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Jerry Golden "REPORT" from Israel: The Time Is Very Close!
The Golden Report ^ | 4-15-02 | Jerry Golden

Posted on 04/15/2002 12:16:07 AM PDT by 2sheep

The Time is Very Close!

  The Sovereign State of Israel says they will not negotiate with this devil Yasser Arafat. Our Prime Minister has declared him irreverent. This Jew killing monster has been proven time and time again to be not only an enemy to the Jews and the State of Israel but to the entire civilized world. He has been run out of the surrounding Arab Nations and forced into exile by Lebanon, and Jordan in the recent past, and Egypt will not allow these people who call themselves Palestinians to even come there. Yet Colin Powell comes to Israel as our guest and then goes against the policy of Israel and he and Shimon Peres tries once again to save this devil so he can one day to do us more harm.

In the Gulf War Yasser Arafat joined Saddam Hussein in murdering other Arabs, and today he has purchased one of Saddam Hussein's mansions as a place to go into exile when the time comes. And today the PLO Charter still calls for the destruction of the State of Israel, which is never brought up in the UN. When over two thirds of all the resolutions passed in the UN are against Israel.

Before 1917 when the British took control of Jerusalem from the Turks there was not only no such people as Palestinians there were very few Arabs on this land called Israel today. In fact, they didn't start calling themselves Palestinians until after the 6 Day War in 1967. This land was named Palestine by the Romans who did it as an insult to the Jews and in an attempt to strip it of any Jewish Identity. But the truth still remains that for more than 3,000 years, Jerusalem has been the capitol of the Jewish people. In fact, no other people on earth have ever called it their capitol but the Jewish people. King David, not Mohammed founded the city of Jerusalem, Jews always pray facing Jerusalem, and Moslems pray facing Mecca, while turning their backs to Jerusalem. In the Bible the name Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times, and never mentioned once in the Koran.

As Bible Believing, God fearing people, who read the Word of God, we know that in the end times Jerusalem will be a cup of trembling. Zechariah 12:2. We also know that God will gather "ALL" nations against Jerusalem to battle, we also read in Zechariah 14:2b and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city. It is now becoming obvious that the half of the city mentioned here is East Jerusalem, or the Old City. But for those who think they will escape the wrath of God because they are not in Jerusalem should read Zechariah 12:9-10: And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. And I will pour upon the house of David and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplication: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced...

We are about to see the great and mighty hand of God as it not only comes down and purges and makes pure His people Israel, but we will see His judgment of all the nations that come against His people. But the part that interests me the most is "and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced" for I believe this is why I am here as are many others. God has and is placing certain Jewish Believers throughout this land for a revival among the Jewish people, and He (God) is choosing those to be a blessing to Israel throughout His Kingdom. (Gen. 12:3)  No doubt there will be hell to pay before it happens, but we will be left standing and when the smoke clears God's Word will go forth from Jerusalem, and they (my precious Jewish people) will look upon Him whom we have pierced. Glory to God, I just have to stop and shout.

So even with the evil acts of many men, I can see in this visit of Colin Powell, and the double standards of President Bush in regards to Israel and Terrorism the Hand of God. I know it is the God I serve who is in control. But make no mistake about it, Bush and Powell will bring judgment down on the heads of those who live in the United States, and it shall rain on the just and the unjust alike.

The Devil has unleashed his religions weapon "Islam" on the world and it is now working full force on a global basis. Yasser Arafat is but one of his tools to destroy the "people of the Book" Jews and Christians around the world. Yasser Arafat is filled with the spirit of anti-Christ and he is preparing the way for the one that will be called the Anti-Christ. Time is running very short for us to be about the Father's business, to put aside all our foolishness and to give all that we are and have acquired to serve and too bless God.

I woke this morning an hour early at 4:00 o'clock to read the Word and pray, as we have a big day ahead of us, and will be traveling here in Israel. I am blessed to have [my son] Joel with me today, if you should get this in time, we would appreciate your prayers. Also for this car to keep running until we are able to purchase one more reliable.

