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US: Saudi Prince Abdullah to cancel visit
UPI ^ | 4/14/2002 6:45 PM | RICHARD SALE

Posted on 04/14/2002 4:02:00 PM PDT by Nachum

Administration officials have told United Press International that Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah has effectively canceled his scheduled visit on April 22 to President Bush's ranch because of the continuing Israeli attacks on the Palestinian Authority.

"That's our information," said a State Dept. official. "In the circumstances, it hardly comes as a surprise."

The White House, behind the scenes, is urging Abdullah to come, saying his absence will embarrass President George Bush.

"Abdullah cannot appear to be supporting a U.S. policy that isn't resulting in a cease-fire between Israel and the Palestinians, and there won't be a cease-fire," said Judith Kipper, Middle East expert at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington.

A former senior diplomat to the region, who spoke on condition of anonymity, also said Abdullah's cancellation would be "a major error." But he faulted the administration: "We have a group in the White House that appears to have very little Middle East expertise."

According to State Dept. officials, Abdullah condemned Israel's massive offensive called "Operation Defensive Wall," a "savage act far from any human logic."

The Israeli government said the purpose of Operation Defensive Shield was to root out militants, citing the continued suicide bombings that have devastated Israel, especially the March 27 Passover suicide bombing that killed 28 people and injured 140 in a hotel in Netanya.

Hundreds of Palestinians have been killed since in the fierce offensive began, and much of the infrastructure of the West Bank destroyed.

Sunday, Abdel al Jubeir, foreign policy adviser to Abdullah, told CNN that Sharon's proposal for an international conference -- which the Israelis said, would move forward along the lines of the Saudi peace plan -- "would be a positive step if the Israelis were serious about a total withdrawal from the territories."

"I believe that the Palestinian Authority has made it very clear that they would support such an effort," he said. "Anything that can lead to a reduction in violence and to an end to the senseless killings would be welcomed by the international community.

The proposed conference would include Egypt, Jordan, Morocco -- and Saudi Arabia.

"The important thing here is deeds rather than words. We need a commitment from Israel to implement U.N. Resolution 1402, which is an immediate cease-fire and withdrawal from the territories," al Jubeir emphasized. "We have that commitment from the Palestinians, but we don't have it from Mr. Sharon."

Prior to Secretary of State Colin Powell's trip to Tel Aviv and Ramallah, Abdullah last week cautioned him that Israel's continuing military operations would endanger U.S. interests in the Arab world, according to U.S. officials.

When the Arab League summit met in Beirut March 27-28, Abdullah gave a keynote address that offered Israel "normal relations" in exchange for "full Israeli withdrawal" from Arab territories occupied in the 1967 Six Day War and "recognition of an independent Palestinian state with Jerusalem as its capital and the return of Palestinian refugees."

Abdullah then made a direct appeal to the Israeli people, pledging that if Israel gave up "the policy of force and suppression and accepts peace, we will not hesitate to accept the Israeli people's right to live in security with the rest of the region."

His speech won wide applause, and the Arab League adopted Abdullah's land-for-peace formulation unanimously and also approved a reconciliation between Iraq and Kuwait, which Abdullah, along with Egypt, helped to engineer.

Sharon began his full-scale assault to destroy the Palestinian Authority on March 29.

"Abdullah is hurt and humiliated," said a State Dept. official. "He made what he felt was a generous offer, only to see it entirely ignored, not just by Israel, but seemingly by the United States."

The former senior diplomat said: "The Abdullah Plan was the best thing to come out of Arabia in recent times. It's the best for the Arabs, best for Israel, and the best for the U.S."

According to former CIA Middle East operative, Bob Baer, Abdullah is a key player in U.S. Middle East policy. "He's our only hope for Saudi Arabia," he said. "He's the only guy willing to take on the corruption in the kingdom and fight the war on terror."

Baer said that it is corruption derived from huge military expenditures and grandiose developmental projects, and not land reform or women's rights or participatory democracy that is a key issue in Saudi Arabia. Ever since the aftermath of the Sept. 11 attacks disclosed that 15 of the 19 hijackers involved were Saudis, relations between the United States and the kingdom have been rocky.

"This is not a good development," Kipper said of the cancellation.


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1 posted on 04/14/2002 4:02:00 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum
To hell with Abdullah.

Isn't this the clown who tried to embarrass Guiliani with a check and then a lecture about America's foreign policy?

