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New Annual Stats: ABORTION IS BIG BUSINESS FOR PLANNED PARENTHOOD
EWTN ^ | 4-16-2002 | Lifesite News

Posted on 04/16/2002 8:08:56 PM PDT by Notwithstanding

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To: hocndoc
Yeah, me too. And thanks for spelling out the stem cell issue. It's as I suspected: embryonic stem cell research doesn't require the destruction of the embryo. Now can we all get together and support a requirement that any federally funded research on embryonic stem cells use techniques that don't destroy the embryo? I personally don't have any moral objection to destroying embryos at the blastocyst stage, but I do have a moral objection to using the money of people who do object to it to conduct research which could clearly be conducted without doing the thing they have a moral objection to.

It's past my bedtime, and I'm going to turn in now.

G'night.

61 posted on 04/17/2002 10:32:36 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Most of their clientele is low income, and thus disproportionately black and other dark-skinned "minorities". The sad fact is that there's an endless supply of these kids, and few decent adoptive homes for them. Telling a pregnant black woman to "put your baby up for adoption" is simply lying to them -- the reality will almost always be a life of bouncing around from one foster care facility to another, most of them institutional rather than actual homes. If that kid gets a home, it will only be by preventing another kid from getting a home. But if they tell the mothers the truth, often the mother will decide to keep the child herself -- even if she's an adolescent and/or already on welfare and/or addicted to drugs and/or is living with an abusive boyfriend. Then the kid gets badly damaged before being yanked by the child welfare agency, and dropped in foster care -- it's hard enough placing healthy black newborns; damaged black toddlers barely have any chance of adoption. The agencies that try to place these kids are already overwhelmed, and now they've got black activist leaders of the Sharpton-Jackson ilk suing them for charging lower fees for placing black babies.

Fess up, you're really Margaret Sanger incarnate.

62 posted on 04/17/2002 10:37:31 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: George from New England
I take that to be ANTI-Catholic

Chill out.

I was commenting on the author's lack of personal education being a justification for depriving everyone of a good education.

63 posted on 04/17/2002 11:10:30 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Most but not all breast cancers are estrogen fueled. That is the common link between abortion, the Pill, and estrogen replacement therapy. I see where you are going with the overweight issue but that's not it. Overweight people create more ESTROGEN. It all goes back to that link. The more exposure to estrogen a woman has in her lifetime, the greater the risk.
64 posted on 04/17/2002 11:49:02 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: goldenstategirl
Thanks for exposing your complete naivete. I believe you've said before that you work in government right?

Nope, I do not now, and never have, worked for the government.

That's good because you have no future in healthcare or business.

Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm doing quite well as a banker -- pulling down over $200K a year, without much effort. If I want more, it's mine for the taking, but I'm kind of fond of my relaxed life.

What successful businessperson is going to continue to sell a product that they lose money on?

Actually some businesses do it for many years running -- check out the airlines. But that's not really relevant, since PP is not a "business" in that its purpose isn't to make money -- it has a social and political mission, not a financial one. Most nonprofits carry on a variety of activities that lose money on a standalone basis -- hospitals treat patients who they know can't pay, universities offer upper level courses that only a handful of students are interested in and qualified for, and that don't come close to breaking even. Even some for-profit businesses engage in some loss-generating activities, when profit isn't their only motivation. I used to coach gymnastics, and virtually all gymnastics clubs lose money on their competitive team programs, which are the real motivation for the business owner and coaches to work there -- the once a week recreational classes subsidize the team, because on an hourly basis, the parents are paying about 20 times as much for the rec classes as for the 20-30 hour a week team training programs.

Please tell me how Planned Parenthood can keep their doors open if they are spending more money than they are taking in?

Where did I allege that they're spending more money than they're taking in? I just pointed out that there's a huge difference between money taken in and money "made", and that calling their gross revenues from abortion "money made", as if they incurred no expenses whatsoever in connection with these procedures, is false and misleading.

They have to be making money.

Businesses only need to break even to stay in business. And just who do you think is "making money" from PP?

Do you think Planned Parenthood is going to fully disclose their finances to whomever asks?

They are required to file their audited financials with the IRS, which makes a summary public. They also have to provide their financials to all the philanthropic organizations which give them financial support, and those organizations usually require a lot of additional financial information as well. STOPP has reviewed their audited financials. And if "nobody but their administrators and accountants knows the truth" then why are you so sure that STOPP's conclusions are valid?

A non-profit director who makes 324,000 is making damn good money. That's just the amount on paper. I've seen that woman make the rounds on the New York party circuit. She's not hurting for cash. Most non-profit directors around the country make well under 100,000.

Most non-profits are nowhere near the size of PP, and their senior executives resumes don't qualify them for higher salaried positions at large national orgnanizations. But the valid comparison isn't with other non-profits, but with what the individuals in question could make in the for-profit sector. Non-profit salaries lag far, far behind those in for-profit businesses, and no one is pursuing a career in non-profits if their main motivation is to make money. $324K obviously sounds like a lot of money to you, but Ms. Feldt could easily double or triple her earnings by going to work in the private sector.

"Making the rounds on the New York party circuit" is a horrible chore performed by people who have to do it in connection with their jobs (no amount of money would induce me to take a job which required me to do this). People who represent non-profits are generally there as invited guests; most of the parties are fundraisers for non-profit organizations, and charge a bundle for each table. When someone like Gloria Feldt attends these things, it is in an effort to raise money that goes to their employer, not to themselves.

Please tell me what in your educational background qualifies you to dismiss dozens of sound, accepted medical studies performed by researchers all over the world from different cultures, religious persuasions and political ideologies over the span of 40 years?

For starters, I was trained as a lawyer, and have no trouble seeing why it's impossible to require an organization, business, or individual to "disclose" risks suggested by studies which the leading scientific organizations in the relevant field dismiss as seriously flawed and inconclusive. There are also lots of studies which conclude that the earth is undergoing rapid, human-induced "global warming", and that we're all going to be inundated by rising sea levels and starved by disruption of agriculture. These studies are done by real scientists, with real credentials, and real jobs at real universities, and are accompanied by reams of data which "prove" their conclusions. But they are seriously disputed by a lot of other serious scientists, whose studies reach very different conclusions. Fortunately, our legal system doesn't empower judges to shut down the economy on the basis of the scaremongers' disputed studies.

65 posted on 04/18/2002 5:40:23 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: jwalsh07
How many abused black toddlers have YOU adopted?
66 posted on 04/18/2002 6:15:56 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker
It's staggering to me that the researchers aren't beating a path to your door for advice. I'll send them right over since you seem to have all the answers.

Life has a way of teaching us the lessons we don't want to learn. Good luck to you in your health and business.

67 posted on 04/18/2002 10:54:57 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: victim soul
If Bush wants to make a sea change in Washington, this would be a good place to start.
68 posted on 12/14/2002 11:46:54 AM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
No, it's Orwellian Newspeak.

Their leaders and logo make a mockery of the very meaning of the word -- Parenthood.

They use the benign to hide their evil seducing our children into casual and promiscuous sex with their only kept promise; safety from parenthood.

They are population controllers extraordinare. All they really care about is Barrenhood.

Tell your Congressmen, State officials, school superintendents etc to stop funding and promoting this evil.

69 posted on 12/14/2002 7:41:47 PM PST by victim soul
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