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Speedy Gonzales: Banned In the USA
Hispanic Online ^ | 3/27/02 | Virginia Cueto

Posted on 04/05/2002 2:09:00 PM PST by TMC_13

Cartoon Network officals have bannished Speedy Gonzales from their prime-time line-ups for fear of offending Mexican Americans, but fans of the Mexican mouse hero are fighting back.


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1 posted on 04/05/2002 2:09:00 PM PST by TMC_13
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To: TMC_13
That's the last straw! Put me on an ice flow and push me out to sea.
2 posted on 04/05/2002 2:19:11 PM PST by Hitlerys uterus
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To: TMC_13
Ted Turner had Kofi Annan over for dinner again
3 posted on 04/05/2002 2:22:26 PM PST by Governor StrangeReno
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To: Hitlerys uterus
i heard they banned speedy - i also read he can only be seen on univsion (the mexican station) and apparently he's very popular with mexicans

i'm scottish and my favorite Simpson's character is Willy the groundskeeper, even though he's not too bright
just another example of PC run amok
4 posted on 04/05/2002 2:22:55 PM PST by BronzePencil
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To: Hitlerys uterus
Or you could just go to Latin America/Mexico. He's still on those versions of Cartoon Network. They love him.
5 posted on 04/05/2002 2:22:59 PM PST by Obi-Wandreas
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To: TMC_13
It's racist to have Speedy Gonzales on TV.
It's racist to not have Speedy Gonzales on TV.
Go figure.
6 posted on 04/05/2002 2:24:20 PM PST by aught-6
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To: Hitlerys uterus
Perhaps we could ban morons from watching any TV at all?

Wait until they see the old episodes of the Super Friends. Black LIghtning and Apache Cheif are SO insensitive!

7 posted on 04/05/2002 2:24:38 PM PST by Arioch7
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To: TMC_13
How about Speedy's cousin, Slow-Poke Rodriguez?

Nam Vet

8 posted on 04/05/2002 2:26:16 PM PST by Nam Vet
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To: TMC_13
NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
9 posted on 04/05/2002 2:26:41 PM PST by roylene
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To: Nam Vet
LOL!!! FAT ALBERT MUST GO!!! I always KNEW Cosby was a bigot!
10 posted on 04/05/2002 2:27:21 PM PST by Arioch7
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To: TMC_13
Viva Speedy!
11 posted on 04/05/2002 2:35:14 PM PST by codebreaker
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To: TMC_13
I can't stand news like this. I am stil in mourning over the loss of the Frito Bandito.
12 posted on 04/05/2002 2:45:44 PM PST by Kerberos
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To: TMC_13
So does this mean that they'll start showing Speedy on Telemundo?
13 posted on 04/05/2002 3:06:39 PM PST by Redcloak
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To: TMC_13
I would have thought that the reason was that he isn't funny. Not as bad as Pepe LePew but close.
14 posted on 04/05/2002 3:11:23 PM PST by perez24
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To: TMC_13
Poor, poor Speedy. Cast out of society for being too Mexican.....wait a minute....TOO MEXICAN?
There's a limit on behaving Mexican? Well, that's new.
How Mexican can Mexicans be now?
15 posted on 04/05/2002 3:13:24 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: concerned about politics
if this is the world I am coming back to, what's the point? First movies, then the news, now cartoons. What's next? The coyote not being able to use ACME products 'coz they are too violent? What a load.
16 posted on 04/05/2002 3:16:34 PM PST by RangeRatt
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To: TMC_13
"Song of the South" has been banned for years.
17 posted on 04/05/2002 3:19:24 PM PST by Slyfox
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To: RangeRatt
Wiley will be known as a terrorist soon enough and the PMRC will get rid of him so kids do not see the violence and the ideas of terrorizing a bird or human. Watch out for that huge boulder above your head...I hear it falls right on you.
18 posted on 04/05/2002 3:25:10 PM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: TMC_13
But every other illegal Mexican is welcome!
19 posted on 04/05/2002 3:34:48 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants
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To: TMC_13
AY ChiHauHau!!! Ay CarumBaaaa !!!

