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BRITISH JOURNALIST: Yes, Clinton Raped a Second Woman
source withheld ^ | 4-3-02 | Doug from Upland

Posted on 04/03/2002 9:04:44 PM PST by doug from upland

Today I spent about 6 hours with a British journalist, now living in the U.S. We were joined for dinner by a mutual friend. The journalist, whose name I am withholding, has impeccable credentials and is in town for about a week on business. No, it is not Ambrose Evans Pritchard.

Both of these gentlemen did extensive research into the criminality of Bill Clinton. They have reviewed many documents from various law enforcement agencies and interviewed many people with first hand knowledge. Yes, it is as bad as we always have said it was.

Over dinner, I had the opportunity to grill my source and relive many of the Clinton moments. He was amazed when I brought up things he'd forgotten.

Mr. Source was very candid, and I wanted to share with you the biggest bombshell of the evening.

On this forum and at the FReeper Victory Brunch last year, I charged that Clinton raped another woman in addition to Juanita Broaddrick (and how many others, we wonder -- can you say Eileen Wellstone?). It happened during his first term as governor and the woman was treated at the hospital after being smashed in the face. Mr. Source confirmed what I had learned from another source. He interviewed a nurse who was at the hospital at the time. The woman said that the perpetrator, who hit and raped her, was none other than the Governor of Arkansas, William Jefferson Clinton. The doctor involved was scared to death and would not go on the record and be interviewed.

America, particularly you RATS, are you so afraid to face the truth? Do you feel it would make you look foolish? Would it erode the strength of the RAT party if everyone know they protected a rapist?

I guess those are silly questions. DemocRATS have no shame. It didn't matter that Clinton severely damaged our security, treated the White House like a whore house, committed perjury many times, and actually raped women. He's their guy and it is easier to blame those who brought the crimes to light than blame the criminal. Facing the truth would do too much damage. What disgusting lowlifes. All of them.

Oh, yes, I should not leave this out. Vince Foster did not kill himself in that park. Clinton personally knows the man who killed Jerry Parks. Clinton really was treated for a severe nose problem because of cocaine use. There really was a security tape showing Clinton going into Gennifer Flowers' apartment with his own key. Her audio tapes, in which he instructed her to lie, were not doctored. And my source outed David Brock on a radio show.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: clinton; clintonhaters; clintonscandals; evil; perjurer; psychopath; rapist; scumbag; traitor; tyrant
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1 posted on 04/03/2002 9:04:44 PM PST by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland
Dude, you've been on fire the last couple nights!

BIG bump for DFU's great research on the scummiest person to EVER live in the White House.

2 posted on 04/03/2002 9:11:52 PM PST by Henchster
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To: doug from upland
great stuff and from you...credible....but know by as well,for years....no free world citizen has escaped more crimes than one William Blythe Clinton et al and her/it too.
3 posted on 04/03/2002 9:13:10 PM PST by cactusSharp
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To: doug from upland
Damn! And Chris Matthews has the audacity to call *his* show "Hardball". Imagine Doug opposite him on FOX News...
4 posted on 04/03/2002 9:13:47 PM PST by BushMeister
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To: doug from upland
Keep up the good work Doug.
5 posted on 04/03/2002 9:15:09 PM PST by LarryLied
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To: doug from upland
Clinton's personality profile and the experience reported by various women he was involved with, strongly indicated he raped several women. Many of them were righfully too intimidated by his official position to report it. Some were apparently in such a state of shock that they couldn't believe what happened. No woman he has ever been reported as being involved with has come out of it whole. Hillary was a distorted personality to begin with such that his actions don't bother her. His speaking fees are now as high as $300,000 a night. He's solidly booked up by legions of worshippers.
6 posted on 04/03/2002 9:16:10 PM PST by RLK
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To: doug from upland
Does anyone consider how sketchy these stories are? By no means am I a Clinton fan, but here we have a story related by a person (whose integrity I am certainly not questioning) quoting an unnamed source, who quotes another unnamed source as saying an unnamed woman accused a well-known figure of a criminal act many years ago. That's not to say it's a lie, but it can hardly be considered fact.

I believe the reason the majority of the American public ignored Clinton's true, documented crimes is because of the huge amount of allegations that amount to nothing more than anonymous hearsay.

