***Breaking Tomorrow***Clinton Administration Cover-Up of McVey/Mid-East Terror Connection***

Insight Magazine ^ | Kenneth Timmerman

[midwestmidnight]

I was listening to WTVN 610 AM (Columbus, OH) this evening. They were interviewing Kenneth Timmerman about his book Shakedown. He apologized for delaying the start of his interveiw as he had to talk to his editor at Insight Magazine about meeting his deadline for this story to break on Friday morning (4/19/02). He commented that the story will present evidence that the Clinton Administration and the FBI covered-up information linking Timothy McVey and Middle Eastern Terrorists. Timmerman stated that Clinton wanted to pin all of the blame on Right-Wing Extremists.

[exmarine]

If it were us behind closed doors, calling the shots, and in possession of vastly more information than any of us have, can you say absolutely that we, in light of greater information, wouldn't be handling things in more or less the same manner?

I I do not know which "things" you speak of, but you can be assured that I would conduct a number of things in a more honest and consistent manner than is currently being done. There is no compromise on moral principles - if those moral principles are truly moral principles - and not just lip service.

[Mudboy Slim]

"Forget it Mud..."

Wouldn't life be soooo much simpler if we could, glorygirl?! However, the Path to Tyranny is paved with such abdications of civic responsibility, and we've already traveled a frightening distance up said path. If We the Sheeple allow our self-styled Ruling Class to hold themselves Above the Law, and thereby unaccountable to the rules that bind the rest of us, how can we pretend we live in a FRee and Just Nation?!

FReegards...MUD

[Askel5]

April 19 = American Revolution starts.

April 19 = Waco Seige.

April 19 = OCK Bombing

April 19 = Tomorrow. .

You have to admit it was nice timing on the libeled party's part for getting OKCSubmariner's posts erased.

I'm not sure it's my cup o'tea but they've evidently got quite the ironic sense of humor about the whole thing.

[Askel5]

God bless you. Regards.

[exmarine]

Thank you friend. I receive that blessing with gladness.

[rwfok]

A lot of the blame has to go on the shoulders of the survivors of the victims All they were concerned about was getting a live body to convict.

Are you serious? Do you believe that the survivors were running the investigation? The initial reports on the local stations were that the perps were Middle Eastern. If the survivors were so gung-ho to get, "a body to convict", wouldn't they have gone after some of the many ex-republican guardsman who were relocated here after the gulf war? Do you believe that McVeigh was the victim of Oklahoma vigilantes? Excuse me if I'm misreading your posts, but you seem be coming down awfully hard on people for things that were, for the most part, completely out of their control.

[rwfok]

Sorry, silly me, I thought the FBI was in charge of the investigation and the Justice Department handled the prosecution. The victims's survivors apparently had more power than I thought.

[fire and forget]

I don't think any of us ever said he was smart enough to not engage in an extra-marital affair (or rape for that matter). He always thought he'd get away with such. He's a sexual predator among other things and his sort always thinks they can get away with whatever they do in a sexual and moral context. Ultimately that's why he surrounds himself with attorneys. I doubt that translates to his having the ability to (or believe he can get away with) having American operatives pull off mass killings of innocent Americans. His overriding concern, as we all know is himself. If he or anyone connected with him were associated with the actual implementation of the OKC bombing, he'd be history, as would the democratic party. No matter how careful you are, you run a HUUUGE risk trying to pull off something like that. And you have to know that it's going down and when. I'd love for it to be so. The guy would be buried as should have been the case long ago.

The cover up of a Muslim connection to the attack is possible, but not overt acts by clinton to facilitate it. It's a fanciful dream and nothing more.

[glorygirl]

It is not my personal belief that Clinton planned the OKC bombing -- just that he smelled a sociopathic opportunity when he heard about it. We already know that Ashcroft, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld and of course Bush have been notified of all the inconsistencies in this case, and have said/done nothing. Which isn't much better.

How much more likely is it that Clinton, at the time, knew, or at least found out what was going on, given all the evidence that's been produced since then, and his behavior shortly after the bombing?.

I don't know how old you are, or how closely you were paying attention during the first half of the Clinton administration. But it was a horrible thing to see Clinton decline to accept any responsibility for Waco, and place the blame instead on his appointed AG, a woman who'd been working for the federal government for less than two months. (Of course he didn't have much more experience at that level then, either, which is no excuse. At least Reno admitted ordering it.)

It was no more comforting, and highly disturbing, in fact, to hear Clinton promise, just after McVeigh's arrest, that the "perpetrators would be put to death, sooner rather than later." I distinctly remember sitting in my car, listening to my radio, and thinking "whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?" (of course, in Clinton's view, that only applies when the VRWC is doing the accusing)

And that was in April, 1995, way before we knew all the stuff we know now.

And the next thing he does is blame the radio talkshow hosts. Well, Bill, why don't we just get rid of radio & TV, or better yet, let's put it into the hands of the goverment. The Telecommunications Act of 1996 effectively accomplished that. And he got the Anti-Terrorism bill passed that year, too, retroactively, which is unheard of.

Oh, well, the list is endless.

None of us knows for certain what occurred -- just that there was definitely some kind of Middle East connection, and that the bombing definitely DID NOT go down the way the federal government said it did. Whether rogue elements of the federal government were involved, and to what degree, is uncertain, whether the Strassmeiers of the world were involved and to what degree also remains uncertain.

It is possible that NO ONE knows for sure exactly what happened, now that McVeigh is dead. But we do know there is more to the story that should be investigated, and Bill Clinton is largely at fault for not insisting it be done very early in his administration.

[rwfromkansas]

Have you videotaped any of these newscasts? If so, I would like a copy if you would not mind. I am a high school reporter...soon to be college, and one thing I am looking at is the OKC bombing. If I ever get enough information to meet the burden of proof for writing a story, I will do so sometime. Freepmail me if you do have some copies.

[ladyinred]

I don't think Clinton knew about the OKC bombing in advance, agree with you about that. I do think there was a big coverup however after the fact.
I think it was a terrorist act committed by the Muslims, and they did not want us to know it for whatever reason.
As I said at the beginning of this thread, Clinton said that the OKC bombing saved his presidency. It certainly helped demonize conservatives.

[ladyinred]

I know that many feel that they need to vote for a third party candidate as a protest. I agree with you that doing so got us Clinton, and I am afraid the past is going to repeat itself again, only this time with Hillary.
These acts took place while Bill Clinton was in office, not Bush or Ashcroft. We have no idea what is going on behind the scenes, but I seriously doubt Ashcroft would just take this kind of thing lightly.

[rwfromkansas]

I have a question about this on your site: "Newsmax 9/19/00 "……. Secret impeachment evidence against President Clinton sealed by law till the year 2049"

I thought Dan Burton said that these would be sealed forever unless the people "demanded their release?"

[rwfromkansas]

God bless you for your tireless work on this!

[rwfromkansas]

Crap!! What happened.....I want to see that thread!