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Oklahoma City/Mid-East Terror Connection - Insight World Exclusive
Insight Mag ^ | 04.19.02 | Timmerman

Posted on 04/19/2002 8:41:43 AM PDT by Registered

Insight Online World Exclusive
Posted April 19, 2002

The retirement of career FBI Special Agent Danny Defenbaugh, accused by defense attorneys and plaintiffs in the Oklahoma City bombing case of withholding key evidence, wasn't the only dramatic development in the continuing controversies surrounding the April 19, 1995, attack that killed 168 people.

Insight has learned that the widow of Philippine-government intelligence agent Edwin Angeles has provided audiotaped testimony to an investigator working for the American victims' families that directly ties Iraqi intelligence agents to Terry Nichols, the man sentenced in 1998 to life in prison for his role in bombing the Alfred P. Murrah Building seven years ago.

Elmina Abdul is the 27-year-old widow of Angeles, one of the cofounders of the Abu Sayyaf group, a Muslim separatist terrorist organization in the Philippines whose members trained in Osama bin Laden's camps in Afghanistan. Her astonishing story, revealed in this exclusive story for the first time, could blow the lid off what a growing number of people believe is a U.S. government cover-up of vital evidence in the Oklahoma City bombing case. It also exposes an alleged plot ginned up by former Philippine president Fidel Ramos to manipulate Abu Sayyaf as a means of enhancing his personal political power.

With the knowledge that she was dying of liver disease, Elmina agreed to meet with Dorian Zumel Sicat, a Manila Times correspondent serving as an investigative liaison in the Philippines and the Pacific Rim for Oklahoma City lawyer Mike Johnston, who represents the victims' families. "I want to tell the truth of what I know of my late husband," she said in a taped audio statement.

Angeles was "what they call a 'deep-penetration agent'" who was working for "some very powerful men in the DND," the Philippine national defense-intelligence agency, Elmina said. Angeles was arrested in 1995 after he had negotiated a deal to turn himself in to the Philippine authorities. By that point, the Abu Sayyaf he had helped create in 1991 with bin Laden protégé Abdurajjak Abu Bakr Janjalani had carried out a series of terrorist attacks. These included a failed assault on a U.S. Information Agency library in Manila in January 1991 that was part of a worldwide terrorist campaign against U.S. interests orchestrated by Iraq during the Persian Gulf War.

"Does the name 'Ramzi Yousef' mean something to you, Mr. Sicat?" Elmina asked. Angeles had extensive meetings with Yousef and two Americans, including one whom he called "Terry" or "The Farmer," she said.

Angeles ultimately was cleared of terrorism charges at trial, when documents proving he was working as a government agent were produced. He was released from prison in 1996 — but not before he provided astonishing details during a videotaped interrogation by Philippine police authorities of his activities with Abu Sayyaf, including the secret meetings with Iraqi intelligence agent Yousef, Nichols and the second American identified in the document as John Lepney.

The earliest meetings took place at a Del Monte canning plant in Davao in late 1992 and early 1993 — just prior to the first World Trade Center bombing. Later meetings with Nichols, Yousef and the second American — whose name has never been revealed until now — took place at Angeles' house in late 1994, according to a report on that interrogation which has been obtained by investigators working for attorney Johnston, who has been joined by Judicial Watch in representing families of those murdered in the Oklahoma City bombing.

Angeles also revealed the meetings to Elmina, who became his third wife in 1997, "because he knew that he would soon be killed," she said in her audiotaped statement with Sicat, which was witnessed by a Philippine-government official. "He wanted me to know everything so that if anything happened to him I could tell others." Also present at those meetings was a half-brother of Yousef, who was using the pseudonym Ahmad Hassim, she said.

"They met almost every day for one week. They met in an empty bodega [warehouse]. They talked about bombings. They mentioned bombing government buildings in San Francisco, St. Louis and in Oklahoma. The Americans wanted instructions on how to make and to explode bombs. He [Edwin] told me that Janjalani was very interested in paying them much money to explode the buildings. The money was coming from Yousef and the other Arab."

