folders for articles related to and descriptions of the above topic(s) or for other topics of interest.
34 posted on 04/01/2002 3:52:03 PM PST by Free the USA
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To: kattracks
Spark up the field telephone generator, fill me a bucket with salt water, heat up the vise grips in the fire...

It's time to have a party. If this asshole talks before we're done with him, so much the better...

35 posted on 04/01/2002 3:54:31 PM PST by LouD
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To: LouD
>Spark up the field telephone generator, fill me a bucket with salt water, heat up the vise grips in the fire...

A traditionalist I see. From the other posts, FR seems to recommend a Versed Iv for all your interrogation needs.

36 posted on 04/01/2002 3:56:32 PM PST by Dialup Llama
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To: Grampa Dave
A slightly earlier report by this same AP reporter, Lumpkin, Pakistan Hands Over Senior Al-Qaida Leader Zubaydah to United States, contained this further claim:

A senior Pakistani intelligence officer told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity that the man believed to be Zubaydah is among about 20 Arabs to be flown to the U.S. naval base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where hundreds of al-Qaida and Taliban prisoners are detained.

This later report seems to go back on that claim. However, it is possible that the senior Pakistani intelligence officer was deceived about the plane's destination. Your suggestion about Jordan may be right. Remember that Yemeni microbiology student that was handed over to American authorities at Karachi airport late last year? A recent Washington Post article reported that he was flown in a Learjet to Jordan.

37 posted on 04/01/2002 4:00:09 PM PST by aristeides
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To: kattracks
Good Hunting lads!!!!

I am pumped on this news. As the article said, this guy has a good percentage of the Al Qaida's network layout and stratedgy in his head. Let's see if we can't get that info out.
38 posted on 04/01/2002 4:00:26 PM PST by freeasinbeer
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To: Dr.Johnny Fever
>...we got the middle man between Bin Laden and Zawahari and the al-Qaeda troops...

As these are Pashtuns, the term middle man must be clarified.

39 posted on 04/01/2002 4:01:25 PM PST by Dialup Llama
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To: Dialup Llama
bump for a good get
40 posted on 04/01/2002 4:03:09 PM PST by rbmillerjr
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To: freeasinbeer
There is a reason that his wearabouts are unkonwn. Right now, members of the ISI are in a dimly lit locked room with this guy, working him over as the CIA/FBI wait patiently on the other side of the mirror.

We can't perform torture, but guess what? The ISI surely can. And he will never see the light of day. This guys is a guaranteed military tribunal. If this guy is ID'd properly they must use any means necessary to make him talk IMO.
41 posted on 04/01/2002 4:04:02 PM PST by freeasinbeer
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To: kattracks
This also means Musharaff and the Paks are playing it our way, despite occasional evidence to the contrary.

THAT is big.

42 posted on 04/01/2002 4:09:07 PM PST by Ahban
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To: Ahban
This also means Musharaff and the Paks are playing it our way, despite occasional evidence to the contrary. THAT is big.

I am glad someone made this observation.

43 posted on 04/01/2002 4:30:55 PM PST by Magnum44
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To: Paleo Conservative
I wonder how much persuasion it will take to make him talk?

Maybe a sulferic acid drip on his eyes?

44 posted on 04/01/2002 4:45:54 PM PST by irish_lad
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To: COBOL2Java
He Should be returned to "Al Queda Headquarters"--"in Pampers With a Feeding Tube."

The Psychopaths who trusted him should be Forever Terrified by his condition--& what he MAY have confessed!!

He should have, "You're NEXT!" tatooed on his forehead & Ass!!

His Drooling, Mindless visage should Dominate "Al-Jazeera" broadcasts, along with a "Generic message" that America is TRULY PISSED OFF & regards cooperation with Al Queda as tantamount to a Declaration of War against America.

Considering the Barbarism of our "enemies," we are willing to use "ANY MEANS" to defend ourselves!

Since "Islam" refuses to respect us, we must NOW cause it to FEAR US!

Apparently, the ONLY LANGUAGE the Terrorists of Radical Islam understand is POWER! THEREFORE, we must demonstrate to these deluded psychotics that they are "outgunned!"

The "Psychotic, Destructive antics" of "Radical Islam" ENRAGE "The West," & Further Harden the "Western Culture's" determination to "Dominate Human History!"

As Human History now stands, there will be NO "Islamic Colonies" on the Moon or Mars.

Current "Islam" is an "Anchor around the Neck of Human Progress!"

Sad.

Doc

45 posted on 04/01/2002 4:46:29 PM PST by Doc On The Bay
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To: aristeides
Thanks for the feedback. It is so hard to tell what is the truth when it comes out from those camel droppings wraps posing as newspapers.

If he has gone to Jordan, that will be it. Jordon has zero tolerance for terrorists and settles scores with them. He has a death sentence on his head, and it will be carried out if he returns to Jordan

I had forgot about the micro biology student. I imagine he is long gone by now.

With our ACLU lawyers, the lust of our pressitutes for the al Qeada thugs, and the pseudo conservatives here who support these killers, it is best not bring them here. Let one of the countries over there handle the garbage after we get the information from them.

46 posted on 04/01/2002 5:18:05 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Texaggie79
"Apu is a fictional character who is Indian, Hindu, and definitely non-Muslim."

...A spokesman for the National Quickie-Mart Association, revealed, earlier today....

While standing next to a number of rather nervous-looking representatives of the Sikh, Latino, Roma, Micronesian, Polynesian, Macronesian, Sicilian, Corsican and Cretan communities...

(With a few stray, assorted other half-breeds and 100% red-blooded Americans with marriage, friendship or neighborly ties to those kind of people, according to the best estimates of the FBI authorities and other Homeland Security official deputized individuals who were present.)

47 posted on 04/01/2002 5:41:12 PM PST by MoJoWork_n
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To: Doc On The Bay
LOL. I like the way you think. MTR.
48 posted on 04/01/2002 5:42:39 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: Paleo Conservative
Ted Olson: "Hold on a minute, folks, the people from Mossad are here."
49 posted on 04/01/2002 6:15:46 PM PST by hchutch
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To: Paleo Conservative
Basic life support, as well as:
Sledge hammer
ice pick and ice
tourniquet
gasoline and hypodermic

An intellegence Medical Doctor...

That should suffice

50 posted on 04/01/2002 6:40:08 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2
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