What next Pepe LePew? Damn these PC goons to hell!!!
20 posted on 04/05/2002 3:36:04 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: My Favorite Headache
just my luck...I order rocket skates, and now this happens. BTW, I am not worried about the boulder- see, I have this little umbrella...
21 posted on 04/05/2002 3:53:52 PM PST by RangeRatt
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To: TMC_13
LULAC, the "League of United Latin American Citizens," the oldest and most respected Hispanic voters' organization, has already made its views known that it does *NOT* consider the cartoon character Speedy offensive, their spokesman remarking, "I don't know a single Mexican that doesn't like Speedy." Cartoon Network Latin America, an affiliate of Cartoon Network south of the border, regularly airs Speedy and he's one of their most popular characters. Yet Cartoon Network has made it clear that the character, banned from the air since 1999 in the US, will stay off the air in the US.

Now lemme get a little preachy here. This shows what I've always maintained: "political correctness" and "sensitivity" etc. aren't about being "sensitive" to minorities or people of color. It's a crutch for guilty liberal white people to feel good about themselves. It doesn't mean a damn thing that Mexicans themselves do like Speedy Gonzalez---some white folks at Cartoon Network have decided they shouldn't oughta like Speedy, and that's that. The important thing, you see, is for those nice white liberals at Cartoon Network to feel good about themselves, with a nice big pat on the back for themselves for being so "enlightened" and "sensitive."

22 posted on 04/05/2002 4:02:39 PM PST by Map Kernow
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To: TMC_13
So what difference will one more illegal make...

Let Speedy in.....Let Speedy in

23 posted on 04/05/2002 4:04:10 PM PST by CRAW
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To: TMC_13
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,48872,00.html

Speedy Gonzales Caged by Cartoon Network

Wednesday, March 27, 2002
By Michael Y. Park

NEW YORK — Speedy Gonzales easily bested Sylvester the Cat, Daffy Duck and other assorted banditos in his nearly 50-year career. But the Fastest Mouse in Mexico can't seem to escape the clutches of the Cartoon Network.

The rapid rodent has been deemed an offensive ethnic stereotype of Mexicans, and has been off the air since the cable network became the sole U.S. broadcaster of old Warner Brothers cartoons in late 1999.

But that has animated fans of the spunky character who want Speedy cartoon shorts — and the famous "Arriba! Arriba! Arriba!" cry — back on the airwaves.

Hundreds of fans have engaged in an e-mail campaign to resurrect Speedy, gathering on animation-fan Web sites to debate and organize, according to Virginia Cueto, an associate editor at HispanicOnline who wrote an article about the cartoon controversy.

"Speedy Gonzales has always been a very popular cartoon character, and cartoon fans are among the most diehard loyal fans around. They just want him back," she said in a telephone interview from Los Angeles. "And these aren't just non-Mexicans; a lot of these are Mexicans themselves."

In his adventures, the sombrero-wearing mouse sports an over-the-top Mexican accent and uses his super speed to foil foes like the "Greengo Pussygato" Sylvester. Speedy is sometimes aided by a coterie of drunken Mexican mice who lounge around the village, or by his lazy cousin Slowpoke Rodriguez, who seems as slow-witted as he is slow-footed.

"Speedy Gonzales was a great character and I understand how he portrayed Mexicans in a bad light. However, the cartoons are still funny and it's a disservice and disgrace to the original animators to never show them again," said Geoff Mukhtar, an Indianapolis publicist and Speedy fan. "These cartoons reflect the time they were created and we're trying to impose modern standards on them."

There evidently wasn't a problem with the Mexican caricatures at the beginning of Speedy's career. The 1955 animated short "Speedy Gonzales" won an Academy Award, and two other cartoons, "Tabasco Road" and "The Pied Piper of Guadalupe," were nominated for Oscars in 1957 and 1961.

But the outdated messages in cartoons like Speedy aren't appropriate in the 21st century, Cartoon Network spokeswoman Laurie Goldberg said.

"It hasn't been on the air for years because of its ethnic stereotypes," she said in a telephone interview from Atlanta. "We have such a huge library, I think we intend to go with popular shows that aren't going to upset people. We're not about pushing the boundary. We're not HBO. We have a diverse audience and we have an impressionable audience."

Networks like the Cartoon Network have edited out scenes from or simply refused to show animated movies with now-questionable gags or behavior like smoking or drinking since the 1980s. Among the most taboo of Warner Brothers cartoons are the "Censored 11," which depict blacks as fat-lipped minstrels or cannibalistic savages.

And though adult fans may bemoan the fact their favorite rodent has been sent to broadcast limbo, they ought to consider most of the viewers are children, Los Angeles psychologist Robert Butterworth said.

