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Peggy Noonan: The Pope Steps In
Opinion Journal ^ | 04/19/2002 | Peggy Noonan

Posted on 04/18/2002 9:07:57 PM PDT by Pokey78

Edited on 04/23/2004 12:04:24 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Pokey78
I think it is fair to say that in secular terms the American church is gone. When all is said and done, the attorneys will own all the material assets, Satan the souls of those perpetrators and facilitators. It, as has been historically, will survive in the hearts and prayers of the laity. To look toward Rome to solve our problems is to deny the reponsiblity Catholics now have in their communities.
45 posted on 04/20/2002 4:29:23 AM PDT by mo
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
You hit the nail on the head concerning how it all started with the rejection of Humanae Vitae Keep on pounding. Thanks.
46 posted on 04/20/2002 8:22:27 AM PDT by Renatus
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To: Pokey78; dighton; aculeus
He could start with Cardinal Bernard Law, whose actions have at least broken the spirit of the law. That would send a message to those in the church who need to hear it, that covering up, going along, and paying off victims is over.

Noonan is right on the mark with this article.

47 posted on 04/20/2002 8:26:27 AM PDT by Orual
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To: Catholicguy
Since I'm an NFP teacher, I do support it! The act must be open to life, even if the act takes place in what is thought to be an infertile period, or after menopause, or after cancer treatment or hysterectomy, etc. In other words, no artificial chemicals, jellies, jams or dams, or bodily mutilation directly intended to prevent conception/implantation. However, given serious reason, couples may have recourse to the infertile times God programmed into the woman's cycle.

Yet even this practice is open to life, it does not suppress or obliterate fertility, it accepts it and embraces it fully. And as our first born aptly illustrates, it is open to God's Will if He desires us to conceive at a particular time. My wife ovulated on the 7th day of her cycle when Mikey was conceived, something that never happened before or since. And it happened while we were on pilgrimage to the Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception in Washington DC, on the Feast of the Immaculate Conception. If we had been using artificial methods Mikey would not be here, and our lives would be radically different.

48 posted on 04/20/2002 5:20:01 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: RonDog
Isn't Avery Dulles, sj, a cardinal and also invited? His nickname among Roman Catholics is "A Very Dull SJ."
49 posted on 04/20/2002 5:26:58 PM PDT by Chemnitz
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To: Aquinasfan
ex corde ecclesiae = from the heart of the church
50 posted on 04/20/2002 5:28:15 PM PDT by Chemnitz
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To: Chemnitz
Isn't Avery Dulles, sj, a cardinal and also invited?
His nickname among Roman Catholics is "A Very Dull SJ."
There appears to be some uncertainty...

From the Washington ComPOST:

"All 13 U.S. cardinals were invited to the meeting, but 81-year-old Cardinal James Hickey, the retired archbishop of Washington, was too frail to make the trip.

The American cardinals will sit down in morning and afternoon sessions, meeting with three top Vatican officials: Cardinal Dario Castrillon Hoyos of the Congregation for the Clergy, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and Cardinal Giovanni Battista Re of the Congregation for Bishops..."

From the Communist News Network:

"The meeting April 23 and 24 will involve 11 U.S. cardinals -- eight cardinals traveling from the United States and three already stationed in Rome.

They will meet with three non-U.S. cardinals who lead what are known as Vatican congregations dealing with matters of clergy, bishops and doctrine. There was no mention of a meeting with Pope John Paul II, but it is widely believed the cardinals will see him..."

The BEST explanation seems to be from the Moscow Times (really!):
"A spokesman for the Baltimore archdiocese said the meeting was scheduled for April 23-24.
The Vatican official said only the eight American cardinals in charge of an archdiocese will be involved in next week's talks. They are Cardinal William Keeler of Baltimore, Cardinal Bernard Law of Boston, Cardinal Francis George of Chicago, Cardinal Adam Maida of Detroit, Cardinal Roger Mahony of Los Angeles, Cardinal Edward Egan of New York, Cardinal Anthony Bevilacqua of Philadelphia and Cardinal Theodore McCarrick of Washington.

But a spokeswoman for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, Sister Mary Ann Walsh, said the conference's top two officials -- Bishop Wilton Gregory, the president, and Bishop William Skylstad, the vice president -- also will attend.

Cardinals usually are summoned to Rome only when new cardinals are named or for a conclave when a pope dies. A special meeting of cardinals from just one country is extraordinary. Only one similar meeting has been held before, said the Reverend Thomas Reese, editor of the Catholic magazine "America."

