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Lies, damn lies and Palestinian spokesmen
Israelinsider ^ | April 7, 2002 | Doron Kescher

Posted on 04/07/2002 7:33:34 AM PDT by Democrats are liars

Since the signing of the Oslo Accords in September 1993, and most especially since the outbreak of violence in September 2000, Palestinian spokespersons and the Palestinian media have launched a barrage of lies against Israel and the Israeli Army.

Here is the story of one that did not fly...

On March 31, 2002, I was watching one of CNN's most capable anchors, Arnand Naidoo, interview chief Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat in Jericho, and Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Emanuel Nachson in the Jerusalem studio.

Like a hysterical schoolchild, Saeb Erekat described the shooting and shelling of an Israeli raid being carried out on Yasser Arafat's Ramallah headquarters. Mr. Erekat repeatedly stated that he feared for Chairman Arafat's life. He further charged that a Palestinian policeman had been wounded in the gunfight and was bleeding to death as a result of the Israeli Army not allowing an ambulance to retrieve him.

Arnand Naidoo naturally questioned Mr. Nachson over why Israel was attacking the compound after giving the U.S. assurances that Chairman Arafat would not be harmed.

Mr. Nachson replied that to his knowledge, the Israeli Army was not attacking, and would not attack, the Ramallah compound in order to harm Chairman Arafat; the operation that Mr. Erekat was describing was not happening, and was probably part of the Palestinian disinformation campaign.

Mr. Erekat became even more hysterical and vehement in his accusations (if this was possible). He again demanded that the attack be called off, that an ambulance be allowed to retrieve the wounded policeman, and in the face of Mr. Nachson's rebuttal, challenged CNN to send a camera crew to "see for themselves" the cause of the policeman's wounds.

And that's where it got interesting folks...

Just when it appeared that the warm air from Saeb Erekat's mouth had provided this lie with enough lift to become airborne and join the myriad other Palestinian lies in general circulation, Arnand Naidoo made a courageous decision.

He crossed live to another capable CNN reporter, Michael Holmes, who was 200 meters from the Ramallah compound.

Michael Holmes described exactly what was going on: nothing.

There were no gun-battles. No Israeli soldiers blasting their way in. No tank shells; certainly none directed at the compound.

Holmes described some Israeli soldiers calmly walking into the area of the compound already breached, and then calmly walking out again a few moments later. He could hear no gunfire, and was at pains to describe the fact that if there had been gunfire, he was certainly close enough to have heard it! He also said that although a tank shell could be heard occasionally, these tanks were in other areas of the city, and the rounds were "certainly not directed at the compound".

He mentioned that some minutes earlier what he presumed to be a stun grenade had been detonated in the courtyard, but that it was not accompanied by any other activity.

A commercial break promptly ended this most interesting episode.

I watched CNN news for the next 2 hours to see what would unfold, and in both subsequent news bulletins, Michael Holmes described the complete inactivity at Arafat's compound. Mr. Erekat's lies were not repeated, but the ubiquitous news ticker told of "conflicting accounts" from Israeli and Palestinian sources about a raid on Yasser Arafat's compound.

What are we to make of this?

To those of us attuned to Middle East politics, this is just another example of professional Palestinian liars such as Nabil Shaath, Saeb Erekat, Hanan Ashrawi, Ahmad Qurei (Abu Ala) and "General Yasser Arafat" himself spewing forth their baseless accusations in order to malign and discredit Israel.

It is a pattern that the Western media - with the notable exception of Fox News - has been very slow to pick up on, and is even more reticent to expose.

In light of the mountain of lies told by the Palestinians, it would seem reasonable to expect that Western outlets would be more thorough in their investigation of Palestinian claims.

But this does not occur. I believe this is partly due to naivety, and partly due to the fact that a large proportion of the news media - especially the most esteemed BBC - are ready to believe and report the absolute worst about 'the Israelis' and similarly refuse to believe the disturbing truth about 'the oppressed Palestinians.'

