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***Breaking Tomorrow***Clinton Administration Cover-Up of McVey/Mid-East Terror Connection***
Insight Magazine ^ | Kenneth Timmerman

Posted on 04/18/2002 7:38:52 PM PDT by midwestmidnight

I was listening to WTVN 610 AM (Columbus, OH) this evening. They were interviewing Kenneth Timmerman about his book Shakedown. He apologized for delaying the start of his interveiw as he had to talk to his editor at Insight Magazine about meeting his deadline for this story to break on Friday morning (4/19/02). He commented that the story will present evidence that the Clinton Administration and the FBI covered-up information linking Timothy McVey and Middle Eastern Terrorists. Timmerman stated that Clinton wanted to pin all of the blame on Right-Wing Extremists.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: clinton; coverup; mcvey
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To: Diddle E. Squat
R U Sure?
101 posted on 04/18/2002 8:55:04 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: AdA$tra
down that building.

down = downed. sorry, past my bedtimne.
102 posted on 04/18/2002 8:55:34 PM PDT by AdA$tra
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Wanna bet that on Monday, 90% of the American Public knows what happened in the BLAKE case, and 90% never hear about the Clinton coverup ?
103 posted on 04/18/2002 8:56:29 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: berned
So sorry, berned - I don't have the clips on the Downside Legacy. Thanks for the heads up!
104 posted on 04/18/2002 8:57:57 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: alien
If you find some of my old posts from that time, I now do believe that McVeigh killed, based on things I've read long since then. But by no means do I think he and one other guy are the only ones involved, no way.

The most interesting new thing I've read since the execution puts Nichols and an unidentified second person in Mindanao consulting with the Abu Sayyaf. The whole thing stinks to high heaven and it was a serious mistake to kill him so soon.

105 posted on 04/18/2002 8:58:15 PM PDT by altair
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To: Libertina
"What do you think the chances are that the mainstream media might pick this up?"

Oh, I'd give it the same odds that the sun will rise in the west tommorow morning.

106 posted on 04/18/2002 8:59:04 PM PDT by tjg
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To: tjg
Has it occurred to you that if there was an Iraqi connection that was covered up, Bush would find out about it and make sure it came out at the time it would be most useful? Like when we were getting ready to make war on Iraq?

If this story really does hit the mainstream media tomorrow, mark my words -- the anthrax cases will be "solved" shortly thereafter.

107 posted on 04/18/2002 9:08:43 PM PDT by VeritatisSplendor
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To: Rightwing Canuck
I hear you I am First generation my parents both came from Sicily have been mistaken for Greek, Spanish, Arab, and Belive it or not Israely
108 posted on 04/18/2002 9:09:57 PM PDT by rlwinston
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To: berned
I believe the (real) interior bombs were set with seismic triggers, set to go off when the ground started shaking. The truck bomb was basically just the detonation device.

Weren't there some body parts that were never identified? Could there been Homicide Bombers involved ? (I almost posted Boomers)

109 posted on 04/18/2002 9:10:22 PM PDT by tubebender
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To: midwestmidnight
bump for truth!
110 posted on 04/18/2002 9:20:22 PM PDT by timestax
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To: uncbob
About the same as the Bush administration doing anything about it
I'm going to remain supportive of President Bush on these issues. Why? because no ONE person has the power to do what we wish would be done. The dems & even Rs curl up & wilt. I think Bill will get his, but it won't be as clean as in a jail cell. Did you read the post that an article is coming out tomorrow documenting how clintoon ignored the Arab connection in the Fed Building bombing because he wanted to ATTACK the FAR RIGHT! I'm not a strategist and would make a terrible politician. A successful one ( read ELECTED)has to plan ahead better than a chess pro. President Bush is doing this in the background, as best he can. And it's not as if he doesn't have a lot of fish to fry. The rest of us can help by getting active against the enemies of America, and not attacking our President. IMHO
111 posted on 04/18/2002 9:20:32 PM PDT by Libertina
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To: tubebender
There was a leg found in the wreckage that could never be matched to any of the victims, and no one ever reported someone "missing" from that day who could have been matched to that leg. But naturally, the bizarre unlikeliness of that didn't even register to our beloved media.

