Gould Strikes Back At Creationists

Indepedent.co.uk ^ | 4-09-2002

[Map Kernow]

Soon the NetGrammarPolitzei (NGRAMPO) will be allowed to view all facial recognization tapes and rule on correctness of grammar. (In all languages, including Spanish, Arabic, Chukchi, Roshani, and NaDene.)

NaDene is a proposed language family, not a specific language. This illustrates why all discussions of language should be confined to professional linguists in academia, who understand its extreme subtleties, rather than laypeople.

Same thing for voting. Contemporary politics and governance are far too nuanced for the average citizen to discuss and understand. Important issues like reproductive rights, amnesty for international workers, re-establishment of non-human-impacted wilderness areas, and revenue enhancement for necessary social programs are easily distorted by political laypeople, and should be left to expert "voters" designated by politicians already familiar with governance.

[Doctor Stochastic]

...(the originators of the "Eve" theory, using mitocondrian DNA, which maintains that every human being on earth comes form a single female about 50,000 years ago).

Not exactly. The claim is that there was a single female who occurs in everyone's ancestral tree. It's a simple cladistic artifact.

[My2Cents]

You must be a busy dude, correcting everyone's typos on the Internet.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

From the Independent no less. I'll bet they struggled trying to figure out which side of this issue to be on.

/sarcasm

[Virginia-American]

Same thing for voting.

A bit off-topic, but do you believe we should allow civil servants to vote? How about people on welfare?

[FairWitness]

Gould is an extremely humorous writer and an avid baseball fan who uses baseball as analogy is many of his writings.

True, but he is also, as stated, a pompous ass, for which his "unusual intellect" is no excuse. I have spent my whole working life around people of "unusual intellect" and most of them are not pompous asses - only the ones who think they know it all.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

The Bible is wrong forever.

100 years ago when scientists said we lived in a "steady-state" universe, the Bible said there was a point of creation. Science has now caught up to the Bible on this point.

[Doctor Stochastic]

Exactly. (Maybe I should have written just diné.) Of course we could be democratic about things and let everyone fly planes like we do with cars.

[SengirV]

Romans 1
21   For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22   Professing to be wise, they became fools,
23   and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures.

a.k.a. Thou shalt have no other gods before me

What's your point. evolution != not believing in God

[stanz]

The topic is Stephen J. Gould. You can't make a point without using Biblical quotations as a crutch?

[onedoug]

"This is not scientific."

Would you consider "cross-cutting relationships" unscientific, then?

[<1/1,000,000th%]

...stupidest white man of all time...

Nah. I work with a PhD in Chemical Engineering who's stupider than Darwin.

[Map Kernow]

A bit off-topic, but do you believe we should allow civil servants to vote? How about people on welfare?

Well, I was trying to be sarcastic, I guess. The thinking of people like Gould and other Darwinian dogmatists is frankly anti-democratic, was my point.

What do you want to do, reinstate the old property qualification? I don't think it could be done. Plus isn't that a little unfair? If you have a problem with the way welfare moms vote, make 'em get off welfare and get a job---don't take away their vote. Same thing for civil servants----make more of 'em get a job in the "real world," but don't disenfranchise them.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

Soon the NetGrammarPolitzei (NGRAMPO) will be allowed to view all facial recognization tapes and rule on correctness of grammar. (In all languages, including Spanish, Arabic, Chukchi, Roshani, and NaDene.)

And C++??

[AmericaUnited]

Having to defend a lie, i.e. evolution, makes the evolutionists twist and contort worse than a pretzel. It is just so funny to watch. For every MONSTER SIZE hole/contradiction that pops up, they have to make up the most improbable and sometimes utterly bizarre hypothesies.

[SengirV]

MY apology. We are looking at it from the same viewpoint. I just wish people on both sides would understand this. There would be a lot more polite and thought provoking discussions, if people didn't start screaming that you are going to hell for not thinking like I think. Or, you are insane for not thinking the way I think.

[stanz]

Well...you know what...I would rather listen to Gould on a talk show, pompous and all, because his knowledge of evolutionary biology surpasses that of many scientists in the field. I think Bill O'Reilly is a pompous ass, but I would rather listen to his reporting than any other journalist because he knows what he's talking about. So, pomposity may not be pleasant to endure, but it's preferable to humble displays of ineptitude.

[Map Kernow]

Exactly. (Maybe I should have written just diné.) Of course we could be democratic about things and let everyone fly planes like we do with cars.

Glad you were smart enough (or maybe just indulgent enough) to see the humor in my post. :)

[Tribune7]

Do you agree with Gould concerning the fossil record?

[colorado tanker]

"Tell me where Cain's wife and her people come from." Same as some of my relatives - from another planet.