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Conservative Alternative to Girl Scouts Building Membership
CNSNEWS ^ | 4/17/02 | Jason Pierce

Posted on 04/17/2002 6:01:19 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

The Girl Scouts of America, 3.7 million strong, have in recent years made the use of the word "God" optional in the Girl Scout Promise and have adopted a neutral stance toward homosexuality, unlike the Boy Scouts of America, a group that bars homosexuals from serving as scout leaders.

Convinced that the Girl Scouts no longer reflects traditional values, Patti Garibay of Cincinnati, Ohio, in 1995 developed an alternative organization -- the American Heritage Girls. The group started with only 100 girls from the Cincinnati area, including surrounding areas in Ohio, Kentucky and Indiana, but today has swelled to 1,200 members.

Now, the American Heritage Girls are looking to expand nationwide, and have already staked a claim in Santa Rosa, Calif. and Abilene, Kan.

Garibay said she was motivated to leave the Girl Scout organization when the group decided it would take no position on homosexuality.

"That was a red flag for myself, because I had been a Girl Scout leader for 13 years, and was very involved," Garibay said. "As a Christian woman, I was saying, 'boy what is going on here? This doesn't sound right.'"

Garibay said she and some other parents began to investigate the other changes that officials from the Girl Scouts of America were pushing.

"We realized in 1995 that we weren't going to be able to change much with our local council, much less with our national council, so it was time to start something new," Garibay said.

Among the first decisions made by Garibay and other organizers of the American Heritage Girls was to create a Christian-inspired oath for the girls: "I promise to love God, Cherish my family, Honor my country, and Serve in my community."

Garibay said religious faith is essential to teaching the girls about values.

"We are based on Judeo-Christian values, non-denominational," Garibay said. "Our troops are all chartered by churches, or private schools, civic groups; therefore they own the program, just like the Boy Scouts.

"That way, if they would like to put an emphasis on a doctrinal kind of belief, they can do so," she said.

The American Heritage Girls rely on members and friends of the organization for financial support.

When asked whether the group is open to taking money from the government or organizations like the United Way, Garibay said: "No. And it's not easy not doing that."

"That would defeat our purposes if we did, because we would be tied to non-belief systems," she said.

Garibay said the American Heritage Girls are much like the Girl Scouts, in that girls work toward merit badges, have ranks, and do service projects. Many American Heritage Girl activities are based in the outdoors, in order to teach the girls outdoor survival skills like horseback riding, canoeing and the building of campfires.

But American Heritage Girls are also taught traditionally feminine skills, like sewing, cooking, and laundry as well.

"Yes, we do say these are skills you are going to need ladies, and you might as well learn them," Garibay said. "We believe the girls should be happy in whatever choice they make in life, and that homemaking is just as honorable a profession as being a lawyer.

"We are certainly not putting chains on these girls, saying this is all you can do," she said.

In July of 2001, Alexus Ranniar, a spokeswoman with the Girl Scouts of America, said that in some areas of the country, depending on community norms, the scouts "may offer educational workshops on topics in human sexuality." said Ranniar. Those topics "are discussed from an informative, rather than an advocacy view," Ranniar added.

However, since Garibay believes it is the parents' responsibility to discuss sexual matters with their children, her organization does not address such issues, with the exception of helping girls understand Christian, abstinence-based programs.

"We don't believe that you teach people about sexual function without morality," Garibay said.

"We believe that it is important to have a moral foundation when you are doing character building with kids, and that is where we are concerned that the Girl Scouts have fallen away to moral relativism," Garibay said. "There is no foundational belief that says it is right or wrong.

"We have an emphasis on service, but also on importance of a spiritual belief, of religion in your life, or the importance of family, and the importance of honoring and serving your country," she said.