(Contrast the missing leg/victim to the reaction of those who lost loved ones on 9/11. They were desperate to find if their loved ones died in the towers. But at OKC, an extra leg is found, it's owner obviously dead -- and it's no big deal, no one reports a missing "loved one")

I must admit I'm very anxious to see what will be presented tomorrow, even though, over the years my hopes have been high, then dashed, as I'm sure yours have too.

112 posted on 04/18/2002 9:25:00 PM PDT by berned
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To: Libertina
In 40 years? No doubt they'll pick up this story and wonder just what the hell "we" were all thinking giving this man a pass.
113 posted on 04/18/2002 9:27:44 PM PDT by weegee
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To: midwestmidnight
I'm working my way through a non-fiction, non-biographical, non-political book from the early 1990s. The leftist PC rhetoric is as noticable and offensive today as the racist portayal in movies from the 1930s is. This too will be Clinton's legacy, the outright rejection of all ideas that didn't fit the mold.
114 posted on 04/18/2002 9:30:25 PM PDT by weegee
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To: McGavin999
Why didn't "ignore it and it'll go away" work with his wife?
115 posted on 04/18/2002 9:32:02 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: UCANSEE2
Wanna bet that on Monday, 90% of the American Public knows what happened in the BLAKE case, and 90% never hear about the Clinton coverup ?

I wouldn't bet you a penny, because you are probably right.

116 posted on 04/18/2002 9:34:23 PM PDT by berned
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To: alien
There is footage in the Oscar nominated Waco documentary of Chuck Schumer conceeding that it is possible (and likely) that some of the ATF/FBI actions overstepped their bounds. "But" that it did not negate the actions of those within the compound.

The government's official position was that the FBI/ATF did no wrong.

Mainstream press held to the party line.

When they admitted that they knew that they used incidiary devices, there were again claims of "this is not an issue" even though they long denied it. The press refused to take them to task over it.

Different case but it shows the deceipt.

117 posted on 04/18/2002 9:35:50 PM PDT by weegee
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To: AdA$tra
Our media was "sterilized" within 3 days of the WTC.
118 posted on 04/18/2002 9:44:18 PM PDT by weegee
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
"I keep hearing these "Blockbuster Evidence of Oklahoma City/Middle East Terror Connection" stories, always promising to go to press "tomorrow", and they always turn out to be the same heresay rehashed.

Please let this one be different, because I have no doubt that it is true."

Big-time prayer bump.

119 posted on 04/18/2002 9:48:00 PM PDT by glorygirl
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To: glorygirl
Big-time prayer bump.

I agree with you in Jesus' name. That's two of us, right?

120 posted on 04/18/2002 9:49:43 PM PDT by berned
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To: berned
Amen.
121 posted on 04/18/2002 9:52:05 PM PDT by glorygirl
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To: alien
I don't think that they got the only 2 participants either. I do think the Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols are guilty but there were just too many other people that came up in the investigation.

Even Dan Rather went on Don Imus believing that there was a group that had targeted the same building (with blueprints) for an April 19th attack years before.

Basically for all the smoke and mirrors, they convicted McVeigh of a mayhem charge and premeditated murder of several federal officials. Yet there was no real vendetta against those officials. The ones he was supposed to be angered about (the Waco officials) were all out. A lot of damage but not a brilliant plan if his targets all got away (as well as destroying Waco evidence). The civillians that died were publicly mourned but their deaths did not figure into his case. They were set aside to be used as they are against Nichols; trials for murders until he is convicted with a death sentence.

122 posted on 04/18/2002 9:52:35 PM PDT by weegee
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To: midwestmidnight
Interesting info HERE
123 posted on 04/18/2002 10:00:35 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: midwestmidnight
ANOTHER INTERESTING SITE
124 posted on 04/18/2002 10:02:43 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: ladyinred
I often wonder why the public just accepted that the middle eastern John Does just disappeared.

Because the majority are mind-numb sheeple and believe whatever they hear on the news.