That being said, kudos to you for at least attempting to get some documentation here.
7 posted on 04/03/2002 9:19:24 PM PST by BostonGuy
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To: doug from upland
I'll never forget the NAG lawyer who had him pen a forward to her book on women lawyers. Yeah its sign of women's rights when a rapist is the one defending women's achievements. NOW is willing to do whatever it can to ride on the backs of women and even today it has no shame in being associated with Bill Clinton.
8 posted on 04/03/2002 9:19:33 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: doug from upland
THEY CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH! Can you get a conviction, or was it an exercise in futility?
9 posted on 04/03/2002 9:19:55 PM PST by swheats
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To: LarryLied
Note: I actually did get a few hours of business done today and am about to write an offer on some commercial property. I need more hours in the day.
10 posted on 04/03/2002 9:20:14 PM PST by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland
Clinton literally paid the professional feminists to look the other way. They've been screaming "rape" for two decades. They've said all sex is rape, marriage is rape. What do they do, when faced with a lip-biting, face smashing rapist? Take the money and run.
11 posted on 04/03/2002 9:21:47 PM PST by Kermit
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To: BostonGuy
I appreciate your comments. I'm relating what I know from someone I trust. That's the best I can do. I wish the journalists who get paid for doing this stuff would go get the story.
12 posted on 04/03/2002 9:23:47 PM PST by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland; Mudboy Slim; Landru
DemocRATS have no shame. It didn't matter that Clinton severely damaged our security, treated the White House like a whore house, committed perjury many times, and actually raped women. He's their guy and it is easier to blame those who brought the crimes to light than blame the criminal. Facing the truth would do too much damage. What disgusting lowlifes. All of them.

Great report DFU! Mud, shall we file this in the "Black" thread?

13 posted on 04/03/2002 9:25:49 PM PST by sultan88
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To: BostonGuy
I think Doug had good reasons for with holding the identity of the journalist. Still, there's no denying it fits a pattern. For Clinton, women live to service his needs first and foremost and he has no respect for them as people in their own right. And if they threaten him or they're perceived to, he does his outmost to tarnish and destroy their repuations. We all know how corrupt our Congress is and David Schippers couldn't believe hearing from a prominent U.S Senator to effect, "yeah even if he raped or murdered a woman, he still wouldn't be convicted." Clinton's legacy is corrupting every one around him. He only proved what his critics discovered in his character. Yes, he was a very talented person who could have achieved a great deal as President, but he chose to throw it all away in a reckless affair AND in breaking the laws of this country. He will be remembered forever as the Great Impeached.
14 posted on 04/03/2002 9:27:17 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: doug from upland
Now that he doesn't, "...have to get back to the job the American people elected (him) to do,"
he should be asked about this again.
15 posted on 04/03/2002 9:32:55 PM PST by onedoug
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To: doug from upland
Most true thing Paula Jones ever said: "He gets away with everything." He does, he did, and he will.
16 posted on 04/03/2002 9:32:58 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: doug from upland
Good work, Doug!
17 posted on 04/03/2002 9:36:08 PM PST by nutmeg
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To: firebrand; StarFan; Dutchy; OneidaM; DoctorRaoul; RaceBannon; evilC
FYI
18 posted on 04/03/2002 9:37:10 PM PST by nutmeg
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To: goldstategop; doug from upland; Alamo-Girl
women people live to service his needs first and foremost and he has no respect for them

I have always found it so ironic that x42 idolized JFK and yet his whole public life has epitomized the exact opposite of perhaps Kennedy's most famous quote -- "Ask not what your country can do for you but ask what you can do for your country."

For x42, it's always the other way around. He interprets everything in terms of how it affects the legacy he wishes he had.

DFU ~~~ one of the amazing things to me is that no one is willing to do the right thing and tell the truth. It is almost unfathomable that he has such a hold on people that none of those associated with him, willingly or otherwise, dares to speak out. I keep telling myself that there must be a way to reach these people; but, alas, it seems not to be ..... for now at least. The VRWC can't hold a candle to the VLWC!!!

Keep up the good work, though! There simply has to be a weak link in the chain somewhere ..... and when that person is found, the whole chain may well break into pieces.

19 posted on 04/03/2002 9:42:34 PM PST by kayak
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To: all
I was vague in this story to protect the journalist who now has business interests in this country. He talked to me candidly based on my promise to him. It will be honored, and if that is not good enough for some of you, I certainly understand. Because he interviewed the nurse who was there at the hospital, I thought the story was worthy of this post. He is the second person who has given me this information.
20 posted on 04/03/2002 9:44:33 PM PST by doug from upland
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To: kayak
What happened to the people who crossed him and came forward? IRS audits? Personal destruction. Some even dead.

Besides the threats of harm, just look at all the people who Clinton chose to be around him. Most of them are partisan hacks or just downright compromised. A bar bouncer in charge of White House security. A lying weasel like Blumenthal. Drunken young girl predator Janet Reno. Joycelyn Elders. Chester James Carville. It is the bar scene in Star Wars.