"These stereotypes are ingrained when we're young. And what do kids watch? Cartoons," he said. "I know the adults are saying, 'Oh God, it's just Speedy Gonzales,' but these are impressions that are put in very early and very hard to pull out. I'm the last person to hold a sign for political correctness, but kids absorb this thing on a preconscious level."

Fans aren't buying that argument.

"It seems to be yet another attempt to be PC," New York account supervisor and cartoon enthusiast Kathleen McCullough said. "Sure, adults understand and dislike the bigger ethnic issues related to such a character, but to little kids, Speedy is just a cartoon!"

And where do you draw the line with a medium that, by its nature, relies on caricature for humor, Mukhtar asked.

"What about Pepe LePew? His chasing of unwilling females surely sends the message to children that's it's OK to stalk and attack them if they resist," he wrote in an e-mail. "Plus, because he's French, does this mean that all Frenchmen are sexual predators?"

Speedy boosters shouldn't expect to see their furry hero anytime soon, at least in the United States, Goldberg said. But there is a place where Speedy can still be found zipping across TV screens — and, presumably, where the crude stereotypes he embodies don't touch a cultural nerve.

That place: The Cartoon Network Latin America, where, ironically enough, Speedy Gonzales is "hugely popular," Goldberg said.

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Molon labe!

24 posted on 04/05/2002 4:49:24 PM PST by nralife
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To: Arioch7
WOW... That kicked in some long lost memories...
25 posted on 04/05/2002 7:17:54 PM PST by AgentEcho
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To: nralife
!viva la speedy! yes, i know i owe you a box of ammo..
26 posted on 04/05/2002 7:48:47 PM PST by herewego
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To: herewego
no more speedy? this could mean WAR.
27 posted on 04/05/2002 10:44:04 PM PST by docroy
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To: TMC_13
I personally never liked Speedy; I thought him annoying, and found many Speedy Gonzoles cartoons to be predictable and boring.

That said, he is so far as I know the "winner" in every cartoon in which he appears, and from what I understand many Mexicans are not only not offended--they actually like him.

Perhaps what's needed is to have more than one cartoon channel.

28 posted on 04/05/2002 11:13:38 PM PST by supercat
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To: TMC_13

29 posted on 04/06/2002 2:59:26 AM PST by b4its2late
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To: Arioch7
Apache Chief rules. Twenty years ago when I used to smoke dope, I would get stoned and watch Super Friends on Saturday morning before I went to work. Apache Chief was not on nearly enough. He was cool.
30 posted on 04/06/2002 3:44:03 AM PST by Skooz
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To: Map Kernow
"political correctness" and "sensitivity" etc. aren't about being "sensitive" to minorities or people of color. It's a crutch for guilty liberal white people to feel good about themselves. It doesn't mean a damn thing that Mexicans themselves do like Speedy Gonzalez---some white folks at Cartoon Network have decided they shouldn't oughta like Speedy, and that's that. The important thing, you see, is for those nice white liberals at Cartoon Network to feel good about themselves, with a nice big pat on the back for themselves for being so "enlightened" and "sensitive

You nailed it. That is the most succint and accurate definition of PC I have ever read. Good show.

31 posted on 04/06/2002 3:48:40 AM PST by Skooz
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To: Slyfox
""Song of the South" has been banned for years."

So has "Follow Me Boys," with Fred MacMurray and Kurt Russell. Too pro-father, way way wayyyyy too pro-Boy Scouts.

This is what we've come to.

32 posted on 04/06/2002 10:15:03 AM PST by Harrison Bergeron
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To: Slyfox
Haha well I have it on my computer the walt disney version anyway haha. Zipadeedoodah.
33 posted on 04/06/2002 12:35:21 PM PST by weikel
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To: Nam Vet
Slow-Poke Rodriguez, he pock a gun !!!!
34 posted on 04/06/2002 1:01:08 PM PST by hoosierham
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To: nralife;AgentEcho;Skooz
Yeah, I loved the Superfriends. Some of them were just so bad that you HAD to laugh. If you all want a laugh, go here and look at the super friends link. www.seanbaby.com is the site. Note: I do not endorse this site per se' but I think the Super Friends stuff is hilarious.

Good article nralife! You know I have been a HUGE Warner Brothers fan for my entire life and for some reason, I just stopped being able to watch it. Now that I see how much they have censored it, I can see why I haven't been able to waych it. I must have a unconscious Liberal BS detector! LOL, maybe I am a superhero!