Pray for the peace of Jerusalem, for our son Joel, for this Ministry and your part in it.  [Emphasis Added]

jerry golden
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Verses mentioned above:

Zec 12:2 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.  3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

Zec 12:9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Zec 14:2b ...and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.  3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

Ge 12:3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

1 posted on 04/15/2002 12:16:07 AM PDT by 2sheep
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To: Prodigal Daughter;Thinkin' Gal;Jeremiah Jr; AlGone2001; boston_liberty; brat; bray...
2 posted on 04/15/2002 12:19:57 AM PDT by 2sheep
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To: 2sheep
didn`t this same kind of trash talk come from Germany in the 30`s? Listen to what you are saying.
3 posted on 04/15/2002 12:22:29 AM PDT by bybybill
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To: 2sheep
4 posted on 04/15/2002 12:23:08 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: 2sheep
"This Jew killing monster has been proven time and time again to be not only an enemy to the Jews and the State of Israel but to the entire civilized world."

And the Nobel committee has dared to bestow a "peace prize" on him.

6 posted on 04/15/2002 12:29:42 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: bybybill
"didn`t this same kind of trash talk come from Germany in the 30`s?"

Funny that you should ask that, bbb. The trash spoken by Arafat to his "palestinian" rabble is identical in every respect to the hateful rhetoric of Adolph Hitler. In fact, Arafat embarked on his murderous rampage against Jews around the same time Hitler did. It's all there -- the blood libel, the calls for racial "cleansing," the degrading epithets. Did you know that most of the arab states were nazi allies back then?

8 posted on 04/15/2002 12:35:26 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Lazarus Long
"...Arafat's prize makes perfect sense."

Yep. Same thing goes for the Pulitizer and half a dozen other "prestigious awards."

9 posted on 04/15/2002 12:37:09 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Lazarus Long; GeronL;Bonaparte
Ever notice how people who write like they are wearing white sheets all tend to hate the Jews?  Whether KKK or Hamas, they are of their father the devil.
10 posted on 04/15/2002 1:07:27 AM PDT by 2sheep
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To: Bonaparte; Lazarus Long; GeronL; dennisw
Two of the phrases that set flags off for me are these:

>Yet Colin Powell comes to Israel as our guest and then goes against the policy of Israel and he and Shimon Peres tries once again to save this devil so he can one day to do us more harm.

>Bush and Powell will bring judgment down on the heads of those who live in the United States, and it shall rain on the just and the unjust alike.

Some prophecy scholars see America taken out by a consortium of her enemies (Russia, China, N. Korea, Arab co-op) in judgment from God before a final war against Israel.  Others look at the phrase "at the same time" in Ezekiel 38.  Perhaps there are two wars.  Perhaps only one.  We watch.  This is certain -- to side with Muslims against Israel is really dumb, as is deserting Israel.

11 posted on 04/15/2002 1:14:58 AM PDT by 2sheep
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To: 2sheep
Bush and Powell will bring judgment down on the heads of those who live in the United States,

Sad, but true. The Bible is non-negotiable. When God says he will destroy those nations that seek to divide his land, and specificly mentions the Hills of Judea in context with the return of his people, Bush by calling for a Palestinian State to be formed in the West Bank (or the Judean Hills), called judgement on America. No way to argue, only wait for the hammer to fall.

Funny a guy that is a "Christian" Leader of his Nation would not know that. Must not have a Bible.

13 posted on 04/15/2002 5:25:29 AM PDT by American in Israel
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To: 2sheep
Those who wear those white sheets remind me of what Jesus said about the cup being white and clean on the outside...but 'eeeeewwwwww' on the inside.

Anyone who knows ANYTHING about the Bible, knows that 'ya' shouldn't mess or betray Israel. They are the apple of His eye. SHAME on W.

