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To: Lazamataz
Perhaps. On the other hand, all the people of Japan were not aggressing against the US when we nuked them. Not that what we did was right, but we did what was nessecary to defend ourselves. Any right that men can assert collectively, I believe one man can assert individually. Do we have the right to kill innocents? No, unless to not do so means that we will be killed. West Bank anyone? Anyway, to some extent, people are guilty of the crimes of their leaders. If they are our own leaders, we would be foolish to kill ourselves in an effort to stop them. At some point, it may come down to us vs them. Someone lives, someone doesn't. If I am not the aggressor, and someone innocent has to die, I propose that it not be me. Unequal? If someone who is innocent has to die so another may live, you are correct. It is not equal. The children at Waco were apparently not equal. Then again, its the same government that killed them that wants to disarm us.
28 posted on 04/18/2002 10:30:00 AM PDT by HaveGunWillTravel
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To: HaveGunWillTravel
The argument about nations and the rights they may or may not possess is a different topic. I have only addressed and discussed individual rights.
31 posted on 04/18/2002 10:36:13 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: HaveGunWillTravel
Any right that men can assert collectively, I believe one man can assert individually.

And I also strenously disagree with this premise, but I am not interested in discussing that on this thread.

33 posted on 04/18/2002 10:37:41 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: HaveGunWillTravel
Perhaps. On the other hand, all the people of Japan were not aggressing against the US when we nuked them.

I disagree: While the US was planning an invasion of Japan, it was well known and documented that the Japanese civilian population (including women and children) were training with spears and swords to defend the Island against the invading forces of the US. This made them combatants...

Mark

91 posted on 04/18/2002 1:10:50 PM PDT by MarkL
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