When asked if Angeles had told her the results of those conversations, Elmina replied: "He told me that the Americans exploded one bomb in Oklahoma in 1995, after he was arrested and after we first met."

Later in the interview, she chided Sicat for not knowing that Yousef was "representing Iraq and Saddam Hussein."

"Did Edwin tell you that?" Sicat asked.

"Not only Edwin, but others that were close to us, before he was killed," Elmina said. "One time, a [Philippine-army] soldier and Edwin were talking secretly. I was there because Edwin demanded [it]. The soldier ordered Edwin never to tell anybody about the Iraqis."

On Jan. 14, 1999, Elmina was waiting for her husband in an open-air market in Isabela, the provincial capital of Basilan province. Suddenly, as he emerged from a nearby mosque, she watched as two of his former associates walked up behind him and, with .45-caliber automatics, pumped six bullets into him. He staggered toward her and died in her arms.

The video interrogation linking Nichols to Yousef, bin Laden and Iraq initially was obtained by Stephen Jones, the defense attorney who represented convicted Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh. But at the insistence of federal prosecutors, trial judge Richard P. Matsch refused to admit it into evidence.

The judge also refused to admit into evidence the testimony of Yousef coconspirator Abdul Hakim Murad, who was a federal prisoner at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York City. Murad was awaiting trial for his part in Project Bojinka, a plot hatched up by Yousef to blow up 11 U.S. 747 jetliners over the Pacific Ocean in 1995 (see "Iraqi Connection to Oklahoma Bombing," April 15). On the day of the Oklahoma City bombing he told his jailers that Yousef had orchestrated the plot.

"Why should Murad be believed?" Johnston asks rhetorically. "For one thing, Murad made his 'confession' voluntarily and spontaneously. Most important, Murad tied Ramzi Yousef to the Oklahoma City bombing long before Terry Nichols was publicly identified as a suspect."

Johnston informed Jones last week he would be serving him with a desk subpoena to obtain this and other materials that were either sealed by the court or not admitted as evidence in the McVeigh trial. Shortly after Johnston got off the phone with him, Jones received threatening calls from federal prosecutors in Denver and Oklahoma City, warning him not to release the materials, Insight is told by a close associate of the lawyer. Jones did not return several calls by press time.

FBI spokesman Bill Carter tells Insight the FBI was unaware of a "foreign terrorist connection" to the Oklahoma City bombing. "There is no evidence of a foreign connection in our files," he says. "The Oklahoma City bombing was investigated thoroughly by the FBI; no evidence was found that would tie it to any foreign terrorist group. If we had found any evidence, it would have been presented."

That statement, like so many others from the government in this murky case, appears to be extraordinarily misleading to the families of victims still not convinced that they or the American public know the full story of what happened seven years ago.

In the Philippines, the real story of the Abu Sayyaf and its ties to Iraq, bin Laden and to former president Ramos — who is planning a comeback into Philippine politics — is a dangerous topic.

In his videotaped interrogation, Angeles says Yousef first approached him in July 1989 as the "personal envoy" of bin Laden to set up a new base for regional Islamic expansion on the Muslim island of Mindanao. At the time, bin Laden's brother-in-law, Mohammad Jamal Khalifa, was operating commercial front companies in the Philippines for bin Laden. This apparently led to the creation of the Abu Sayyaf.

A former CIA station chief in Manila confirms to Insight that bin Laden came to the Philippines personally in 1992 and was flown down to Mindanao in a government C-130 aircraft by then-president Ramos. "Bin Laden presented himself as a wealthy Saudi who wanted to invest in Muslim areas and donate money to charity," the former CIA officer says.