He also, if I observed correctly, was helping raise blood money for the terrorists.

2 posted on 04/14/2002 4:07:37 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: Nachum
A former senior diplomat [from the since discredited Clinton administration?] to the region, who spoke on condition of anonymity, also said Abdullah's cancellation would be "a major error." But he faulted the administration: "We have a group in the White House that appears to have very little Middle East expertise."

No. We had a group in the White House that seemingly did all it could to help get the Middle East FUBAR.

3 posted on 04/14/2002 4:12:17 PM PDT by okie01
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To: Nachum
Why are we dealing with Saudi Arabia anyway?? They're terrorists in my opinion who treat women like dirt.

Don't worry George....at least Ozzy Osbourne is coming for dinner...so as far as the US people are concerend...you are tops!

4 posted on 04/14/2002 4:19:23 PM PDT by Sungirl
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To: Nachum
Let's see now. We have:

1) A majority of WTC attackers were Saudi;
2) Saudis were found to have contributed huge sums to terrorist front organizations operating in U.S.;
3) Saudis raised $100 million to benefit Palistinean homicide bomber families;
4) Saudi Prince cancels U.S. visit;

Conclusion: Looks like we need a regime change.

5 posted on 04/14/2002 4:19:33 PM PDT by Jolly Green
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That last part about Ozzy was sarcasm.
6 posted on 04/14/2002 4:20:02 PM PDT by Sungirl
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To: Nachum
The White House, behind the scenes, is urging Abdullah to come, saying his absence will embarrass President George Bush.

Somehow, I don't think so.

7 posted on 04/14/2002 4:20:39 PM PDT by browardchad
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To: Sungirl
You know.....I wonder who's idea it was to invite Ozzy...or ask Oprah to Afghanistan???? WAS IT MARY MATALINS???? What blunders....This smells of that snake Carvil.
8 posted on 04/14/2002 4:21:57 PM PDT by Sungirl
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To: Sungirl
That last part about Ozzy was sarcasm.

What is it about women diggin that Ozzy show? I better see what's up.

9 posted on 04/14/2002 4:23:12 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: Nachum
What? Doesn't he want to come here and explain the 'Saudi peace plan'? :) He's gonna miss some mighty fine barbeque. Sigh sigh sigh. No matter what you offer the Arabs they want more more more.
10 posted on 04/14/2002 4:24:35 PM PDT by veronica
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To: sinkspur
Someone needs to start a movement to bring democratic elections to these arab countries.
11 posted on 04/14/2002 4:24:40 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: veronica
What? Doesn't he want to come here and explain the 'Saudi peace plan'? :) He's gonna miss some mighty fine barbeque. Sigh sigh sigh. No matter what you offer the Arabs they want more more more.

The minute we find a substitute for oil, those arab countries are going to go back to being third world rug bizzares.

12 posted on 04/14/2002 4:26:02 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: Jolly Green
Looks like George W. Bush should have cancelled the King's visit to his ranch first. I have a hard time with the Clinton or any prior administration criticizing the sitting president especially during such sensitive times. They should just keep quiet. I don't remember GHWBush criticizing Clinton and Clinton had such young staffers--I am sure they as well as Clinton did not have any Middle EAst experience.
13 posted on 04/14/2002 4:27:22 PM PDT by olliemb
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To: VA Advogado
Someone needs to start a movement to bring democratic elections to these arab countries.

I'm not so sure we ought to encourage that.

These stupid Muslies would elect binLaden or someone like him.

14 posted on 04/14/2002 4:27:32 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: Nachum
Well boo de damn hoo
15 posted on 04/14/2002 4:29:25 PM PDT by linn37
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To: VA Advogado
The show is VERY funny....it's something you wouldn't expect.

Did you read this?

Ozzy says No Thanks to Rusty Yates

16 posted on 04/14/2002 4:29:30 PM PDT by Sungirl
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To: VA Advogado
Someone needs to start a movement to bring democratic elections to these arab countries.

Getting rid of Arafat and Saddam Hussein ought to qualify as a start!
17 posted on 04/14/2002 4:30:01 PM PDT by aBootes
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To: Nachum
The White House, behind the scenes, is urging Abdullah to come, saying his absence will embarrass President George Bush.

If anything should embarrass Bush it is his constant attempts at pandering and appeasing these Saudi terrorism supporters. The Saudis are not are friends and the sooner our benevolent leader figures this out the better off we all shall be.