Ellen Christie Ach, a spokeswoman with the Girl Scouts of America, refused to comment about the American Heritage Girls or the policy differences between the two groups.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: culture; scouts

1 posted on 04/17/2002 6:01:19 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
What a wonderful alternative to the Girl Scouts. I, too, have been very unhappy with the liberal agenda being taught in the Girl Scouts. Thank God someone did something about it and started this great organization. I think we should all support them in any way we can.
2 posted on 04/17/2002 6:09:09 AM PDT by maeng
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To: maeng
right on!
3 posted on 04/17/2002 6:13:48 AM PDT by RAY
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Another alternative is Pioneer Clubs, a nondenominational Christian organization active in many churches throughout the nation. I was a Pioneer leader for many years, and we had children in our group from all different backgrounds, churched and unchurched, wealthy families and welfare families. We did crafts, played games, sang, learned Bible lessons, did service projects for people overseas and just about everything scouts do.
4 posted on 04/17/2002 6:17:53 AM PDT by mountaineer
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I remember G. Gordon Liddy talking about a Girl Scout Group in Cincy that was teaching how to put condoms on and masturbate!! I wonder if this group came out of that disgusting happening. Liddy got the Group Leader on and BLASTED her for a long time...it was GREAT!! It started from a conservative columnist's article in the Cleveland Plain Dealer titled.."It's Enough To Make You Toss Your Cookies"!!!

Yeah for this lady!

5 posted on 04/17/2002 6:18:59 AM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Thanks for posting this. I've stopped supporting Girl Scouts because of their politics.

Here's their website.
www.ahgonline.org

6 posted on 04/17/2002 6:20:30 AM PDT by ao98
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I wouldnt buy a Girl Scout cookie and for anything. My girls go to Missionettes. Great progam at another church in the area. They also go to Pioneer Girl camp. Wonderful progams that leave Mom and Dad in charge.
7 posted on 04/17/2002 6:34:37 AM PDT by mlmr
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Thanks for posting this - if they haven't done it already, the Girl Scouts organization will make "Daisy Chains" with Daisies (beginning scouts). Fund-raising cookie sales, especially right after the winter holiday season, were silly and sent the wrong message to kids who were capable outside the kitchen.

The GS door slammed for me as a parent when I heard the regional GS leader talking about how lesbians were welcome to their organization. Kids are smart enough to know who is queer--they don't need introduction and instruction. Away with the Girl Scout organization.

8 posted on 04/17/2002 6:43:04 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Ellen Christie Ach, a spokeswoman with the Girl Scouts of America, refused to comment about the American Heritage Girls or the policy differences between the two groups.

And yet she communicates volumes.

9 posted on 04/17/2002 6:44:40 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
A proud Eagle Scout bump to the American Heritage Girls program ...
10 posted on 04/17/2002 6:48:06 AM PDT by mgc1122
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
My daughter is a member of AWANA. It is a national organization and only in in conservative churches. It's completely Bible based and for boys and girls. It's a great program and you'll never hear anything about the homosexual agenda there!
11 posted on 04/17/2002 6:53:30 AM PDT by Lucky2
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Thanks so much for posting this. I was a Girl Scout when it WAS conservative (for 10 years, 1959-1969) - and have been unhappy with what I've been hearing lately - this gives me some options for volunteering.
12 posted on 04/17/2002 7:05:45 AM PDT by goodnesswins
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I have been looking for something else besides Girl Scouts for my daughter, How can I get started? I looked forward to having a little girl, and becoming her leader. Now I have a boy and two girls. My son is in boy scouts and we are happy with their organization, but my oldest oldest daughter is almost 8 and I was a leader in her GS troop, but I was not happy with the organization and the rules I was told to fallow, and the gay issue really bothered me too. We have at least one gay person in our council. I pulled my daughter out and she is mad at me, but I told her we would find an alternative. I am really interested, how do I start this organization where I live or is there already one avaliable here?


13 posted on 11/03/2004 12:14:08 PM PST by butterflie (reesehoover@yahoo.com)
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To: butterflie
Start here.
14 posted on 11/03/2004 12:24:00 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection (www.whatyoucrave.com)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I promise to love God, Cherish my family, Honor my country, and Serve in my community.

This reminds me of the "Laws of Camp Fire" that I memorized when I was a nine year old Camp Fire Girl.

Worship God
Be Truthful
Give Service
Pursue Knowledge
Be Trustworthy
Hold Fast onto Health
Glorify Work
15 posted on 11/03/2004 12:39:44 PM PST by redheadtoo
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