While Yousef was collecting money from bin Laden, he was taking orders from Iraq and is believed by U.S. intelligence officials to have carried out the June 20, 1994, bombing of a Shiite Muslim shrine in Mashad, Iran, on orders from Iraq. Yousef reportedly carried out that attack with help from his own father and a younger brother, Abdul Muneem, in conjunction with an Iraqi front group, the Mujahedin-e Khalq Organization, also known as the People's Mujahideen Organization of Iran.

Angeles "knew he was going to be killed by his own people once he was released from jail," Sicat tells Insight in a telephone interview from Davao, a city on Mindanao. "The question is, who were his own people? Abu Sayyaf, or the cabal who had Angeles help set them up?"

Angeles' second wife, who had prepared the meals for Nichols and Yousef, was gunned down during a government raid on an Abu Sayyaf safe house in 1996. Elmina died last month just days after giving her taped audio statements to Sicat, who tells Insight that he has received death threats and been shot at in recent weeks by unknown assailants. He recently has been given round-the- clock police protection by the government, which is investigating the attacks.

If the remaining witnesses live long enough, the only question left is whether the Bush administration will order the FBI to reopen its files. Or, as some of the lawyers in the case and their clients fear, the administration will endorse what they believe — and testimony now in hand suggests — was a wider conspiracy that was hidden by the Clinton administration and Janet Reno's Justice Department. It may require full and open congressional hearings if the current administration refuses to help or otherwise blocks the federal courts from re-examining the case to find out why the U.S. government shut down preliminary investigations into possible overseas links to the murder of Americans in downtown Oklahoma City.

Kenneth R. Timmerman is a senior writer for Insight magazine.



TOPICS: Anthrax Scare; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: bombing; clinton; fredthompson; okc; okcbombing; oklahomacity; reno; terrorism
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1 posted on 04/19/2002 8:41:43 AM PDT by Registered
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To: Registered

It may require full and open congressional hearings if the current administration refuses to help...

It will require more than that.

3 posted on 04/19/2002 8:50:43 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: RightWingMama
Bump back-at-ya!
4 posted on 04/19/2002 8:54:07 AM PDT by BornOnTheFourth
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To: Registered
bump
5 posted on 04/19/2002 8:55:16 AM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
and that requirement will not be reached!
6 posted on 04/19/2002 8:55:26 AM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: Registered
"The Oklahoma City bombing was investigated thoroughly by the FBI; no evidence was found that would tie it to any foreign terrorist group. If we had found any evidence, it would have been presented."

Wasn't the execution of McVeigh temporarily delayed because it was determined the FBI withheld evidence during the trial? Geez, that was too easy.

7 posted on 04/19/2002 8:56:28 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Registered
My guess is nothing will come of this. I think the powers that be think some information is just too dangerous for the American people to know. And the FBI certainly won't cooperate in exposing it's own complicity in any political coverup of foreign involvement in OKC now.
8 posted on 04/19/2002 8:59:28 AM PDT by Zorobabel
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To: B4Ranch
Sadly, you are probably right.
9 posted on 04/19/2002 9:01:36 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: all
Death bed confession transcript POSTED HERE!
10 posted on 04/19/2002 9:02:01 AM PDT by Registered
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To: Zorobabel
My guess is nothing will come of this. I think the powers that be think some information is just too dangerous for the American people to know. And the FBI certainly won't cooperate in exposing it's own complicity in any political coverup of foreign involvement in OKC now.

I agree. The FBI has been denying foreign involvement for years. I bet this won't even reach the mainstream press.

11 posted on 04/19/2002 9:02:07 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: Registered
So foreign terrorists were responsible for OKC? Covered up by Clinton--who then attempted to pin the blame on HIS enemies, not the COUNTRY'S enemies? It was more important to him to damage his political opponents than to defend the country against an external threat.

Nothing here. Move on.

12 posted on 04/19/2002 9:04:22 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Registered
"There is no evidence of a foreign connection in our files," he says...

...while wagging his finger.

