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Oklahoma City/Mid-East Terror Connection - Insight World Exclusive
Insight Mag ^ | 04.19.02 | Timmerman

Posted on 04/19/2002 8:41:43 AM PDT by Registered

Insight Online World Exclusive
Posted April 19, 2002

The retirement of career FBI Special Agent Danny Defenbaugh, accused by defense attorneys and plaintiffs in the Oklahoma City bombing case of withholding key evidence, wasn't the only dramatic development in the continuing controversies surrounding the April 19, 1995, attack that killed 168 people.

Insight has learned that the widow of Philippine-government intelligence agent Edwin Angeles has provided audiotaped testimony to an investigator working for the American victims' families that directly ties Iraqi intelligence agents to Terry Nichols, the man sentenced in 1998 to life in prison for his role in bombing the Alfred P. Murrah Building seven years ago.

Elmina Abdul is the 27-year-old widow of Angeles, one of the cofounders of the Abu Sayyaf group, a Muslim separatist terrorist organization in the Philippines whose members trained in Osama bin Laden's camps in Afghanistan. Her astonishing story, revealed in this exclusive story for the first time, could blow the lid off what a growing number of people believe is a U.S. government cover-up of vital evidence in the Oklahoma City bombing case. It also exposes an alleged plot ginned up by former Philippine president Fidel Ramos to manipulate Abu Sayyaf as a means of enhancing his personal political power.

With the knowledge that she was dying of liver disease, Elmina agreed to meet with Dorian Zumel Sicat, a Manila Times correspondent serving as an investigative liaison in the Philippines and the Pacific Rim for Oklahoma City lawyer Mike Johnston, who represents the victims' families. "I want to tell the truth of what I know of my late husband," she said in a taped audio statement.

Angeles was "what they call a 'deep-penetration agent'" who was working for "some very powerful men in the DND," the Philippine national defense-intelligence agency, Elmina said. Angeles was arrested in 1995 after he had negotiated a deal to turn himself in to the Philippine authorities. By that point, the Abu Sayyaf he had helped create in 1991 with bin Laden protégé Abdurajjak Abu Bakr Janjalani had carried out a series of terrorist attacks. These included a failed assault on a U.S. Information Agency library in Manila in January 1991 that was part of a worldwide terrorist campaign against U.S. interests orchestrated by Iraq during the Persian Gulf War.

"Does the name 'Ramzi Yousef' mean something to you, Mr. Sicat?" Elmina asked. Angeles had extensive meetings with Yousef and two Americans, including one whom he called "Terry" or "The Farmer," she said.

Angeles ultimately was cleared of terrorism charges at trial, when documents proving he was working as a government agent were produced. He was released from prison in 1996 — but not before he provided astonishing details during a videotaped interrogation by Philippine police authorities of his activities with Abu Sayyaf, including the secret meetings with Iraqi intelligence agent Yousef, Nichols and the second American identified in the document as John Lepney.

The earliest meetings took place at a Del Monte canning plant in Davao in late 1992 and early 1993 — just prior to the first World Trade Center bombing. Later meetings with Nichols, Yousef and the second American — whose name has never been revealed until now — took place at Angeles' house in late 1994, according to a report on that interrogation which has been obtained by investigators working for attorney Johnston, who has been joined by Judicial Watch in representing families of those murdered in the Oklahoma City bombing.

Angeles also revealed the meetings to Elmina, who became his third wife in 1997, "because he knew that he would soon be killed," she said in her audiotaped statement with Sicat, which was witnessed by a Philippine-government official. "He wanted me to know everything so that if anything happened to him I could tell others." Also present at those meetings was a half-brother of Yousef, who was using the pseudonym Ahmad Hassim, she said.

"They met almost every day for one week. They met in an empty bodega [warehouse]. They talked about bombings. They mentioned bombing government buildings in San Francisco, St. Louis and in Oklahoma. The Americans wanted instructions on how to make and to explode bombs. He [Edwin] told me that Janjalani was very interested in paying them much money to explode the buildings. The money was coming from Yousef and the other Arab."

When asked if Angeles had told her the results of those conversations, Elmina replied: "He told me that the Americans exploded one bomb in Oklahoma in 1995, after he was arrested and after we first met."

Later in the interview, she chided Sicat for not knowing that Yousef was "representing Iraq and Saddam Hussein."

"Did Edwin tell you that?" Sicat asked.

"Not only Edwin, but others that were close to us, before he was killed," Elmina said. "One time, a [Philippine-army] soldier and Edwin were talking secretly. I was there because Edwin demanded [it]. The soldier ordered Edwin never to tell anybody about the Iraqis."