C'mon GW, knock of this Islam Is Peace® and The Saudis Are Our Allies® crap. No one's buying it anymore.

18 posted on 04/14/2002 4:32:43 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Nachum
Administration officials have told United Press International that Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah has effectively canceled his scheduled visit on April 22 to President Bush's ranch because of the continuing Israeli attacks on the Palestinian Authority.

Buh-BYE!

19 posted on 04/14/2002 4:33:07 PM PDT by kezekiel
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To: Nachum
Abdullah condemned Israel's offensive "Operation Defensive Wall" as a "savage act far from any human logic."

Wrong-o. For a "savage act far from any human logic" Abdullah needs the embrace of the Bomb Girl.

20 posted on 04/14/2002 4:36:37 PM PDT by PhilDragoo
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To: Nachum
Seems to me the Saudis are more outraged over the Palestinian mess, than what happened to the innocents in the US on 9-11.
21 posted on 04/14/2002 4:36:48 PM PDT by Lanza
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To: Nachum
Forget about it, Mister President. The hell with Crown Prince Abdullah. Instead, invite Charlie Daniels. Charlie would be more fun and he's American, through and through. Charlie would bring his fiddle and play a few favorites. Sounds like a good time for all.
22 posted on 04/14/2002 4:38:04 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: sinkspur
Yes. Saddam was elected.
23 posted on 04/14/2002 4:39:02 PM PDT by Lanza
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To: Nachum
"Abdullah is hurt and humiliated," said a State Dept. official. "He made what he felt was a generous offer, only to see it entirely ignored, not just by Israel, but seemingly by the United States."

Why do I have the impression that the US State Dept is part of the problem and not the solution? Too many Arabists there, maybe?

24 posted on 04/14/2002 4:40:18 PM PDT by Baytoh
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To: Nachum
So what, we shouldn't be rolling out the carpet for these guys anyway, we should be rolling them up in a carpet and dumping them in the Meadowlands.
25 posted on 04/14/2002 4:42:08 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Nachum
The White House, behind the scenes, is urging Abdullah to come, saying his absence will embarrass President George Bush.

IMHO, the reporter is making things up. Who gives a **** if Abdullah comes or stays home?

26 posted on 04/14/2002 4:42:20 PM PDT by dighton
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To: Sungirl
Ozzy says No Thanks to Rusty Yates

'Ill burn his eyes out with a poker,' roared Osborne. 'He's profiting directly from the demise of his own children and that, to me, is all wrong. I couldn't stand in the same room with the guy. I'd throw up!'

- Ozzy's all class. LOL

27 posted on 04/14/2002 4:46:39 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: Nachum
Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah has effectively canceled his scheduled visit

Well thank G-d.

May this Islamic Wahabbe freak have his bones picked clean by scorpions.

28 posted on 04/14/2002 4:48:29 PM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Nachum
Seems to me the Arab community should be embarrassed for failing to keep the likes of Arafat and the rest of the terrorists in line. Their failure to police their own kind only shows that they have no respect for themselves or any true desire to ease the mideast tensions. Their silence on this subject is deafening.
29 posted on 04/14/2002 5:38:42 PM PDT by mass55th
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To: sinkspur
"Isn't this the clown who tried to embarrass Guiliani with a check and then a lecture about America's foreign policy?"

Yes, this is Rep. Cynthia McKinney's (D-Ga) friend. After begging Abdullah to give the 9/11 check to the black community, I'm wondering where she found the audacity to claim that the Bush family was profiteering from the terrorist attacks. What a hypocrite!

30 posted on 04/14/2002 5:42:25 PM PDT by mass55th
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To: Nachum
I would think that Abdullah coming here would embarass Bush not the other way around.
31 posted on 04/14/2002 5:45:33 PM PDT by RamsNo1
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To: Lazamataz
What is a Wahabbe?
32 posted on 04/14/2002 5:50:13 PM PDT by RamsNo1
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To: Nachum
The White House, behind the scenes, is urging Abdullah to come, saying his absence will embarrass President George Bush.

Here I've been thinking his presence would be an embarassment to the President, to Texas, to all of America.

33 posted on 04/14/2002 5:51:46 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: RamsNo1
Okay, how about this. Now that we know that Abdullah thinks that his sh*t doesn't stink, and that he can stand up the President of the United States without consequence, let's return the favor by doing the following.