In 1989, the pope summoned all the American archbishops to discuss tensions between U.S. Catholics and the Vatican over issues such as remarriage for divorced Catholics and disregard for the church ban on artificial birth control..."

See also, from NewsMax:
"...Some observers think that Pope John Paul II will have to remove some of the church's American hierarchy, possibly at the cardinal level, BBC reported Monday.

The [New York] Times said the eight U.S. cardinals in charge of U.S. archdioceses are expected to attend the gathering next week in Rome. They are: William H. Keeler of Baltimore, Bernard F. Law of Boston, Francis E. George of Chicago, Adam J. Maida of Detroit, Roger M. Mahony of Los Angeles, Edward M. Egan of New York, Anthony J. Bevilacqua of Philadelphia and Theodore E. McCarick of Washington.

Rounding out the baker's dozen of U.S. cardinals are two retired U.S. cardinals and three U.S. cardinals who do not head American sees..."


51 posted on 04/20/2002 7:04:58 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: All
From http://www.miami.com/mld/miami/news/world/3105779.htm:

52 posted on 04/20/2002 7:13:25 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
Purge the priesthood of homosexuals and those who enable them.

Amen.

53 posted on 04/20/2002 7:18:09 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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From http://www.futurechurch.org/fpm/cardinals/addresses.htm:

Contact information for U.S. Cardinals

Cardinal William Baum
Major Penitentiary
Piazza Della Cancelleria, 00186 Rome
PH:3906698-5065 FAX:3906698-5438

Cardinal Anthony Bevilacqua
Archdiocese of Philadelphia
222 North 17th Street
Philadelphia,PA 19103-1299
PH:215-587-3800/FAX:215-587-3806
email: archbish@adphila.org

Cardinal Avery Dulles
Department of Theology
Fordham University
441 East Fordham Road
Bronx, New York 10458
PH: 718-817-3240/ FAX: 718-817-5787

Cardinal Edward M. Egan
Archdiocese of New York
1011 First Avenue
New York, NY 10022
PH:212-980-6565/FAX:212-308-2674

Cardinal Francis George
Archdiocese of Chicago
155 E. Superior
Chicago, IL 60611
PH: 312-751-8230/FAX: 312-337-6379

Cardinal James Hickey
Archbishop of Washington
5001 Eastern Avenue
P.O. Box 29260
Washington, DC 20017
PH: 301-853-4540/FAX: 301-270-6225

Cardinal William Keeler
Archbishop of Baltimore
320 Cathedral Street
Baltimore, MD 21201
PH:410-547-5437/ FAX 410-727-8234
email: cardinal@archbalt.org

Cardinal Bernard Law
Archdiocese of Boston
2121 Commonwealth
Brighton, MA 02135
PH: 617-782-2544/ FAX: 617-782-8358

Cardinal Roger Mahony
Archdiocese of Los Angeles
3424 Wilshire Blvd
Los Angeles, CA 90010
PH: 213-637-7288/FAX:213-637-6510
email: CardRMM@aol.com

Cardinal Adam Maida
1234 Washington Blvd.
Detroit, MI 48226
PH:313-237-5816/ FAX: 313-237-4642
email: infodesk@archdioceseofdetroit.org

Cardinal Theodore McCarrick
Archdiocese of Washington
5001 Eastern Ave. PO Box 29260
Washington, DC 20017
PH:301-853-4540/ FAX:301-270-6225

Cardinal James Stafford
President, Pontifical Council for the Laity
Piazza San Calisto, 16, Vatican City State
PH:39066988-7141/ FAX:39066988-7214

Cardinal Edmund Szoka
President, Pontifical Commission for Vatican City
Largo del Colonmato, 3, 00193 Rome, Italy
PH: 39066988-3306/ FAX: 39066988-3955

 


54 posted on 04/20/2002 7:28:05 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: RonDog
Let's not underestimate Keeler, McCarrick, Hickey, and Bevilacqua. Plus, the Pope's work on the Theology of the Body anticipated this problem--and the solution. Check it out here
55 posted on 04/20/2002 7:43:46 PM PDT by qwertyz
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Thanks, I did misunderstand you and congratulations on Mikey
56 posted on 04/21/2002 3:37:46 AM PDT by Catholicguy
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To: Vesuvius
WE will have to agree to disagree here. The Pope was patient with Abp. Lefebvre and there was no persecution. It is past time to quit the schism and come home
57 posted on 04/21/2002 3:46:35 AM PDT by Catholicguy
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To: Pokey78
CRIMINAL Law and his syndicate of moral midgets deserve the full measure of RICO.
58 posted on 04/21/2002 3:59:41 AM PDT by PGalt
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