On Jan. 14, 1999, Elmina was waiting for her husband in an open-air market in Isabela, the provincial capital of Basilan province. Suddenly, as he emerged from a nearby mosque, she watched as two of his former associates walked up behind him and, with .45-caliber automatics, pumped six bullets into him. He staggered toward her and died in her arms.

The video interrogation linking Nichols to Yousef, bin Laden and Iraq initially was obtained by Stephen Jones, the defense attorney who represented convicted Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh. But at the insistence of federal prosecutors, trial judge Richard P. Matsch refused to admit it into evidence.

The judge also refused to admit into evidence the testimony of Yousef coconspirator Abdul Hakim Murad, who was a federal prisoner at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York City. Murad was awaiting trial for his part in Project Bojinka, a plot hatched up by Yousef to blow up 11 U.S. 747 jetliners over the Pacific Ocean in 1995 (see "Iraqi Connection to Oklahoma Bombing," April 15). On the day of the Oklahoma City bombing he told his jailers that Yousef had orchestrated the plot.

"Why should Murad be believed?" Johnston asks rhetorically. "For one thing, Murad made his 'confession' voluntarily and spontaneously. Most important, Murad tied Ramzi Yousef to the Oklahoma City bombing long before Terry Nichols was publicly identified as a suspect."

Johnston informed Jones last week he would be serving him with a desk subpoena to obtain this and other materials that were either sealed by the court or not admitted as evidence in the McVeigh trial. Shortly after Johnston got off the phone with him, Jones received threatening calls from federal prosecutors in Denver and Oklahoma City, warning him not to release the materials, Insight is told by a close associate of the lawyer. Jones did not return several calls by press time.

FBI spokesman Bill Carter tells Insight the FBI was unaware of a "foreign terrorist connection" to the Oklahoma City bombing. "There is no evidence of a foreign connection in our files," he says. "The Oklahoma City bombing was investigated thoroughly by the FBI; no evidence was found that would tie it to any foreign terrorist group. If we had found any evidence, it would have been presented."

That statement, like so many others from the government in this murky case, appears to be extraordinarily misleading to the families of victims still not convinced that they or the American public know the full story of what happened seven years ago.

In the Philippines, the real story of the Abu Sayyaf and its ties to Iraq, bin Laden and to former president Ramos — who is planning a comeback into Philippine politics — is a dangerous topic.

In his videotaped interrogation, Angeles says Yousef first approached him in July 1989 as the "personal envoy" of bin Laden to set up a new base for regional Islamic expansion on the Muslim island of Mindanao. At the time, bin Laden's brother-in-law, Mohammad Jamal Khalifa, was operating commercial front companies in the Philippines for bin Laden. This apparently led to the creation of the Abu Sayyaf.

A former CIA station chief in Manila confirms to Insight that bin Laden came to the Philippines personally in 1992 and was flown down to Mindanao in a government C-130 aircraft by then-president Ramos. "Bin Laden presented himself as a wealthy Saudi who wanted to invest in Muslim areas and donate money to charity," the former CIA officer says.

While Yousef was collecting money from bin Laden, he was taking orders from Iraq and is believed by U.S. intelligence officials to have carried out the June 20, 1994, bombing of a Shiite Muslim shrine in Mashad, Iran, on orders from Iraq. Yousef reportedly carried out that attack with help from his own father and a younger brother, Abdul Muneem, in conjunction with an Iraqi front group, the Mujahedin-e Khalq Organization, also known as the People's Mujahideen Organization of Iran.

Angeles "knew he was going to be killed by his own people once he was released from jail," Sicat tells Insight in a telephone interview from Davao, a city on Mindanao. "The question is, who were his own people? Abu Sayyaf, or the cabal who had Angeles help set them up?"

Angeles' second wife, who had prepared the meals for Nichols and Yousef, was gunned down during a government raid on an Abu Sayyaf safe house in 1996. Elmina died last month just days after giving her taped audio statements to Sicat, who tells Insight that he has received death threats and been shot at in recent weeks by unknown assailants. He recently has been given round-the- clock police protection by the government, which is investigating the attacks.

If the remaining witnesses live long enough, the only question left is whether the Bush administration will order the FBI to reopen its files. Or, as some of the lawyers in the case and their clients fear, the administration will endorse what they believe — and testimony now in hand suggests — was a wider conspiracy that was hidden by the Clinton administration and Janet Reno's Justice Department. It may require full and open congressional hearings if the current administration refuses to help or otherwise blocks the federal courts from re-examining the case to find out why the U.S. government shut down preliminary investigations into possible overseas links to the murder of Americans in downtown Oklahoma City.

Kenneth R. Timmerman is a senior writer for Insight magazine.

TOPICS: Anthrax Scare; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: bombing; clinton; fredthompson; okc; okcbombing; oklahomacity; reno; terrorism
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To: boston_liberty
They wanted to do their press conference on the 7th anniversary of the OKC bombings, I guess. But yeah, I wish they would have held it back to Monday.