13 posted on 04/19/2002 9:04:31 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Registered
Very interesting find. Bump!
14 posted on 04/19/2002 9:04:41 AM PDT by dead
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To: Registered
Thanks for posting this breaking report on the links between Middle Eastern terrorist groups and the OKC bombing .... The Big Question is will the U.S. media news agencies and major news papers ignore this information or report it? ....

More on McVeigh

15 posted on 04/19/2002 9:04:42 AM PDT by ex-Texan
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To: Uncle Bill

Testimony from Elmina Abdul links Ramos, above, Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein to the Abu Sayyaf terrorist network.

Media Credit: Joel Rennich/UPI

Testimony from Elmina Abdul links Ramos, above, Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein to the Abu Sayyaf terrorist network.

16 posted on 04/19/2002 9:06:23 AM PDT by Registered
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To: Arthur McGowan
He was hoping for the big event, 911, to happen on his watch, which would have made him king. Can't trust those middle easterners. No sense of time or dates.
17 posted on 04/19/2002 9:08:01 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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Where is Fox News Channel?
18 posted on 04/19/2002 9:13:56 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: skeeter
But most murderers sit and rot on death row for years before being fried.

McVeigh was disposed of rather quickly

Was that to get him out of the way? No spill the beans?

19 posted on 04/19/2002 9:17:51 AM PDT by aShepard
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To: aShepard
But most murderers sit and rot on death row for years before being fried.

And many a conviction has been overturned for far less than the prosecution withholding evidence, as they did in the McVeigh trial.

20 posted on 04/19/2002 9:26:04 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: ex-Texan
"will the U.S. media news agencies and major news papers ignore this information or report it? ...."

Our press is too well managed for that to happen.

21 posted on 04/19/2002 9:27:08 AM PDT by Spirited
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To: Registered
...Project Bojinka... "Bojinka" is a Serbian (or Croatian) word meaning "loud bang".

Any idea why they used a Serbian word? Was this yet another attempt to blame the Serbs for the dirty work done by the muslims and their NWO collaborators? (Remember that the first World Trade Center bombing WAS first blamed on the Serbs, until it became obvious that it was an act of islamic terrorism.)

22 posted on 04/19/2002 9:30:35 AM PDT by Honorary Serb
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To: boston_liberty
I have a bad feeling. This story is too "complicated" for sheeple consumption. This is nowhere near "bombshell" enough to blast it's way past the complicit media gatekeepers. DanTomPeter can safely ignore this story for a long time. If O'Reilly runs with it, and STAYS with it, it might have a snowballs chance, but would you be shocked if he never touches it?

This is just the word of some woman in the Phillipines. I don't doubt for a minute that it's absolutely true, mind you, but media-wise, it doesn't seem like it can compete with Robert Blake.

Our inability to gain media traction with the truth of clinton crimes all goes back to the biggest villain in modern American history. No not Bill Clinton, someone much WORSE in my opinion. Ken Starr. He messed this country up worse than even slick willie, because after Ken Starr, the sheeple have no more stomach to hold their leaders accountable for anything.

In the minds of 90% of the American people, Starr was given unlimited time and unlimited money to get the goods on Clinton (if there were any). All he came up with was a blowjob. Now, no matter what facts/evidence comes out about the horrible real attrocities that occured during Clinton's despicable regieme, we are just "clinton-haters who cried wolf".

I pray that God lets this story have legs, but is it much different than the thousand other clinton crime evidence that dantompeter have successfully swept under the rug?

23 posted on 04/19/2002 9:31:00 AM PDT by berned
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Being observant of the Bush Administration wishes. This subject shall not be promoted amongst the American people by major news outlets!
24 posted on 04/19/2002 9:31:13 AM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: Registered, OKCSubmariner
Thanks for the post.
25 posted on 04/19/2002 9:38:29 AM PDT by quimby
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To: nutmeg
Bump
26 posted on 04/19/2002 9:40:41 AM PDT by nutmeg
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To: Registered
Great post Registered...Bumpity Bump Bump
27 posted on 04/19/2002 9:43:23 AM PDT by KLT
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To: Registered
Well, you read it here...

