Skip to comments.THE MASSACRE THAT WASN'T
Posted on 04/17/2002 2:34:36 AM PDT by kattracksEdited on 05/26/2004 5:05:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
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So no bodies in a mass grave, but there still was a mass murder right, and you call this truth? Have you always been an idiot or are you a product of generational inbreeding? The word "truth" means facts without distortional lies. Just thought you might like to know the meaning of the word before you make yourself look like a bigger jackass then you already appear to be! SHOW ME THE BODIES! SHOW ME THE BODIES!!
Truth sits precariously on the shifting sands of their deserts. You can't believe the moslems. Why aren't more people waking up to that fact, that's the real question, instead of waiting for moslem "truths" to be proven true someday.
A little while back the local thugs from Children's Protective Services showed up at my door. Apparently someone told them that we were witholding food from our children. It was now up to me to prove that I never did. I showed them my healthy children. That wasn't good enough. They asked the children if we ever refused to give them food and the children categorically denied it. That wasn't good enough. We gave them access to medical records. That wasn't good enough. We had their doctor write a letter. That wasn't good enough. We got testimonial letters from their teachers (including a personal gym trainer). That wasn't good enough. It took additional blood work and a visit to a nutritionist to satisfy them - all because of a phone call by another suspicious (and probaby competitive) person set them on our tail and we had to prove a negative against no substantive evidence of a positive.
Forgive me if this sounds a little personal, but you sound just like those thugs. We don't know anything went on there but what the facts reveal. It isn't up to Israel to prove they never did anything just because some people are suspicious. It is up to the suspicious people to provide some proof.
Provide some proof, any proof, and I will be up in front with you demanding an investigation. But if all you have is "something must have happened" then I must politely ask you to, in the words of Katherine Hepburn, "get permanently lost".
Precisely. Show me any evidence and I will join in demanding an investigation. But give me an ominous "We all know something must have happened" and you can go suck eggs.
Excuse me if I sound a little frustrated.
You got off lucky. CPS routinely abducts such children and once in their custody they get them to say whatever CPS wants them to say. And even if that is the ONLY evidence, they'll use it to convict you (juvenile/family court does not follow due process/preponderance of the evidence/etc.) and permanently remove your children from your home into the abusive foster care system (50% of all child abuse deaths occur in foster care/a child is 10 times more likely to be abused in foster care than anywhere else). You are so lucky as are your children.
As for Jethro Tull, he and I have, in the past, been on the same sheet of music. The disonant chords he's striking here baffle me. He's lost it or something.
Lucky after having done my part to put my lawyers' children through college.
It's odd how often professional people like lawyers use the word "gestapo" when discussing this particular form of social "services." Once the dust has settled I'm thinking of starting an organization to try to improve the legal climate a little for those of us who are innocent. I understand the issues involved when the parent is actually a danger to their children (and I recognize you are only taking my word for my own situation) but there should be more due process than there is.
But that's another thread topic.
You're wrong here. You're not even CLOSE to being right.
As soon as I started to hear from 'unspecified' sources about a massacre in Jenin, the FIRST thing that leapt to my mind was, unspecified=palistinian.
Then yesterday when I read an article posted from "The Independent", one of the UK's main newspeaks, that there were 'war crimes' but it was 'ominous' that there were NO bodies laying around, I KNEW that we were being lied to.
You do yourself no service by being rabid over stories that are so easily disprovable. People simply turn you off after a while and treat you like a child.
Just my humble opinion.
There are several such organizations. One of the best books on how to defend yourself is Profane Justice: A Comprehensive Guide to Asserting Your Parental Rights by Suzanne Shell. You can order the book and find out more about her organization at www.profane-justice.org
I'm currently working with her on a few projects of my own. You can read more about those projects in another thread.
Oh hell, I believe three tragedies happened in Jenin.
1.The Israelis did not have JDAMs at their disposal to take out the Pallie terrorists from above.
2.As a result, the IDF had to go house-to-house. As a result, 15 IDF reservists were killed who did not have to be.
3.Some Pallie terrorists actually escaped. The only good terr is a dead terr, ya' know.
Damn, Jethro, you're right. There was tragedy all around!
Be Seeing You,
The writer mentions Kosovo, but does not bother to say that the mass graves were not found there either. And when they weren't found, the same claims cropped up that the Serbs had spirited the bodies away. I haven't heard much about those claims for months, ever since Milosevic was delivered to the Hague.
The head of the organised crime unit, Dragan Karleusa, has openly accused Milosevic and his supporters of ordering the destruction of criminal evidence of crimes committed by Serbian forces against the ethnic Albanian civilian population. He said that some 800 ethnic Albanians are thought to have been buried in mass graves around Belgrade, including the Batajnica site.
Some of these bodies came from the freezer trucks that popped up in the Danube and were subsequently removed, destroyed with their contents reburied on police training grounds at Batajnica. Evidence on the re-burial was given by one detective who discovered the freezer in the Danube and who helped in its removal along with the bodies.
Dear America's Resolve:
Thanks for your reply, but your attempt at objectivity falls pitifully short.
Perhaps you missed post #9?
The mere mention of a possible slaughter by the IDF brought a knee-jerk cry of Dr Goebbels by your friends on the neocon, fascist right.
BTW, the "Independent" isn't the only newspaper screaming for an investigation into Jenin. It's a global thing. It's only the Amen Corner and their bootlicks who continue to deny the stench of rotting children...
Death Toll Unknown After Jenin Raid
Publication: AP Online; Author: LAURA KING,
While the number of dead remains a mystery, the magnitude of the destruction is an unassailable reality. In what had been a neighborhood in the middle of the camp, where concrete houses stood so close together that two people could barely pass in the alleyways, a zone roughly the size of two football fields was pounded into ruin.
But no one knows yet whether the enormous property damage _ the pulverizing of perhaps 60 homes and apartment buildings, each of them two to four stories high _ translates into a correspondingly large loss of life.
"How can you assess something like this?" said Jessica Barry of the International Committee of the Red Cross, who was in the camp on Tuesday, gesturing toward mountains of wreckage strewn with dust-covered belongings: books, shoes, cooking pots. "It's too vast for one organization to do."
I would be very interested to see how you reacted to the various homicide bombings of Jews in Israel.
The only tragedy that occured in Jenin was that not enough Terrorists got to see that 72-year old virgin.
Be Seeing You,
Yo, what the freak is up with that stupid cartoon?
I feel like I'm communicating with a 15 y/o acne studded, hamburger flipper...
Anyway, it isn't the terrorists I'm concerned about. It's the ham handed way the bloated butcher Sharon does children.
I hear he likes them well done.
Time will tell about Jenin and your 'heroic' IDF...
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