Maybe even better, I wish the investigators would have gone on O'Reilly/Hannity a few times to "tease" the upcoming revelations so it would have had some momentum.

41 posted on 04/19/2002 11:03:38 AM PDT by berned
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To: Ann Archy
Type that into Google and see what happens...
42 posted on 04/19/2002 11:05:30 AM PDT by Registered
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To: humbletheFiend
It has been offered that 1994 GOP election had more to do with Waco than the 1993 tax increase. Secondly, after the 1993 WTC bombing, Clinton polled weak on 'terrorism' and thus could not afford two attacks on American soil plus a Waco in one term.
43 posted on 04/19/2002 11:08:25 AM PDT by JohnGalt
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To: Ann Archy
44 posted on 04/19/2002 11:09:48 AM PDT by Registered
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To: Registered
Stephen Jones said as much in his book, so frankly, I am struggling with what is new here to give the story some legs this time.

The widow's confession sounds a lot like Luther "Jerry" Parks wife saying that her husband was kill by Clinton for what he knew, and yet the story has not gone anywhere in 9 years.

Timmerman has been wrong on scandals before, but my concern is that the Conservative Johnny-come-lately press (I include Judicial Watch) is shedding light on the same information to push the agenda for war on Iraq.

Worse, the General Partin 'cutter charge' group is starting to look like a disinformation effort to keep the focus off a basic question: what the f*** was Terry Nicholas doing in the Phillipines all those times?

45 posted on 04/19/2002 11:14:49 AM PDT by JohnGalt
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To: humbletheFiend
Has anyone yet come up with a sensible and internally consistent theory as to why the Government would have wanted to distort the history of this event?

I'll give you MY humble working theory...(FWIW)

I think clinton knew in advance that it was going to happen, that a homemade truck bomb would do SOME damage to the bldg. I believe Clinton saw this as a golden opportunity to pin the blame on the "right-wing clinton haters", using McVeigh as poster-boy/patsy.

I believe clinton sent in black ops personell to wire the Murrah Bldg with military-grade explosives which were armed with seismic triggers. When McVeigh set off his truck bomb, it detonated the (REAL) inside bombs, and took down the bldg. Clinton then immediately went on the offensive, blaming "right-wing talk radio" (which was starting to ask hardball questions about Vince Foster, Waco, whitewater, etc) for inciting the American people into "mistrusting their government".

This halted the Contract with America in it's tracks. Clinton quickly caught McVeigh, demolished the Murrah bldg evidence. Case closed. It was the right-wing clinton hater nuts who did it.

They have every reason to cover up the truth because, IMHO they engineered the tragedy.

46 posted on 04/19/2002 11:15:28 AM PDT by berned
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To: Registered
Thanks for putting this out there ... We have learned through time that we control very little. We can work to support truth and the right thing to do ... then we must let it go. Power above and beyond us is there ... always.
47 posted on 04/19/2002 11:26:22 AM PDT by Countyline
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To: berned
Ahh, the Cynthia McKinney from the Right theory...
48 posted on 04/19/2002 11:29:58 AM PDT by JohnGalt
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To: humbletheFiend
The following makes sense to me: Clinton didn't want to disturb the "good times"; he also hoped that, by not responding to WTC I, and OKC, there would be a bigger atrocity which WOULD rouse the populace and make him, effectively, King. Unfortunately for Clinton, Bush gets to be King instead. The Patriot Act is an abomination. It should be repealed or appealed to the USSC as soon as possible.
49 posted on 04/19/2002 11:30:45 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: berned
I believe clinton sent in black ops personell to wire the Murrah Bldg with military-grade explosives which were armed with seismic triggers. When McVeigh set off his truck bomb, it detonated the (REAL) inside bombs, and took down the bldg. Clinton then immediately went on the offensive, blaming "right-wing talk radio" (which was starting to ask hardball questions about Vince Foster, Waco, whitewater, etc) for inciting the American people into "mistrusting their government".

Works for me.

50 posted on 04/19/2002 11:34:41 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: berned
No not Bill Clinton, someone much WORSE in my opinion. Ken Starr.

Your attempt to put Judge Starr in the same class, or even worse, than that corrupt, pathologically lying, impeached rapist piece of trash is beyond despicable. Get a clue.

51 posted on 04/19/2002 11:40:01 AM PDT by Coop
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To: JohnGalt
Ahh, the Cynthia McKinney from the Right theory...

Yeah, I know... but I can think of no theory that fits all the pieces together as well. They found OTHER bombs inside the building. Here is a link to local OKC news broadcasts where they reported that bombs were taken out of the wreckage, then later reported on-air that the FBI agents inside the bldg confirmed to them the existance of these bombs.