For them, the 'truth' has nothing to do with the facts.


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War is the only way!
1 posted on 04/07/2002 7:33:35 AM PDT by Democrats are liars
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To: Democrats are liars

"It is a pattern that the Western media - with the notable exception of Fox News - has been very slow to pick up on, and is even more reticent to expose."

Yeah we know about the bias!

2 posted on 04/07/2002 7:37:04 AM PDT by Democrats are liars
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To: Democrats are liars
:)
3 posted on 04/07/2002 7:37:40 AM PDT by ChadGore
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To: Democrats are liars
This little weasel is pretty effective. He stays on message/ ignores questions/ a keeps yapping about occupation.

Number one liar and spinner for the PLO and the Palestinians

Very slick and good at repeating lies

 


4 posted on 04/07/2002 7:40:38 AM PDT by dennisw
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5 posted on 04/07/2002 7:41:51 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: Democrats are liars
Another reason the media gives the Pally's a pass on their continual lying, and they know they lie, is because the Palestinian terrorists will kill their reporters and cameramen in the territories if they paint them in a bad, (truthful) light. In other words, they're afraid of them.
6 posted on 04/07/2002 7:42:24 AM PDT by Zorobabel
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To: Democrats are liars
With most Palestinians and Democrats believing in the father of lies, instead of the one true God, it is no surprise they find it so easy to tell lies, and believe them!!
7 posted on 04/07/2002 7:43:58 AM PDT by thirst4truth
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To: Zorobabel
It would seem Arabfat and the palestinian terrorists learned a lot from Clinton and the Clinton spinners.
8 posted on 04/07/2002 7:45:13 AM PDT by Democrats are liars
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To: thirst4truth
There are two classes of people who seem incapable of telling the truth: Palestinians and Democrats.
9 posted on 04/07/2002 7:46:52 AM PDT by gaspar
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To: Democrats are liars
It is a pattern that the Western media - with the notable exception of Fox News - has been very slow to pick up on, and is even more reticent to expose.

The elite American media has continually lied and presented half-truths or propaganda as 'fact' to the public for decades now. Why would we expect this to be any different? In the past month alone, how many public lies have the Palestinians been caught in? And yet the elite American media still preaches about Arafat claiming to want 'peace' and giving his propaganda continual air time.

10 posted on 04/07/2002 7:50:02 AM PDT by zandtar
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To: dennisw
Everytime I see this weasel I look at the sole of my shoe because the smell makes me think that I have stepped into something.
11 posted on 04/07/2002 7:56:24 AM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
Yeah, I'm sure with you on that! Looks like a head in serious need of crosshair-assisted ventilation.
12 posted on 04/07/2002 7:59:02 AM PDT by MarineDad
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To: zandtar
The reason is simple. Ignored, but simple. The lamestream doesn't like Jews and any chance it gets to ruin a reputation here, a peace initiative there, it does so. What would be interesting in their scummy lives if they didn't have dead Israeli teenagers to report on? What if they couldn't have on the spot access shoots when terrorists blow up a bus full of Israelis? They need to give the clintons their daily fixes.
13 posted on 04/07/2002 8:04:09 AM PDT by Nix 2
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To: dennisw
Yeah, that guy...he is a weasel, a queen weasel.

I saw Tony Snow go after him, he was on with a young Israeli spokesman, Mark Regeb(?), who exhibited more restraint than I would have had, and the more Snow questioned him, the more ridiculous his lies and exaggerations became.

Why would Israelis want to live near these psychopaths. Brave people, very brave.

14 posted on 04/07/2002 8:13:46 AM PDT by Benrand
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To: Democrats are liars
It is a pattern that the Western media...

I would include Fox in this group.

An example: On the morning that the Palestinians were saying that the Israeli forces had blown the southern door off of the Church of the Nativity...Fox & Friends had a live report from Jennifer Griffin in, Israel.

She was speaking to a Palestinian lawyer over the phone. The lawyer said that he was in the church...and the church's door had been bombed, there was a fire, part of the building had caved in...and the Israelis were firing on them.