Inform the media that in the absence of the presence of the Crown Prince, President Bush is inviting shock rocker Ozzy Osbourne, his wife, and three children to spend the weekend at the Ranch with the President and the First Lady.

Lots of pictures over the weekend of Ozzy chasing Barnie around with his walking stick, of Sharon, Laura, and Condi exchanging beauty secrets, and of Ozzy accidentally lighting himself on fire with the charcoal lighter fluid at the barbecue.

Wouldn't it be grand?

The the Saudis to go pound sand. It's what they're good at.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

34 posted on 04/14/2002 5:58:07 PM PDT by section9
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To: sinkspur
Ditto, sinkspur.
35 posted on 04/14/2002 5:59:59 PM PDT by rintense
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To: sinkspur
Isn't this the clown who tried to embarrass Guiliani with a check and then a lecture about America's foreign policy?

No, that was some other princeling, who isn't actually in a government role.

This would be a major setback, and the Saudis would pay a huge diplomatic price if Abdullah cancels this trip. But UPI is prone to run flaky stories, and I don't consider them particularly trustworthy. It might be an early warning flag, though, and worth watching to see what really happens.

36 posted on 04/14/2002 6:01:20 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: RamsNo1
What is Wahabbism?Here's some information.
37 posted on 04/14/2002 6:08:46 PM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: thud
A saudi prince says home ping.
38 posted on 04/14/2002 6:09:02 PM PDT by Dark Wing
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To: sinkspur
Arafat is a mass-murderer!

Official Israeli Defense Force Website, Highly Informative click here

39 posted on 04/14/2002 6:12:29 PM PDT by Surrounded in Calif!
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To: sinkspur
Isn't this the clown who tried to embarrass Guiliani with a check and then a lecture about America's foreign policy?

No, that was a different clown.

But then, they have a lot of them.

40 posted on 04/14/2002 6:33:54 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: happygrl
What you need to know of that particular clown is that he was going to give NY- for propaganda purposes- $10,000,000.

This past week in the Saudi telethon for suicide bombers he donated $25,000,000.

41 posted on 04/14/2002 6:37:05 PM PDT by Sabramerican
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To: sinkspur
...so long will they be a little people, a silly people, greedy, barbarous, and cruel...
42 posted on 04/14/2002 6:39:11 PM PDT by mgstarr
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To: Nachum
His not visiting the Bush ranch should embarrass no one. I hope he and the rest of his “suspected” terrorist supporters like the taste of their oil.
43 posted on 04/14/2002 6:40:33 PM PDT by RAY
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To: VA Advogado
third world rug bizzares.

I think you might mean Bazaars.

But then again, Bizzares, Bazaars To-MA-to, to-MAH-to, let's call the whole thing off !!!

44 posted on 04/14/2002 6:43:16 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: Jolly Green; dennisw
I just wonder ... does there have to be a Saudi Arabia?

A follow on to "Does there really need to be a Mecca...."

45 posted on 04/14/2002 6:44:54 PM PDT by history_matters
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To: Nachum
Well, there are, what, 20,000 princes in Saudi Arabia, and we really, really want to have one visit Bush why not invite another one, I bet half of them are named Abdullah anyhow!
46 posted on 04/14/2002 6:49:24 PM PDT by Revolting cat!
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To: sinkspur
Isn't this the clown who tried to embarrass Guiliani with a check and then a lecture about America's foreign policy?

No it isn't. You're thinking of Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal who is a large investor in the U.S. stock market. Prince Abdullah is different.

47 posted on 04/14/2002 6:53:51 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: history_matters
All those countries are arbitrary carvings the British made after WW1. We also found and developed the oil they use to blackmail us with now.

Rather than Nevada, Saudi Arabia is looking like a better spot to store our nuclear waste. Remember that wayward garbage barge from New York from years ago? How about parking that in Jiddah harbor for a while.

What little patience I had for these people is gone.

48 posted on 04/14/2002 6:56:10 PM PDT by mgstarr
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To: Sabramerican
Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal ...
49 posted on 04/14/2002 7:06:36 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: mgstarr
Rather than Nevada, Saudi Arabia is looking like a better spot to store our nuclear waste. Remember that wayward garbage barge from New York from years ago? How about parking that in Jiddah harbor for a while. What little patience I had for these people is gone.

I agree with you 100 percent.

50 posted on 04/14/2002 7:21:22 PM PDT by history_matters
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