125 posted on 04/18/2002 10:08:04 PM PDT by dougherty
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To: TBall
Interesting, but this couldn't be true. The Clinton Administration could never have been involved in such a massive cover-up. Too many players would have to be involved and don't you think the media would have been all over it.

You are kidding right?

The Clinton Administration WAS A MASSIVE COVER-UP, and the media was (and is) complicit. They voted for Clinton, they are leftists, and they get their talking points from the DNC.

I hope you don't ascribe some 'feel-good' theory that journalists are objective people. The main-stream media is a leftist propaganda machine, and they know expertly how to manipulate public perception. They tell the public what to think, then poll them on it, and then they and the DNC site the polls to bolster their manufactured brainwashing. If the public still isn't sucking down the democrat hook, line and sinker, then they just ignore the polls or just keep pounding out the propaganda -- i.e. campaign finance reform. (main-stream media lobbied the DNC/McCain to the toon of around $10,000,000 to pass CFR).

126 posted on 04/18/2002 10:09:29 PM PDT by Outraged
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To: Reactionary
Could you tell me which link(s) are the ones that have the video of the first news reports coming out of OKC about the other 3 bombs, please? There are so many many links at the url you posted that it'll take me forever to go through them.

I'd appreciate the info and help. :)

127 posted on 04/18/2002 10:12:43 PM PDT by chantal7
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To: midwestmidnight; RJayneJ
Nominating this for Quote of the Day:

I'm just encouraged that the Clinton Legacy is developing such a strong foundation. He is, no doubt, the best president the Palestinians have ever had.

12 posted on 4/18/02 7:46 PM Pacific by midwestmidnight

128 posted on 04/18/2002 10:23:03 PM PDT by GretchenEE
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To: ladyinred
I often wondered why the public just accepted that the Middle Eastern John Doe just disappeared.

I often wondered why the public just accepted (fill in the blank).

129 posted on 04/18/2002 10:24:23 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg
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To: flamefront
I don't know, we could have video tape of all the major players in OKC doing the nasty and folks would simply deny that they were seeing what they were seeing. Sheeple to the 100th...
130 posted on 04/18/2002 10:25:55 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: weegee
All of these things accumulated (and the other things of which we remain ignorant) surely add up to a desperation in X42's and the co-X42's minds as the election of the Concealer in Waiting slipped away.
131 posted on 04/18/2002 10:27:18 PM PDT by GretchenEE
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To: Outraged
Perhaps I am overly idealistic, but......

IF this really becomes a big story tomorrow and Bush has been planning this to blow Iraq out of the water and splatter all over Clinton.

Maybe he let all the other Clinton stuff slide because of this? He knew it would be coming and would be brushed aside if all we had heard for a year was "Clinton this, Clinton that." Those Republicans just hate Clinton, they can't let it go! And the public says "Zzzzzzzz".

'Bout a one in a million shot at being right. But it would be so satisfying.

132 posted on 04/18/2002 10:29:12 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: Fzob
I recall David Shipper talking about this last year. He supposedly tried to give is info to the fbi but they said they weren't interested. I believ he was going to bring a lawsuit about this but against who I don't recall.
133 posted on 04/18/2002 10:30:20 PM PDT by Valin
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To: DoughtyOne
Don't forget that there were people who honestly believed the slickmeister up until he admitted being sorry if you misunderstood the nature of his relationship with Monica (it was your fault if you didn't understand; he never lied < /sarcasm >).

Live video evidence would have meant nothing to those people.

134 posted on 04/18/2002 10:43:14 PM PDT by weegee
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To: midwestmidnight
Yes but, Bush 1 put the Iraqis in OK and Bush 2 seems just as hell bent on pinning anthrax on the right! After 245(i) I would vote for porky pig if he said that he wouldn't live in D.C. or retain any officials from past admins.
137 posted on 04/18/2002 10:58:36 PM PDT by Righty1
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Who cares, didn't you hear that Robert Blake was arrested?

I am hereby announcing my personal boycott of all things having to do with one R Blake.