14 posted on 04/15/2002 5:43:20 AM PDT by mommadooo3
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To: 2sheep
ROCK of ISREAL-To The Jew First HERE
15 posted on 04/15/2002 6:02:06 AM PDT by Matchett-PI
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To: 2sheep
The Great Premillennial HOAX

In 1970, Hal Lindsey came out with his monstrous best-selling book (15 million sold), "The Late Great Planet Earth." Since then, much of Evangelical Christianity has been obsessed with the signs of the times.

From 1971 until 1986, I was an active, visible participant in the Lutheran Charismatic Movement. Since the movement was highly influenced by Pentecostal thinking, in addition to adopting the theology of the Holy Spirit, many Lutheran Charismatics also adopted the eschatology of Pentecostals. I guess you might say, "We got the Holy Spirit, feathers and all." I adopted and also taught the Premillennial view of the end times. In fact, given the circumstances in the world, there was little doubt in my mind that this was the accurate understanding of Biblical prophecy.

May 13, 1981
The evening of May 13, 1981, was the regular meeting of the Ladies' Guild of Bethel Lutheran Church in Howard City, Mich. As pastor of the congregation, I attended the meeting and presented a topic for discussion.

May 13, 1981, was a very special evening for prophecy buffs. It could very well have been the last night that Christians would spend upon this earth. For if everything being said by the modern-day experts in Biblical prophecy was true, May 14 was the day of "the Rapture."

As the pastor, I felt it was my responsibility to share the why and wherefore of this momentous event with these women. Being good, traditional, Lutheran laypeople, they knew very little, if anything, about Biblical prophecy. It was my task to warn them of the event that might transpire within the next 24 hours.

By sharing this story with you, I hope to impart the essence of Premillennial thinking.

The Generation of the Fig Tree
The Biblical scenario I presented to these unsuspecting women, proving that the rapture would take place the next day, began with an interpretation of Matt. 24:32-34. Jesus said:

Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it is near, right at the door. I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.

What generation was Jesus talking about? Many scholars believed that it was the generation of the people that Jesus was addressing and that the events He was predicting were not the end of the world, but rather the destruction of Jerusalem. In fact, within 40 years, Jerusalem would be utterly destroyed.

While that is all well and good, there was another way of looking at these words of Jesus - a way that caused these predictions to become very real in the here and now.

From the notes in my Scofield Bible, I knew there would be a future restoration of Israel in the land. In Ez. 34:13, the prophet predicted that God would gather the Jews from the nations and bring them into their own land. Writing his notes in 1908, Scofield stated that this referred to a future restoration of the nation of Israel, or, as some perceived it, the budding of the fig tree. In the Old Testament, the nation of Israel was referred to as a fig tree. In Matt. 21:19, Jesus cursed the fig tree because it had no fruit. This was perceived as a rejection of Israel.

Well, on May 14, 1948, the fig tree budded. Israel became a nation as a result of a United Nations declaration. This date was vital to all Biblical prophecy experts. Israel was in the land. The countdown to the end had begun. We were indeed the generation of the fig tree. It was this generation that would see the end of all things. Since a generation was 40 years, the end would be in 1988.

Those who taught this view also taught, from Scripture, that before the end of all things, there would be a tribulation period of seven years according to the prophecies of Daniel. Rev. 7:14 speaks of the Great Tribulation. During those seven years, the anti-Christ would arise. He would be a political figure and, according to Dan. 7:24-25, he would be given authority by ten kings. Since the European Common market was forming and nearly ten nations had already come together, the time of the anti-Christ was soon upon us.

Other signs of the rise of the anti-Christ were obvious. Given the fact that scanning devices were beginning to become evident in grocery stores, could the "mark of the beast" be far behind? We would soon be in the position of having to make a choice when the government brands us with a mark on the right hand or forehead, without which we would not be able to buy or sell, according to Revelation 13.