Later...we heard from a Priest in the church...he said that he had been told the door was blown off (hint hint)...anyway...

Later in the day we found out it was not the back door of the church at all...but a back gate...and the Israelis still denied that they did it.

I wrote to Fox & Friends and asked them to remind the viewers exactly what the Palestinian lawyer had said...and to announce that obviously he was a liar.

Unless I missed it...Fox & Friends did not mention the lies that had been broadcast via their show.

15 posted on 04/07/2002 8:14:20 AM PDT by ResistorSister
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To: Benrand
 

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16 posted on 04/07/2002 8:19:56 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: Benrand; ALL


17 posted on 04/07/2002 8:32:38 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: Democrats are liars
"Democrats are liars" , I guess you can change your handle to "Democrats and PA flunkies are lairs" ... they learned spin from Clinton spin machine, eh?

Now the question is: Will a proven liar like that be allowed on CNN again????

18 posted on 04/07/2002 9:50:38 AM PDT by WOSG
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To: dennisw
"Very slick and good at repeating lies" ... Carville with a mustache!!
19 posted on 04/07/2002 9:52:51 AM PDT by WOSG
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To: WOSG
they learned spin from Clinton spin machine, eh?

Well maybe they did not learn it from Clinton. However I am sure they picked up a few tricks from Clinton as far as the spin game goes.

20 posted on 04/07/2002 9:54:51 AM PDT by Democrats are liars
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To: Democrats are liars
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21 posted on 04/07/2002 11:12:07 AM PDT by Defender2
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To: Democrats are liars
I must say I have been impressed with Shepherd Smith as of late..he has refused to let the Palestinian spokesmen go on and on making up their own questions as well as answers...he has pressed them to answer HIS question..
22 posted on 04/07/2002 11:18:28 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Democrats are liars
Is that all? You call that a lie? Compared to some of their other BS, this doesn't even rank.

How about an "American" like James Zogby, who stated on FOX last week that Arab armies did not attack Israel in 1948?

But for me, it's not their lies. Their lies are there and obvious to anyone with a functioning brain.

What gets to me is how all their arguments are totally lacking in any logic.

Take James Zogby again. Today on FOX he told this little story about "their loss of hope". Seems a "Palestinian" he knew was all excited by OSLO in 1992, but was depressed and dejected by 1994. What happened by 1994? His life didn't improve and unemployment had risen because of Israeli closures

Let me ask James what Tony Snow failed to ask.

Whose F**ken fault is that?

Arafat took control and the quality of life went down. There was terrorism in Israel, so Israel was not so anxious to employ potential murderers. If they are in control of their territory, why does Israel owe them jobs?. Why don't they ask Arafat to create jobs instead of suicide bombers?

Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it's my logic that faulty.

23 posted on 04/07/2002 11:20:30 AM PDT by Sabramerican
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To: dennisw
Wish I knew how to MORPH that picture into PAUL BEGALA..Be most Appropo..........LIARS Par Excellence......!
24 posted on 04/07/2002 11:22:00 AM PDT by litehaus
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To: Sabramerican
Yes, tahnk god I am able to watch Fox news and can boycott CNN and the other liberal biased stations. I do watch PMSNBC sometimes because they are always reporting from Israel.
25 posted on 04/07/2002 11:23:00 AM PDT by Democrats are liars
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To: Democrats are liars; dennisw
War is the only way!

Well said!

This constant Goebellsian islamanazi harping at "The Jews!" -- "The Jews" -- "The Jews" -- "The Israelis" -- "The Israelis" -- "The Israelis" -- "The Jews!" -- "The Jews" -- "The Jews" -- "The Israelis" -- "The Israelis" -- "The Israelis" -- "The Jews!" -- "The Jews" -- "The Jews" -- "The Israelis" -- "The Israelis" -- "The Israelis" -- is telling in more than one way, however.