..and in Insight Magazine.

Period.

That's about the only place anybody will read it. This will go nowhere. The arrest of Robert Blake is much more important to our idiot Media.

28 posted on 04/19/2002 9:43:31 AM PDT by Gritty
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To: Registered;OKCbombing
Gee, no index?

OKCbombing:

To find all articles tagged or indexed using OKCbombing, click below:
  click here >>> OKCbombing <<< click here  
(To view all FR Bump Lists, click here)

29 posted on 04/19/2002 9:44:57 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: Registered
Bump for later. Thanks!
30 posted on 04/19/2002 9:52:53 AM PDT by Ben Hecks
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To: Registered
"Shortly after Johnston got off the phone with him, Jones received threatening calls from federal prosecutors in Denver and Oklahoma City, warning him not to release the materials, Insight is told by a close associate of the lawyer. Jones did not return several calls by press time."

And, from this post...

Items in McVeigh Trial on Way Out

"The federal judge who presided over the Oklahoma City bombing case gave prosecutors and defense attorneys 60 days starting Tuesday to request the disposition of the more than 1,000 exhibits from McVeigh's trial, which began March 31, 1997. . .

"Normally, exhibits are returned after trials to the lawyers who introduced them into evidence. "But this is not a normal case," court clerk James R. Manspeaker said."

Hmmm.

31 posted on 04/19/2002 9:57:01 AM PDT by glorygirl
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btt
32 posted on 04/19/2002 10:07:06 AM PDT by GailA
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To: ex-Texan
WOW!
33 posted on 04/19/2002 10:08:09 AM PDT by aShepard
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To: Registered
This was one of Ambrose Evans-Pritchard's main issues. He really was focused on it, and was the only investigative reporter working this angle at the time. Timmerman is quite late.
35 posted on 04/19/2002 10:11:59 AM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: boston_liberty
I believe they released it on today for a reason. It is April 19th.
36 posted on 04/19/2002 10:16:01 AM PDT by Registered
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To: M. Thatcher
Timmerman is quite late.

What are you trying to say?
37 posted on 04/19/2002 10:16:34 AM PDT by Registered
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To: Registered; Arthur McGowan; the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Good post, Registered! This is all very interesting. I've heard very little about it in the mainstream press.

While reading it, I was trying to imagine a sensible motive for the Government's desire to cover up any foreign involvement in OKC.

At post 12, Arthur McGowan suggests that Clinton wanted it to appear to be a domestic plot so that he could pin the blame on domestic enemies:

"So foreign terrorists were responsible for OKC? Covered up by Clinton--who then attempted to pin the blame on HIS enemies, not the COUNTRY'S enemies? It was more important to him to damage his political opponents than to defend the country against an external threat."

Then at post 17, the gillman@blacklagoon.com suggests that Clinton would actually have liked to have had a Middle Eastern terrorist act occur during his Presidency:

"He was hoping for the big event, 911, to happen on his watch, which would have made him king. Can't trust those middle easterners. No sense of time or dates.

Has anyone yet come up with a sensible and internally consistent theory as to why the Government would have wanted to distort the history of this event? Or are people still just trying to gather the facts?

It is very interesting stuff. Good work!

38 posted on 04/19/2002 10:17:41 AM PDT by humbletheFiend
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To: Registered
John Lepney is the other American's name with Terry Nichols....who is he....where is he?
40 posted on 04/19/2002 10:59:27 AM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: boston_liberty
They wanted to do their press conference on the 7th anniversary of the OKC bombings, I guess. But yeah, I wish they would have held it back to Monday.

Maybe even better, I wish the investigators would have gone on O'Reilly/Hannity a few times to "tease" the upcoming revelations so it would have had some momentum.