In addition, Ezekiel 38 and 39 warned about the invasion of Israel by "Gog and Magog." According to the notes in my Scofield Bible, this referred to a time when Israel was in the land and Russia, advancing from the north, would invade them. The politics at that time allowed for this to be a very real possibility. The book of Ezekiel stated that God will destroy the Russian army and the buzzards would eat their flesh. A tract was being circulated that claimed the buzzards were laying twice as many eggs in Israel in order to have enough troops to eat the Russians. (I often wondered how they knew this.)

In 1967, the armies of Israel had captured the old city of Jerusalem, including temple mount. According to Ezekiel 40ff., the millennial temple was to be built. Everything was in order. An interesting rumor circulated that the stones for the temple were already carved out of Bedford, Ind., limestone and were hidden in caves. Other rumors stated that the Ark of the Covenant had been discovered under the temple site and that plans to rebuild were underway.

It was happening!
In 1978, I led my first trip to the land of Israel. There were four groups of Lutheran Charismatics taking the trip. I led one of the groups. The purpose of the trip was to attend a "Prophecy Conference" in Jerusalem, led by Derek Prince. Since so much of my thinking had been influenced by the popular Premillennial prophetic notions of the day, it was an exciting trip. Things were happening in the land. The people were restored. God seemed to be on their side as they went to battle against the enemies who surrounded them.

Prince spoke on the subject of parallel restorations, comparing the events in Israel with the events marking the growth of the Charismatic Movement. In 1948, when Israel became a nation, both the Billy Graham crusades and the Latter Rain Movement (early roots of the Charismatic Movement) started. In 1967, when Israel took the old city of Jerusalem, the Holy Spirit was poured out upon Roman Catholics at Notre Dame. In 1971, the Yom Kippur war broke out in Israel while the Holy Spirit moved mightily on the different denominations. For one participating in these events, these connections were obvious.

What was happening at the Dead Sea was very interesting. Zechariah 14 spoke of the return of the Messiah to the Mount of Olives, causing a great earthquake that would split the mount in two. Living water would flow from temple mount.

This stream of living water coming out of temple mount would flow to the Dead Sea and, according to Ezekiel (47:8ff):

This water flows toward the eastern region and goes down into the Arabah, where it enters the Sea. When it empties into the Sea, the water there becomes fresh. Swarms of living creatures will live wherever the river flows. There will be large numbers of fish, because this water flows there and makes the salt water fresh; so where the river flows everything will live. Fishermen will stand along the shore; from En Gedi to En Eglaim there will be places for spreading nets. The fish will be of many kinds - like the fish of the Great Sea. But the swamps and marshes will not become fresh; they will be left for salt.

Well, parts of this prophecy were already in place. The Dead Sea had been divided due to the lack of water flowing down from the Sea of Galilee. The fresh water from the Galilee was being pumped into the desert so that the "desert was blooming," as Is. 35:1-2 stated.

This lack of water to the Dead Sea divided the sea. As Ezekiel predicted, a portion would be left for salt after the rest of the Sea had been sweetened with the living water pouring out of temple mount. We even took a dip in the Dead Sea at En Gedi, rejoicing that one day this would be sweet water after Jesus returned. In fact, our guide, who catered to end-of-the-world-minded Christians, showed us fish ponds near the northern-most part of the Dead Sea which, according to his explanation, were being prepared for the time when the Dead Sea would be sweetened.

Back to May 13, 1981
A very important ingredient in the Premillennial scenario was "the rapture." Christians would not pass through the great seven-year tribulation. They would be taken out or snatched away and be with the Lord. In Matt. 24:38-41, Jesus spoke of one being taken and one being left. Also, 1 Thess. 4:17 "clearly" spoke of the Rapture:

After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.