Also, I was reading a few months ago an article in which some black community was OUTRAGED that the black man being illustrated had big lips. I said to one of my partners "What the F!#$", and he said, "Yeah, thats racist". So, I asked him what if the black folks being illustrated DO have big lips?

He said it was STILL racist to draw him that way. So, I made the conclusion that if EVERY minority HAD to be drawn to look like a white man, then THAT was racist. Pure reason just seems to escape these people.

As far as getting stoned while watching the superfriends... I was in Second Grade when I watched it so I dont think it would have been quite as cool, LOL!

35 posted on 04/06/2002 2:59:36 PM PST by Arioch7
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To: Arioch7
If racial ambulence chasers were drill sargents and those who object to them were privates, a conversation might go something like this: Sargent: "You are a racist!! Mend your ways NOW!!" Private: "I'm not a racist. I don't intend any harm towards . . ." Sargent: " I SAID YOU ARE A RACIST!! DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME??!!IF I SAY YOU'RE A RACIST, YOU ARE A RACIST!!!" Private: "SIR, YES SIR!! Sir, I still don't think what I am doing is . . ." Sargent: "WHO GAVE YOU PERMISSION TO THINK?! I'LL TELL YOU WHAT TO THINK, WHEN TO THINK IT, AND WHEN NOT TO THINK IT ANYMORE!!"
36 posted on 04/06/2002 7:54:51 PM PST by Kyle_in_Denver
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To: TMC_13

Speedy, martyr to political correctness.

37 posted on 04/06/2002 8:00:34 PM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: docroy
Yes this means war if the can ban Speedy Gonzales then they should also ban Pat Boones song Speedy Gonzales I think they are wrong to ban Speedy Gonzales as my Last name is Gonzales
38 posted on 01/22/2003 2:17:25 PM PST by Speedyg97702
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To: Nam Vet
What about Pepe Le Pew? I'm sure he's very offensive to our stalwart allies the French.
39 posted on 01/22/2003 2:44:19 PM PST by Dionysius
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To: TMC_13
I liked Speedy's friend....Slow Poke Rodriguez. "Dont mess with Slow Poke..he's not too fast...but He Carry a Gun!"
40 posted on 01/22/2003 2:47:24 PM PST by Delbert
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To: NormsRevenge
What next Pepe LePew?

The French know better than to complain about Pepe... we'd cut them off from Jerry Lewis.

41 posted on 01/22/2003 2:54:21 PM PST by Willie Green (I speak only two languages: English and bad English.)
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To: Slyfox
"Song of the South" has been banned for years.

Yep, it sure has. Disney milks it for money in other countries, but they won't sell it in the U.S. Check out Bannedfilms.com, notice the little something extra you get when you buy that poster? Act casual, say nothing! ;-)

Also, there are some of the banned Warner Bros. cartoons at THIS WEBSITE, though none of Speedy Gonzales. Might want to have a look while they're still available.

42 posted on 01/22/2003 3:06:25 PM PST by Charles Martel
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To: Charles Martel
Thank you. I think I'll be humming a few old favorite tunes. :)
43 posted on 01/22/2003 6:13:12 PM PST by Slyfox
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To: TMC_13
Cartoon Network officals have bannished Speedy Gonzales from their prime-time line-ups for fear of offending Mexican Americans, but fans of the Mexican mouse hero are figting back.

Now that is one very odd phobia!

44 posted on 01/22/2003 6:15:18 PM PST by judgeandjury (The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws.)
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To: nralife
The rapid rodent has been deemed an offensive ethnic stereotype of Mexicans, ...

Maybe it would have been more correct if the article had said that Speedy Gonzales has been deemed an offensive ethnic stereotype of Mexican mice.

45 posted on 01/22/2003 6:21:25 PM PST by judgeandjury (The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws.)
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To: Arioch7

Well done I totally agree, pesonally I've grown up with these charactors and still watch these over here in England and not once have I ever felt or thought that there was any racial discrimination or that they were being deliberately or being hurtful by warner to those that come from different walks of life. Its about time these sad people took time to laugh at them selves and take it as it is intended.
I find it saddening to know that these people once when they were kids them selves most likely watched these cartoons them selves and laughed all the way through them and this does make them sad today to be an adult and deprive todays generation the loss of these valid treasures made by very talented cartoonists.
Keep with it America lets not loose any more vital archives through the sake of a few sad people.


46 posted on 07/20/2004 8:09:50 AM PDT by Gonzallis
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