138 posted on 04/18/2002 10:58:44 PM PDT by Valin
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To: DoughtyOne
Sheeple. Even here. Especially here. Those threads were ...
139 posted on 04/18/2002 11:01:10 PM PDT by flamefront
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To: weegee
Exactly!
140 posted on 04/18/2002 11:02:56 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: flamefront
I know. Denial, that's all you can chalk it up to. They're coasting along in comfort, don't upset the apple cart until their kids and grandkids have to deal with it.

It's a painful thing to contemplate for me, but I have felt that the wonder men who bailed our arses out in WWII, later failed to use their retirement time wisely to take Clinton out.

The older set basicly gave the most despicable man in US history a free pass. Sad.

141 posted on 04/18/2002 11:07:09 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: VeritatisSplendor
Bush would find out about it and make sure it came out at the time it would be most useful? Like when we were getting ready to make war on Iraq?

Wonderful thought, but Bush has always gone out of his way to wash his hands of any Clinton-related scandal. Won't touch it at all. Nobody in the so-called "news media" will dig anything up either (if there is anything to dig up).

An acquaintance of mine who happens to work in the mining equipment field told me once that while nitrate fertilizer can indeed be used to make a bomb, it is normally used as an accelerant, not as the actual explosive, and that there wasn't enough power in that quantity of material to do that kind of damage. He also claimed that McVeigh couldn't have done this on his own, and that there was talk of a Middle Eastern connection. This was in '95 and I never thought much about it until 9-11.

142 posted on 04/18/2002 11:25:48 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler
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To: Ronneil
I just saw the 911 video from infowars.com and it is outstanding.

Based upon the ad you linked to, it looks like the delusional ramblings of someone badly in need of medication. What possible evidence could they have presented in that video which convinced you that our government was complicit in the attacks of 9/11? Do you have any idea how insane that sounds? How absolutely implausible? Is it not at least equally plausible that this video was produced solely to milk profits from conspiracy nuts?

143 posted on 04/18/2002 11:32:10 PM PDT by LouD
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To: midwestmidnight; Fzob; OKC Submariner; ladyinred; blam; Arkinsaw; Excuse_My_Bellicosity; uncbob...
The real reason? Some relationships need to be kept secret.

Clinton's BIN LADEN GATE

OKLAHOMA BOMBING LINKED TO BIN LADEN (Captured Chemical Notes Say in Bosnian ‘Was used in Oklahoma’)

The Balkan Branches of the Terror Network "in search of blond Moslems"

144 posted on 04/18/2002 11:34:07 PM PDT by Spar
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To: Ronneil
Thank you, but I didn't mean I wanted to buy VHS tapes, I meant the windows media player, real player, etc. files of the reporters reporting about the other 3 bombs as they were found and the rescuers evacuating the building.
145 posted on 04/18/2002 11:34:25 PM PDT by chantal7
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To: Travis McGee
"April 19th 2002 = my son's 10th birthday."

Ah hah!

LOL and Happy Birthday to a true patriot's son.

146 posted on 04/18/2002 11:54:21 PM PDT by Badray
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To: VeritatisSplendor
that was covered up, Bush would find out about it and make sure it came out at the time it would be most useful?

This is a thought I have had about a lot of things that were supposedly never ivestigated. It may be so deep it could be dangerous to unload it in any way other than carefully timed, use it to maximum advantage. One can only hope.

147 posted on 04/19/2002 1:07:44 AM PDT by StriperSniper
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To: cactusSharp
when proven two things will result..Clinton will leave the country and Hillary is done politically.....mark my words.

I have to disagree. In order for bill to leave the country and hillary to believe she could not get elected would have to mean that they have a sense of right and wrong; a sense of shame. Neither of them give a damn what we think nor do they care what our opinion is. It's all about them.
148 posted on 04/19/2002 2:51:00 AM PDT by wasp69
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To: Howlin
Timmerman stated that Clinton wanted to pin all of the blame on Right-Wing Extremists.

Oh, I dunno. That one's been used so much lately.

150 posted on 04/19/2002 3:08:52 AM PDT by Liz
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