The Rapture of the church was imminent. Hal Lindsey had stated that it was the next event in the prophetic scenario. I had a bumper sticker that read, "In case of rapture, this car will self-destruct." My favorite song was "The King Is Coming." According to the Premillennial scenario, the end of all things would be in 1988, or 40 years after Israel occupied in the land and the "fig tree blossoms." If you deduct seven years for the Tribulation, this means that on May 14, 1981, the rapture of the Church would take place. Therefore, this was a very exciting evening to be alive!

I shared every detail with the women of the Bethel Lutheran Church Ladies' Guild. After my presentation, one little elderly woman said, "Reverend, why are you scaring us?"

Well, May 14, 1988, came and went, and nothing happened. In fact, 1988 came and went and nothing happened. Since that time, the Soviet Union has disbanded. The European Common Market now includes far more than ten members and Israel is giving land back to the Palestinians. When the events did not pan out, some prophecy "experts" redated the blooming of the fig tree to 1967, when Israel occupied the old city of Jerusalem. This would put the time of the end in the year 2007 and the "rapture" in the year 2000. The Y2K scare also fueled the notion that this would be the start of the tribulation. Again, it didn't happen.

Having bought into this Premillennial way of thinking and living with great expectations that came to absolutely nothing brought me to the conclusion that this theology is the greatest hoax ever visited upon unsuspecting Christians. The hoax lives on. Despite of unfulfilled predictions, the thinking persists.

The Roots of the System
I embraced the Premillennial Dispensational way of thinking because it appeared to be the most reasonable explanation of the events that were occurring. It is the primary end-time position taught within much of modern Evangelical Christianity, even though all the predictions that have arisen as a result of this view have come to naught. What is the source of this teaching? How did it arise?

In 1832, Edward Irving (1792-1834) established the Catholic Apostolic Church and taught the imminent return of Jesus Christ. Irving believed there had to be a reestablishment of the 12 apostles before Jesus would return. He appointed these 12 apostles. Of course, one by one, they eventually died and Jesus never returned. John Nelson Darby, who founded the Plymouth Brethren in 1847 in England and Ireland, spearheaded the dispensational interpretation of the Bible. He was widely influenced by Edward Irving. Darby taught that Biblical history is divided into seven "dispensations" or periods of time. The final dispensation would be the 1000-year millennial reign of Christ on earth. An important key to understanding Dispensationalism is the notion that God will reestablish an earthly kingdom with the nation of Israel. For this reason, the events in Israel are of vital importance for the Premillennial Dispensationalist. Before the coming of Jesus, the temple would be rebuilt and the sacrificial system reinstated.

Because this kingdom was offered and then refused by the Jews, it would be offered again in the future. By crucifying Jesus, the Jews rejected the kingdom, but God did not reject Israel. As an after-thought or a parenthesis, Christ then went on to establish the church because Gentiles now believed what the Jews rejected. This is the "Church Age" spoken of by Dispensationalists and it must end before God can re-establish His primary work with the Jews. The church age ends with the rapture. Darby's Dispensational ideas caught on like wildfire in America, and were widely spread by the Scofield Reference Bible. Scofield, ____a layman___, having studied Biblical prophecy for 30 years, added notes to the text of Scripture promoting Darby¹s Dispensational theology. Many Christians today regard Scofield's notes as being equally inspired as the Bible itself.

Apparently, however, neither Darby nor Scofield originated the idea of a pre-tribulation rapture. Darby was inspired by **a woman** named Margaret MacDonald who reported a revelation given to her by God during a healing service in Port Glasgow, Scotland, in 1830. MacDonald reported that in her vision, there was a two-stage process to the Second Coming of Christ. The first stage, the rapture, removed the church from this world. Christians would be caught up before the great tribulation and be taken to heaven. After the tribulation, Jesus would return to earth and establish His millennial kingdom. These ideas were embraced by Darby, promoted by Scofield and developed more fully in many of the Bible schools like Moody, Fuller and especially Dallas Theological Seminary during the 20th century in the United States. Many of the more FANATICAL proponents of the premillennial view are graduates of Dallas Theological Seminary.