21 posted on 04/03/2002 9:48:25 PM PST by doug from upland
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To: M. Thatcher
All you right wing wackos are going to have to find somebody else to pick on. Bill Clinton didn`t do any of those bad things. No rape, no battery, no cover ups, and no $ for pardons. He tried as hard as he could to get Ben Lotless and Bill personally stopped 1256 potential terrorist acts. So you all better stop telling lies about Bill. And lies they are, because Bill denied every one and we all know that BILL Clinton ALWAYS tells the truth.
22 posted on 04/03/2002 9:49:47 PM PST by bybybill
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To: doug from upland
Many thanks for this post.
23 posted on 04/03/2002 9:51:11 PM PST by aculeus
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To: doug from upland
<----checking blood pressure
24 posted on 04/03/2002 9:53:14 PM PST by Outraged
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To: onedoug
Now that he doesn't, "...have to get back to the job the American people elected (him) to do," he should be asked about this again.

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The reason why getting the truth out is important was very evident while listening to the Bill Handel show on KFI in Los Angeles. That SOB was claiming that 9-11 happened because the right wing pursued unjustified impeachment of Clinton and prevented him from doing his job.

That's why this stuff is still important.

25 posted on 04/03/2002 9:53:39 PM PST by doug from upland
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To: M. Thatcher
"He gets away with everything." He does, he did, and he will.

Dear M. Thatcher, he WILL NOT get away with everything. I cannot tell you how or when, but the price he will ultimately pay for his perfidy will be steep. Just as 2+2=4, so the bill will come due and will have to be paid. We will live to see it, and we will marvel and tremble in fear. "There but for the grace of God, go I."

26 posted on 04/03/2002 9:54:33 PM PST by WillaJohns
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To: MiaT
I thought you might enjoy this.
27 posted on 04/03/2002 9:56:26 PM PST by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland
I absolutely believe this, no problem. I live in the Southern Mo. Ozarks where people know BJC from "before."

Elizabeth Ward Gracen was the young British woman whose complaint against him got him sent home from Oxford, if I remember correctly. This is a long-standing pattern of bad behavior with x42.

28 posted on 04/03/2002 9:56:55 PM PST by Judith Anne
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To: *ClintonScandals;*Clinton Haters

29 posted on 04/03/2002 9:57:24 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: WillaJohns
the price he will ultimately pay for his perfidy will be steep. Just as 2+2=4, so the bill will come due and will have to be paid. We will live to see it

I would love you to be right. However, I don't expect Clinton to get what he deserves in this life.

30 posted on 04/03/2002 9:59:28 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: doug from upland
This explains why the wicked don't like truth.

Amplified Ver.
John 3
18 He who believes in Him [who clings to, trusts in, relies on Him] is not judged [he who trusts in Him never comes up for judgment; for him there is no rejection, no condemnation--he incurs no damnation]; but he who does not believe (cleave to, rely on, trust in Him) is judged already [he has already been convicted and has already received his sentence] because he has not believed in and trusted in the name of the only begotten Son of God. [He is condemned for refusing to let his trust rest in Christ's name.]
19 The [basis of the] judgment (indictment, the test by which men are judged, the ground for the sentence) lies in this: the Light has come into the world, and people have loved the darkness rather than and more than the Light, for their works (deeds) were evil.
20 For every wrongdoer hates (loathes, detests) the Light, and will not come out into the Light but shrinks from it, lest his works (his deeds, his activities, his conduct) be exposed and reproved.

31 posted on 04/03/2002 10:00:16 PM PST by Russell Scott
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To: Judith Anne
Actually, Eileen Wellstone is the one he met in the English pub and then assaulted. That got him booted from Oxford and the country. Hmmmm, I wonder if my friend can get me some sourced info on that. Wouldn't that be interesting.

The rape of this woman and the rape of Juanita Broaddrick were Hillary's two greatest fears in 1992. Let's hope they are sufficiently exposed and believed before the RAT party nominates her for president.

32 posted on 04/03/2002 10:00:18 PM PST by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland
Multiply by 5. I read somewhere that 80% of rapes go unreported. We should find out about more in the future... maybe even some new ones now that he has full access to drugs and viagra.
33 posted on 04/03/2002 10:01:24 PM PST by John Jamieson
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To: doug from upland
I BELIEVE EVERY WORD OF IT!

I'm sure "his wife" knows NOTHING! /sarcasm
Evita did become a Senator and would like to be President but KNOWS NOTHING when it comes to "her husband" raping women. I'm also sure that all those "friends" in Arkansas and elsewhere DON'T have a clue about the creep! /sarcasm

Do you really think the media doesn't know about any of this? Just like they NEVER asked Clinton about Juanita after his attorney denied it for him. Do you think a Republican would get by with that? NO! They were and are still protecting the jerk! And, also "his wife" EVITA!