The truck left no crater commensurate with an explosion big enough to destroy a steel reinforced concrete bldg some distance away. The truck wasn't parked next to the area where the building suffered the most damage, etc etc...

Cynthia McKinney made a wild accusation without a shred of evidence. There are many many unexplainable things about this case, from withheld evidence to eyewitness testimony of unlocated John Does to on-air broadcasts of OTHER bombs... there is a LOT here.

52 posted on 04/19/2002 11:43:09 AM PDT by berned
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He was hoping for the big event, 911, to happen on his watch, which would have made him king. Can't trust those middle easterners. No sense of time or dates.

Remember the big news on talk radio in spring of 2000 when Clinton gave Janet Reno extra powers in the case of national emergency? I can't remember exactly what is was, but as of August or September of 2000, some powers were moved to the Attorney General that were unprecidented. There was no real explanation, but many speculated that something big was going to happen....and many thought Clinton would attempt to delay the 2000 election so he could be President longer.
53 posted on 04/19/2002 11:43:28 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Coop
I have a clue. My point is that Ken Starr has poisoned the well of justice in this country to the point that no future president will ever again be investigated as thoroughly as he had the chance to investigate clinton.

The official history of America is that Richard Nixon (i.e. "Leader of The Crooked Republicans") was suspected of wrongdoing, investigated, EXPOSED, and forced to resign. Clinton (i.e. "Leader of The saintly Democrats")was suspected of wrongdoing, THOROUGHLY investigated, EXONERATED of "serious wrongdoing" (just found guilty of "personal weakness") and allowed to finish his term.

IMO what Ken Starr wrought was far worse in the long run than what Clinton did. Starr sat on a mountain of evidence. If it hadn't of been for Linda Tripp's tapes, and Monica's dress, Starr would have exonerated Clinton COMPLETELY OF ALL WRONGDOING

That was my point. No need to get insulting.

54 posted on 04/19/2002 11:51:18 AM PDT by berned
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To: berned
My take is the 'bust gone bad.' I believe Andres Strassmeir was a government agent who may have provoked/stumbled upon a plot being hatched by Nichols and McVeigh and others to blow up a building. I believe that the ATF and others went to arrest McVeigh and then lost him (no one from the ATF showed up for work that day recall...) Nicholas and McVeigh discovered that they did not know how to build a bomb, so Nichols went to the Phillipines to get some training.

The people spreading your theory are too corny for me and seem to have an agenda of their own.

Witness General Partin who lent his name to the Waco trials that involved Ramsey Clark and Kirk Lyons, whom McVeigh called the day before the OKC bombing.(!!!) (Lyons is Andre Strassmeir's attorney.)

By shifting focus to forensic questions about the bomb and shadowy government conspiracies, general government arrogance/incompetence is overlooked.

55 posted on 04/19/2002 11:52:15 AM PDT by JohnGalt
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To: JohnGalt
Did you watch the TV news video on the link I provided you? How do you explain the FBI agents inside the wreckage confirming on-air to the local OKC newsanchors that they took MORE BOMBS out of the Murrah bldg?

You believe they LOST a huge ryder truck? They knew the date of the attack and the building, why weren't undercover ATF agents surveiling every aspect of the murrah bldg? If a ryder truck pulled up in front, couldn't they have swooped in immediately, arrested the drivers and defused the bomb?

56 posted on 04/19/2002 12:00:03 PM PDT by berned
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To: berned
We invested billions in the NSA/CIA/FBI/INS/DOD/SEC/IRS/FAA.. and they could not stop 19 bumbling hijackers from spending years in this country learning how to fly airplanes so I believe the ATF could lose a Ryder truck.
57 posted on 04/19/2002 12:08:31 PM PDT by JohnGalt
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To: JohnGalt
I believe the ATF could lose a Ryder truck.

Do you believe the ATF was keeping a federal bldg full of children, which they KNEW was about to be bombed by terrorists, under surveilance? If so, wouldn't that huge Ryder Truck parking in front have been kind of a red flag to them?

58 posted on 04/19/2002 12:13:49 PM PDT by berned
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To: Registered
Good stuff, Registered !!

Freedom Is Worth Fighting For !!

Molon Labe !!

59 posted on 04/19/2002 12:19:00 PM PDT by blackie
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To: berned
That is what I would like to know...I think McVeigh thought he was going to blow out some windows and had no idea that the contractor for the Murrah building had skimped on materials. The ATF burned 82 children alive at Waco so I really can believe anything you say about them.

I cannot believe that war veteran McVeigh would be so shell shocked as to climb into a getaway car with no plates unless he was truly shocked at the size of the blas.

60 posted on 04/19/2002 12:22:30 PM PDT by JohnGalt
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