Bad Theology
This theological system is replete with errors.

1. The present-day nation of Israel is no more involved in God's plans for the future than is France, England, Germany, the United States, etc. The teaching of the New Testament is very clear - Jesus fulfilled everything pertaining to Israel and formed the New Israel, His church. It is an abomination to claim that the church is merely a parenthesis or an afterthought in the divine scheme of redemption. In fact, the Bible clearly states that the plans of God and the wisdom of God will be revealed in His church (Eph. 3:8-11).

2. Much of the "tribulation prophecy" in the Old Testament prophets, the Olivet discourses of our Lord Jesus, and the Book of Revelation was fulfilled in the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. When Jesus said in Matt. 24:32-34 that "this generation will not pass away," He was not referring to some future generation that would see the political nation of Israel established by the United Nations. He was referring to the generation alive at the time He spoke the words. His words were fulfilled. In 70 A.D. Jerusalem was utterly destroyed. In fact, there is a view of Biblical prophecy called Preterism. Those who hold the view claim that all futuristic prophecy was fulfilled in the First Century.

3. The teaching of two "second comings" of Jesus is not Biblical. As the Apostles' Creed simply states, "From thence he shall come to judge the living and the dead." On the mount of Ascension the angels told the disciples that He would come again in the same way they saw Him depart into heaven. Nowhere does the Bible teach two "second comings." The language of 1 Thess. 4:17 does not allow for the "rapture" teaching. The phrase "to meet the Lord" literally means "to meet for the purpose of welcoming back." The Greek phrase "to meet" ( eis apanthsin) is only used on four occasions in the New Testament. In each case it means to go out to meet for the purpose of welcoming. (See, for example, Acts 28:15.)

Premillennial Dispensationalism is a deceptive teaching. Those who promote these views and fill the minds of God's people with this nonsense are perpetrating a hoax.

Jesus is coming again. This is our glorious hope. Jesus told us to be about the business of preaching and teaching His Gospel and not speculate about His second coming. Those who believe in Jesus and trust His blood and righteousness for their salvation are prepared for His coming. "Even so, come Lord Jesus!" [end of article]


16 posted on 04/15/2002 6:04:49 AM PDT by Matchett-PI
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To: 2sheep
From Eden to Independence Hall
17 posted on 04/15/2002 6:21:15 AM PDT by Matchett-PI
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To: 2sheep
A sad bump:

"Some prophecy scholars see America taken out by a consortium of her enemies"

Jer 50:45-46
45 Therefore hear ye the counsel of the LORD, that he hath taken against Babylon; and his purposes, that he hath purposed against the land of the Chaldeans: Surely the least of the flock shall draw them out: surely he shall make their habitation desolate with them.
46 At the noise of the taking of Babylon the earth is moved, and the cry is heard among the nations.

Rev 17:16-18
16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.
18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

Rev 18:23
23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

18 posted on 04/15/2002 6:30:03 AM PDT by the-ironically-named-proverbs2
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To: Matchett-PI
"Jesus told us to be about the business of preaching and teaching His Gospel and not speculate about His second coming."

Can you help me out here and give me the chapter and verse that establishes this? "Watch therefore", and the parable of the virgins and their oil lamps, and several other verses, not to mention the book of Revelation, says to me that we are suppose to speculate, watch, and understand more and more as that time comes upon the world.

19 posted on 04/15/2002 7:11:25 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Matchett-PI
You must really want this to get out, this has to be the 3rd time I've seen you post the exact same thing. hehe

Actually, in all seriousness, I agree with you. I don't particularly care for the great "apocalyptic prognosticators" that always come out of the woodwork at times like these. I think if you're a real Christian, you just keep doing what you're supposed to be doing as a Christian, which is "Love one another, and do unto others as you would have done to yourself". If you do that, you really don't have to worry about anything else.

20 posted on 04/15/2002 7:14:28 AM PDT by FourtySeven
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