If anyone wonders why this country is in the mess it's in today I would suggest taking a look at what was running it for eight long years. Also take a look at the cowards in Congress who refused to REMOVE him from office while KNOWING what a corrupt liar he is. Could it be that most of them also have something to hide? We would all be in jail if we did half of what one of them got away with on a daily basis. They all make me sick!

34 posted on 04/03/2002 10:01:37 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Judith Anne
When X42 dies the victims will come out of the woodwork with their stories !
35 posted on 04/03/2002 10:01:43 PM PST by america-rules
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To: doug from upland
Did the victim get to a hospital for a semen test? Could be a fine missing link if it were ever matched to the blue dress!

One senator who read the Clinton dossier prior to the Senate trial (it was held under lock and key, only one senator could read it at a time, under the eyes of a guard--no notes could be taken) claimed that he was physically sick after reading the information on Clinton which the Senate, House, and investigators knew but could never make public. The least he would say, in summing it up, was that we had a psychopathic predator for a President. This senator voted to remove--shame on those who were too timid to do right when they saw wrong (eh, Mr. Lott?)!

36 posted on 04/03/2002 10:04:30 PM PST by MHT
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To: doug from upland
How long did Comrade Clinton actually serve...uh...stay in Moscow following his English dalliances?
37 posted on 04/03/2002 10:05:22 PM PST by onedoug
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To: doug from upland
It is the bar scene in Star Wars.

LOL! I've always thought that his Cabinet could collectively hire themselves out for the side-show at the circus. A cross-section of America ... HA! You have to hunt far and wide to find a group of people that .. er .. unique.

I had hoped that once he was out of office, his power would weaken to the point that someone would grow half a spine and come forward. I guess by now they all have enough dirt on each other that they can't speak out ..... and character is not even in their dictionary much less their vocabulary.

38 posted on 04/03/2002 10:05:40 PM PST by kayak
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To: doug from upland, Howlin
Did it happen in Arkansas? Was the hospital in Little Rock? I would love to get the information for myself since there doesn't seem to be a "reporter" that's willing to do it.
39 posted on 04/03/2002 10:12:01 PM PST by kcvl
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To: kayak
his Cabinet could collectively hire themselves out for the side-show at the circus

Then TRY to imagine a Hillary Cabinet(don't do it before bedtime or you'll have nightmares)!

40 posted on 04/03/2002 10:15:29 PM PST by kcvl
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To: kcvl
It happened in Arkansas. I do not know which hospital.
41 posted on 04/03/2002 10:17:33 PM PST by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland
Why would this 'British journalist' elect to not publish this story and give you this scoop instead?
42 posted on 04/03/2002 10:18:01 PM PST by yazd
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To: doug from upland
Oh, right! Oldtimer's strikes again! Gracen is the former Miss America or something, and she stated the sex was consensual.
43 posted on 04/03/2002 10:18:02 PM PST by Judith Anne
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To: doug from upland
These alleged sexual assaults fit right in with so many other elements of his personality. The constant womanizing, his legendary mesmerizing one-on-one charm (even worked on Nixon-no star-struck fan), his insatiable addiction to the spotlight-even now. This is a man so in need of affirmation that he becomes dangerous if he doesn't get it. Tremendously insecure. The presidency was the ultimate compensation. Were it not for the damage he has done to the nation, he would be quite pitiful.
44 posted on 04/03/2002 10:21:28 PM PST by Jeff Chandler
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To: doug from upland
Reply to post #1: There's no such thing as a rapist who only rapes one woman unless he gets caught the first time and is sentenced to life in prison without parole. All rapists are serial rapists.
45 posted on 04/03/2002 10:22:24 PM PST by A6M3
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To: yazd
He is currently working on other business interests rather than journalism.
46 posted on 04/03/2002 10:26:23 PM PST by doug from upland
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To: kayak
Recall that Donna Shalala was apparently outraged that he lied to her. But did she resign? No.
47 posted on 04/03/2002 10:28:21 PM PST by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland
He is currently working on other business interests rather than journalism.

BOTH of them?
48 posted on 04/03/2002 10:28:52 PM PST by yazd
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To: yazd
Both of them are working on business interests. This is not a scoop. The journalist actually interviewed the nurse the radio years ago but no one would report it in mainstream media.
49 posted on 04/03/2002 10:31:44 PM PST by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland
I always felt that her outrage was a cold, calculated plan to give him "cover" ..... she was probably just outraged that it wasn't her. Yikes! Talk about a nightmare scenario!
50 posted on 04/03/2002 10:33:44 PM PST by kayak
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