41 posted on 04/19/2002 11:03:38 AM PDT by berned
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To: Ann Archy
Type that into Google and see what happens...
42 posted on 04/19/2002 11:05:30 AM PDT by Registered
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To: humbletheFiend
It has been offered that 1994 GOP election had more to do with Waco than the 1993 tax increase. Secondly, after the 1993 WTC bombing, Clinton polled weak on 'terrorism' and thus could not afford two attacks on American soil plus a Waco in one term.
43 posted on 04/19/2002 11:08:25 AM PDT by JohnGalt
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To: Ann Archy
Nothing.
44 posted on 04/19/2002 11:09:48 AM PDT by Registered
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To: Registered
Stephen Jones said as much in his book, so frankly, I am struggling with what is new here to give the story some legs this time.

The widow's confession sounds a lot like Luther "Jerry" Parks wife saying that her husband was kill by Clinton for what he knew, and yet the story has not gone anywhere in 9 years.

Timmerman has been wrong on scandals before, but my concern is that the Conservative Johnny-come-lately press (I include Judicial Watch) is shedding light on the same information to push the agenda for war on Iraq.

Worse, the General Partin 'cutter charge' group is starting to look like a disinformation effort to keep the focus off a basic question: what the f*** was Terry Nicholas doing in the Phillipines all those times?

45 posted on 04/19/2002 11:14:49 AM PDT by JohnGalt
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To: humbletheFiend
Has anyone yet come up with a sensible and internally consistent theory as to why the Government would have wanted to distort the history of this event?

I'll give you MY humble working theory...(FWIW)

I think clinton knew in advance that it was going to happen, that a homemade truck bomb would do SOME damage to the bldg. I believe Clinton saw this as a golden opportunity to pin the blame on the "right-wing clinton haters", using McVeigh as poster-boy/patsy.

I believe clinton sent in black ops personell to wire the Murrah Bldg with military-grade explosives which were armed with seismic triggers. When McVeigh set off his truck bomb, it detonated the (REAL) inside bombs, and took down the bldg. Clinton then immediately went on the offensive, blaming "right-wing talk radio" (which was starting to ask hardball questions about Vince Foster, Waco, whitewater, etc) for inciting the American people into "mistrusting their government".

This halted the Contract with America in it's tracks. Clinton quickly caught McVeigh, demolished the Murrah bldg evidence. Case closed. It was the right-wing clinton hater nuts who did it.

They have every reason to cover up the truth because, IMHO they engineered the tragedy.

46 posted on 04/19/2002 11:15:28 AM PDT by berned
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To: Registered
Thanks for putting this out there ... We have learned through time that we control very little. We can work to support truth and the right thing to do ... then we must let it go. Power above and beyond us is there ... always.
47 posted on 04/19/2002 11:26:22 AM PDT by Countyline
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To: berned
Ahh, the Cynthia McKinney from the Right theory...
48 posted on 04/19/2002 11:29:58 AM PDT by JohnGalt
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To: humbletheFiend
The following makes sense to me: Clinton didn't want to disturb the "good times"; he also hoped that, by not responding to WTC I, and OKC, there would be a bigger atrocity which WOULD rouse the populace and make him, effectively, King. Unfortunately for Clinton, Bush gets to be King instead. The Patriot Act is an abomination. It should be repealed or appealed to the USSC as soon as possible.
49 posted on 04/19/2002 11:30:45 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: berned
I believe clinton sent in black ops personell to wire the Murrah Bldg with military-grade explosives which were armed with seismic triggers. When McVeigh set off his truck bomb, it detonated the (REAL) inside bombs, and took down the bldg. Clinton then immediately went on the offensive, blaming "right-wing talk radio" (which was starting to ask hardball questions about Vince Foster, Waco, whitewater, etc) for inciting the American people into "mistrusting their government".

Works for me.

50 posted on 04/19/2002 11:34:41 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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