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Venezuela's Chavez resumes power - two-thirds of Venezuelans oppose him
Boston Globe ^ | April 15, 2002 | Mike Ceaser

Posted on 04/15/2002 4:01:14 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:07:42 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: justshutupandtakeit
When a man does what's right, even his enemies (media) will be at peace with him. Mr. Bush is trying to be everything to everybody and that won't work. Mr. Bush is no 'conservative'. Just look at the enormous expansion of government under his short administration.

And since when do we give any politician a free ride. Remember, he's a politician first.

21 posted on 04/15/2002 9:39:46 AM PDT by CWRWinger
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To: *Latin_America_list
Check the Bump List folders for articles related to and descriptions of the above topic(s) or for other topics of interest.
22 posted on 04/15/2002 9:42:03 AM PDT by Free the USA
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To: justshutupandtakeit
The principle enemy is not the RATs, necessarily. They may be he most visible manifestation of the enemy, but basically, both the major parties are almost identical at this point. The enemy is those who do not abide by the rule of law and the Constitution. Those who seek to 'legally' blunder for their own benefit and for the benefit of expanding tyranny and big government.

Haven't you noticed a repetitive pattern in the way politics are run today? At the start of the campaigning, they hit the South Carolinas and the core conservatives. Then they move on to the moderates and others, and by the time Inauguration Day comes along, they're spuing such barf, that it doesn't sound anything like what they said in SC. Then after they take office, it's like, "What's the Constitution".

23 posted on 04/15/2002 10:11:28 AM PDT by CWRWinger
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
Let us know what you find out. Thanks.
24 posted on 04/15/2002 10:44:26 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' wife; CWRWinger
Not over yet. Chavez should be the "conciliator" if he wants bonus points. Might not do that. He is Noriega. Has the same Cuban-designed goon squads too.

infoven.net @ 12:00 EDT

Venezuela today (Monday) remained in a state of chaos and uncertainty as military chiefs reportedly tried to iron out their differences while the west side of Caracas woke up looking like a disaster area following yesterday’s and overnight looting.

A high military source told VON that the armed forces were split into a group against and another in favor of President Hugo Chávez remaining in power.

“The only point of coincidence is that the presidency must guarantee democratic practices and justice,” the source said.

An early morning tour revealed that shops and businesses along the 3-mile stretch from Miraflores presidential palace to the suburb of Catia and at least six square blocks of Catia had been looted and vandalized, many building showing signs of fire.

The association of supermarkets (ANSA) complained that in the aftermath of Chávez’s return to power great part of the capital was left without police protection and said that preliminary estimates of losses suffered by affiliated supermarkets alone surpassed $600 million.

The streets of West Caracas were strewn with debris, burnt vehicles and tires and municipal authorities said that in Sunday’s marches by Chávez supporters at least another 11 persons were killed bringing the total of persons who lost their lives since Thursday to 34 with over 400 injured or wounded.

Chávez was temporarily ousted by a army chiefs and private sector leader Pedro Carmona installed in his place Friday morning.

But Chávez’ refusal to sign his resignation and Carmona’s immediate dissolution of the National Assembly and other powers did not please pro-Chávez military chiefs who barely agreed to his removal.

In a triumphant return after 18 hours of captivity, Chávez promised to rectify and to launch a conciliatory crusade with opposition forces, but only a few hours later, Sunday afternoon, he went back to his old rhetoric and aggressiveness addressing his old paratrooper regiment in the city of Maracay, 100 kilometers west of Caracas.

25 posted on 04/15/2002 11:06:21 AM PDT by Shermy
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To: CWRWinger
And where is the Bush Administration on this one? Another lost opportunity to strike a blow against terrorism.

Powell has made very pointed remarks about Chavez and his understanding of democracy. The Bush adm. has expressed concern about Chavez's supporters, his communist ties and anti-American comments. Christopher Dodd fought to keep Bush's nominee, Otto Juan Reich, from getting a hearing on his nomination as sec. for Western Hemisphere affairs and Bush finally gave him a recess appointment. Reich has been extremely outspoken about Castro and knows the people and the politics in this area very well. Powell had said Reich, a former ambassador to Venezuela, was the most important among the State Department's unconfirmed nominees. That, as well making inroads with an initiative to help poor nations that respect human rights, root out corruption, open their markets, and have education and health care systems, is where the Bush adm. has been.

