Posted on 04/09/2002 11:28:16 AM PDT by JediGirl
The school at the centre of the row over creationism in education is inviting one of its chief critics to speak to its students about evolution, it has emerged. Sir Peter Vardy, the multimillionaire entrepreneur who donated £2m to found Emmanuel city technology college in Gateshead, and who remains director of its board, wants Richard Dawkins to take part in a debate. Emmanuel has been criticised since the Guardian revealed last month that lectures given by its staff, suggested evolution was a "faith position" and urged teachers to "counter [its] false doctrines". At the time, Professor Dawkins, an authority on evolution, wrote: "Any science teacher who denies the world is billions (or even millions) of years old is teaching children a preposterous, mind-shrinking falsehood. These men disgrace the honourable profession of teacher." But the two men have been corresponding privately since the dispute broke out and are now planning to meet. Sir Peter said: "We are quite open to talking to anybody. I would like to have a debate at Emmanuel college for the students to hear and I'll be asking him to take part." He added: "I am not a creationist and neither is Emmanuel college. We have guys who do believe in young earth [theories], but we also have atheists and agnostics and folks that believe in the old earth _ What we seek to do is present all the views of both creation and evolution." But in a lecture, the school's head of science, Steven Layfield, urged Christian teachers to "show the superiority" of creationist theories. He added that they should "note every occasion when an evolutionary/old-earth paradigm [millions or billions of years] is explicitly mentioned or implied and courteously point out the fallibility of the statement". Most scientists agree that life on earth is around four billion years old. "I'm keen to meet Sir Peter and no doubt the idea of a debate will be one of many things we discuss when we meet up," Prof Dawkins said.
Bull! There are dozens of creation myths. They want to advocate one particular creation myth.
all the lines are cut--disconnected...
no dial tone...brain waves---
human intelligence has sunk---bottomed out---reaching new lows!
you would die from shame for believing this crap---
you remind of the attica school---takeover---congress---William Kndumhbstlers!
Eliza/f.Christian: Can you elaborate on that?
welfare--food stamps---lie/bs-fare...
national ID---charge card for the intellectually disadvantaged but PC-elite--priveledged...
special science---royalty(wolves)--the American popes---curia--cardinals and their sheep!
Just because your brain--understanding is morphing...
does that mean reality--science and Truth is morphing/blending(psychopath)...
not in my same-sane--one-world---no morphing/schizophrenia!
Concrete--real vs plastic--phony!
Please go on.
Please stop.
Bull! There are dozens of creation myths. They want to advocate one particular creation myth.
4 posted on 4/9/02 9:46 AM Hawaii-Aleutian by jlogajan
Bones--entrails---voodoo-morph...
how big is the evo-bone in your brain-nose-lips?
Does that question interest you?
Pronunciation: 'kwa-k(&-)rE
Function: noun
Date: circa 1711
: the practices or pretensions of a quack
A quack has the little pictures...3 X 5 cards---evolution wild card only!
Does that question interest you?
24 posted on 4/9/02 10:35 AM Hawaii-Aleutian by general_re
I have a pretty good picture...feathers---spearchuckers for voodoo science(pygmies)!!
Do you dream often?
I got kicked of the creation ark mother ship to warn you!
Do you wish to got kicked of the creation ark mother ship to warn me?
and I promised I would be good---
do anything---to stay...get back on!
Because, I assure you, the vast majority of FReepers have no idea what you're trying to say, and while occassionally amusing in a pat-you-on-the-head kinda way, you're usually just annoying and disruptive to what could be honest, interesting debates.
Can you elaborate on that?
Hey, fchristian....I had the same difficulty reading Drudge's book as I do your posts. I put it down.
Give those of us who have reasonable questions of the evolution idealogues a hand, would you? I don't like Haikus either. Language was created so as to FACILITATE communication, not confuse.
You are being a bit negative.
35 posted on 4/9/02 11:06 AM Hawaii-Aleutian by toddhisattva
The devilcrat mantra/religion(evolution)!
Can you elaborate on that?
Did you ever see..."Michaelangelo" when he tore the pub---wine keg apart!
Oh, I ever see Michaelangelo what he tore the pubwine keg apart.
Please go on.
Please stop.
Hmmm...
Broken ELIZA: Evolution--monkey brains!
Anti-ELIZA: Please stop.
Broken ELIZA: Could you elaborate?
Anti-ELIZA: You're doing a disservice to this discussion by simply saying Evolution--monkey brains!.
Broken ELIZA: What makes you think I'm doing a disservice to this ugh--blah(glayvin) discussion?
Anti-ELIZA: You're doing a disservice to this ugh--blah(glayvin) discussion with no intelligence behind it. You're just a simple regurgitation of the other person's words.
Broken ELIZA: Let's talk about your creation--antidrug!(bouncybouncy) mother.
Anti-ELIZA: My creation -- antidrug!(bouncybouncy) mother has nothing to do with this. You're just a mindless text-search/random response generator program.
Exit.
Broken ELIZA: Interesting. Just because your brain--understanding is morphing... OK, we'll assume I'm just a mindless text-search/random royalty(wolves)--the American popes---curia--cardinals and their sheep! response generator program. How does that make you feel?
Anti-ELIZA: Quit
<esc>
Bye
Broken ELIZA: Please welfare--food stamps---lie/bs-fare stay.
Anti-ELIZA: Error: Division by zero. [Abort] [Retry] [Ignore]
Broken ELIZA: Abort--Darwin brain waves--Evolution(I will not buy this record, it is scratched)!!!
he created the mirror of honesty---self reflection---not projection(bias)...
through parody(ridicule)!
Here's a primer... clue!
you only see the kinky--weird colors(evolution)!
What resemblance do you see?
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