First it reminds us [We need reminding, already??!!] that the death-and-destruction-worshipping, false-fuerher-following islamanazis are simply continuing to carry the thirteen hundred years old flag that was for a time carried for them by the pagan-heathen, death-and-destruction-worshipping, false-fuerher-following Euronazis of the Holocaust.

Except that they have learned from Goebells, their activities are not patterned on those of "the prophet-Hitler" and his gang, the reverse was true.

Hitler spoke Marx's language but followed the actions and employed the tactics of his real hero and inspiration, Mohammed!

It also tells us about "the media" and that evil showers' relationship with the doers and promulgators of evil in all its manifestations and in all of its forms -- all over the world.

The companies that provide us with our "news" are not in the "news" business.

They are in the bottom line business and their bottom lines are enhanced not by truth and not by boring old reality -- but by the maximum audience share.

And that is obtained by sensationalizing and by creating the most controversy about whatever it is they are, hat day, presenting as "news" -- and by thus generating the maximum exposure for their clients -- not all of whom are "advertisers."

At least not in the normally accepted sense.

Some of their client "advertisers" are "client states."

And some are Osama and Daschle Ararfat and their fellow islamanazis.

CNN knows that representatives of neither the "client states" nor the islamanazis will ever give them a second of "interview time" -- ever again -- if the "client state" or the islamanazi propagandist is exposed as a gang of crooks or as a liar -- or is made to deal with the reality of who and what he and it are.

Expose Lee Kuan Yew as the pompous, self-promoting, self-aggrandizing, self-enriching, strutting clown that he is? Forget the nice facilities -- or any -- in Singapore. And the audience share the descends from that part of the world.

Call Mahatir a racist pig and a looter-beyond-compare and no more $3,000.00 per day junkets courtesy of "the government of Malaysia."

Say Mugabe is a murdering racist pig. Goodbye Rhodesia/zimbabwe. And, Christianne Cresent-News-Network Ammanpour, try and ask president field-marshal chairman general vee-cee-and-bar Daschle Ararfat why he is a lying, thieving, inciting, mass-murdering terrorist scumbag bastard? And you're oudder there, Mumma!

And then there is the ideological bent [In a word: Evil!] of the advocate-product of the modern school of "journalism" [Motto: Joe Goebells was a piker!] -- and that, in this instance, for example, the media moguls have it figgered they can hold the maximum audience attention by constantly repeating that the problem is "The Jews!" -- "The Jews" -- "The Jews" -- "The Israelis" -- "The Israelis" -- "The Israelis" -- "The Jews!" -- "The Jews" -- "The Jews" -- "The Israelis" -- "The Israelis" -- "The Israelis" -- "The Jews!" -- "The Jews" -- "The Jews" -- "The Israelis" -- and "The Israelis,"

Even though they know it is not true it keeps us all on our toes, at one anothers throats -- and glued to "the news" broadcasts.

And all of that despite that they know that what they do is Evil.

And that; if we who comprise Our Judeo-Christian [IE: "Western "] Civilization do not all stand together against our common Hesporophobic enemy; Our Civilization shall surely fall apart!

26 posted on 04/07/2002 11:29:06 AM PDT by Brian Allen
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To: dennisw
In light of the mountain of lies told by the Palestinians, it would seem reasonable to expect that Western outlets would be more thorough in their investigation of Palestinian claims.

But this does not occur.

Right, except for a few of them, the media is pretty much on the side of the Palestinians.

27 posted on 04/07/2002 2:57:10 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: MeeknMing
I wonder if any cartoonist would put Muslim symbols on Muslim leaders they don't like. But they don't feel bad at all about labeling the Jews.
28 posted on 04/07/2002 4:02:01 PM PDT by xm177e2
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To: xm177e2
I wouldn't think so. Doesn't fit their agenda maybe?

Here's some more Middle East cartoons, fyi.........
Middle East Cartoons
See bottom of pages, Click for More

http://cagle.slate.msn.com/news/MideastWorldCartoons/main.asp

29 posted on 04/07/2002 4:11:12 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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