Hugo Chavez- Venezuela

Fidel Castro - Cuba

26 posted on 04/15/2002 11:08:10 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: hchutch
FARC: A Terrorist Regime Waits in the Wings --And it's supported by Hugo Chavez.
27 posted on 04/15/2002 11:09:19 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cicero
Who can doubt that he will move swiftly to suspend remaining freedoms and liquidate potential opponents?

I think his check list is just about done.

28 posted on 04/15/2002 11:10:26 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: TexasRepublic
It will take Chavez about 20 years to reduce Venezuela to the status of Mugabe's Zimbabwe.

I certainly hope he won't be there that long. Although he has said, he wants to be "president" for twenty more years.

29 posted on 04/15/2002 11:12:54 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Shermy
Thank you for the update. Here's a picture of Chavez's Chavistas handiwork. to go with it.


Firefighters work on looted shops in Caracas, Venezuela, Monday, April 15, 2002. Looting erupted throughout Caracas as President Hugo Chavez returned to office on the wings of a popular uprising early Sunday, two days after he was ousted and arrested by Venezuela's military. (AP Photo/Ricardo Mazalan)

30 posted on 04/15/2002 11:17:48 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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OPPOSITION REMAINS [Excerpt] But serious questions also remained over how Chavez intended to deal with the strong civilian opposition against him, which had mounted in recent month and culminated in a huge anti-government protest march Thursday, in which around half a million people converged on the presidential palace.

"The march was a clear message from society to Chavez that it didn't like the way he was heading, but I don't know whether he's capable of understanding that," analyst Toro said.

Unidentified snipers shooting from rooftops opened fire on the demonstrators Thursday, killing 17 people and injuring over 100. The officers who deposed Chavez Friday blamed him and his militant supporters for the killings.

In his speech late Sunday in Maracay, Chavez denounced the attempted putsch against him as a "coup by the oligarchy," suggesting that it was promoted by a wealthy political and business elite backed by like-minded military officers.

But political analysts said this interpretation ignored the visible strength of the internal opposition against the outspoken leader, which before the failed coup had been voiced by business and labor chiefs, Catholic Bishops, opposition media barons, as well as dissident military officers.

"He is facing enormous civilian opposition." Teodoro Petkoff, editor of the TalCual daily, said. He urged Chavez to seek a genuine national consensus with his opponents to restore order and confidence in the troubled country.

Chavez had said Sunday there would be no witchhunt and he called for dialogue and reconciliation. But his opponents were deeply skeptical. "I have enormous reservations about this call for dialogue. Let's hope, God willing, it will happen and that calm and tranquillity can be restored," anti-Chavez union boss Carlos Ortega said. [End Excerpt]

31 posted on 04/15/2002 11:24:52 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Here's a BBC article from earlier today.

Chastened Chavez promises change

32 posted on 04/15/2002 11:27:05 AM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy
The LIBERAL press is falling all over him, aren't they?
Boo-hoo!! Boo-hoo-hoo!! I'll be better after I take the rest of your liberties and jail all the nasty opposition.

Yeah, right!

33 posted on 04/15/2002 11:37:16 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Looks like it will be the brown trucks again.

Forget being civilized, read "The Prince" by Niccolo Machiavelli.

And next time just shoot him. Sure there will be a world outcry for a bit but they'll get over it. Better that then what you have now.

a.cricket

34 posted on 04/15/2002 11:44:29 AM PDT by another cricket
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To: another cricket
Like "the ugly" said, If you're going to shoot, shoot, don't talk.
35 posted on 04/15/2002 11:48:04 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Thank you for the information. I will consider what you said.

If no Chavez would mean no or less oil to Castro, then we would be better off without Chavez.

36 posted on 04/15/2002 11:49:09 AM PDT by CWRWinger
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To: CWRWinger
You're correct on the oil. The new govt. would have cut Castro off - even said so. He's getting it free from Chavez.
37 posted on 04/15/2002 12:09:04 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
If Bush or the Republican party ever dropped to 33% approval ratings in the polls, I wouldn't take that as any kind of justification for a military coup against them. YMMV and probably does.
38 posted on 04/15/2002 9:13:29 PM PDT by ConsistentLibertarian
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