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Is India Going the Way of 1930s Germany?
Foreign Policy in Focus ^ | March 27, 2002 | Arun R. Swamy

Posted on 04/09/2002 1:27:00 PM PDT by TBP

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To: TBP
I agree with the author that the core Hindu nationalists bear watching and would cause considerable trouble if they succeed in their campaign to tear down mosques and replace them with Hindu temples

Would it be OK if we tore down the mosques and replaced them with something more useful...say, pork rib BBQ stands...instead?

52 posted on 04/12/2002 8:36:12 PM PDT by neutrino
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It is amazing to me to see how many Christians on this site are licking their chops at the prospect of Muslims--who share our heritage in Abraham--being wiped out by Hindu fundamentalists.

Nothing could be more morally blind or politically irresponsible.

Those who throw their unqualified support behind Indian nationalism are no differemt from the fellow travelers and useful idiots of the 1930's and 40's who in their foolishness and despair embraced another satanic ideology: Communism.

53 posted on 06/03/2002 4:01:53 PM PDT by cicero's_son
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Thank you for pinging me on this.

It is amazing to me to see how many Christians on this site are licking their chops at the prospect of Muslims--who share our heritage in Abraham--being wiped out by Hindu fundamentalists.

The Hindu newspaper reported that at lesat 5,000 (not the 900 officially reported) died in the violence in Gujarat. The newspapers also reported that the government planned this violence in advance, and at least one police officer was quoted as saying that he was ordered to stand aside and not to intervene. Ironically, this is remarkably similar to what happened in the November 1984 massacre of Sikhs in Delhi. I guess you can't teach an old dog new tricks.

An Indian cabinet minister was quoted last year as saying that everyone who lives in India must either be Hindu or be subservient to Hindus. Hindu militants affiliated with the RSS, the parent organization of the ruling BJP, have murdered priests, raped nuns, burned churches, destroyed Christian churcnes and prayer halls. They burned missionary Graham Staines and his two young sons to death while they slept in their jeep, all teh while surrounding the jeep and chanting "Victory to Hannuman," a Hindu god.

They have massacred Sikhs, Christians, Muslims, lower-caste people, and others in massive numbers.

And they do all this with impunty. The government of Punjab, for example, will not even release its own report on the murder of former Akal Takht Jathedar (the spiritual head of the Sikh religion) Gurdev Singh Kaunke -- a report it commissioned itself -- because it apprently implicates a high-ranking police official, SSP Swaran Singh Ghotna.

Yet India proclaims itself democratic and secular, so many Aamericans, including conservative Americans support it.

Nothing could be more morally blind or politically irresponsible.

True. Especially given that Pakistan is a longtime ally and India has a long record of supporting and consorting with our enemies. And according to Tony Blankley in the Washington Times, India supports cross-border terrorism against Paksitan in the province of Sindh.

Those who throw their unqualified support behind Indian nationalism are no differemt from the fellow travelers and useful idiots of the 1930's and 40's who in their foolishness and despair embraced another satanic ideology: Communism. Or the Bund, the American supporters of Hitler. In fact, the RSS, the parent organization of the ruling BJP, was founded in 1925 in admiration and support of the Fascists. Meanwhile, the chief opposition, the "secular" Congress Party, is in coalition with the Communist Party.

Meanwhile, India continues to seek hegemony in South Asia. Cabinet officials have recently called for an "Akand Bharat"-- a Greater India, stretching from Burma to Afghanistan, and absorbing Pakistan (among other countries.) It was India that first conducted nuclear tests, then crowed that Pakistan couldn't compete. It is India that continues to deny self-determination in the form of a free and fair vote to the people of Kashmir, who were promised a plebiscite in 1948, and to the other peoples seeking their freedom, such as the predominantly Christian Nagaland, the Sikh homeland of Punjab, Khalistan, and many others. In all there are 17 freedom movements within the borders of "democratic, secular" India.

Just as the multinational states of Austir-Hungary, the Soviet Union, Czechoslovakia, and Yugoslavia could not hold together, neither can India.

54 posted on 06/04/2002 9:09:21 AM PDT by TBP
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Thank you for pinging me on this

No problem. I just happened to come across your thread a few days ago...I didn't realize until later how much time has passed since you first posted it.

I want to be clear: my criticism of India is not intended as a statement of "support" for Pakistan, which must accept its share of blame for the current situation. For some reason, many people seem to think that they must choose a side in these fights.

Animosity and resentment toward Muslims after September 11(understandable, but extremely misguided, imo) is causing American conservatives to lose their good judgment. Do they really believe that if we use any means necessary to smash the Muslims (who share our heritage in father Abraham and with whom we have much in common), the world we be rid of danger? Do they really think that radical Hinduism--to say nothing of Chinese Leninism--is any less deadly than militant Islam? Would a world without Muslims, dominated by Corporate Materialists, Marxist-Leninists, and Hindu fundamentalists--be somehow more accomodating to Christians? The suggestion is ludicrous.

Meanwhile, India continues to seek hegemony in South Asia.

These days, who doesn't? The real contest, imo, is between the US and China, with Russia likely playing the key swing role in Central. India is ambitious, to be sure, but I think they're pretty much out of the running for now.

Just as the multinational states of Austria-Hungary, the Soviet Union, Czechoslovakia, and Yugoslavia could not hold together, neither can India.

Interesting comparison. I don't know enough about India to comment. I will say that once the scourge of atomization and nationalism is unleashed, it is almost impossible to contain or reverse. The stakes for India in Kashmir are big, indeed.

55 posted on 06/04/2002 3:21:16 PM PDT by cicero's_son
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To: TBP

Older but still relevant bump.


56 posted on 04/18/2006 9:36:40 PM PDT by TBP
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To: TBP

A CIA study a couple of years ago predicted that by 2015, India will break up into several countries.


57 posted on 04/01/2011 1:12:20 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
I don't recall the Jews rioting and burning trains with German women and children in them before WW II.

You do realize that the incident you're talking about was set up by the Indian regime, don't you?

58 posted on 04/01/2011 1:13:47 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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A response to a post I made 9 years ago? That’s rare!


59 posted on 04/01/2011 1:17:25 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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Nah. I don’t think so. India’s been on a roll lately.


60 posted on 04/01/2011 1:32:14 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican; Pearls Before Swine

Good ol’ folks like TBP need to earn their two slices of bread and dissing India in open fora helps.


61 posted on 04/05/2011 9:00:58 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: Pearls Before Swine
I don't recall the Jews rioting and burning trains with German women and children in them before WW II.

That was the evil Poles who did that, at least that's what Nazi Propaganda said.

62 posted on 04/05/2011 9:03:52 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Hey TBP, are you still mourning Bin Laden’s demise? Your Paki masters are in a bit of trouble, aren’t they?

LOL


63 posted on 05/16/2011 1:56:13 AM PDT by indcons (Lurker mode off)
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Terrorist Barnes Phares (TBP) un-bump


64 posted on 05/16/2011 1:57:34 AM PDT by indcons (Lurker mode off)
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