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Why Elitists Dump on the South
NEWSMAX ^ | 4/19/02

Posted on 04/19/2002 12:24:19 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

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To: dead
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Give or take a few New Yorkers, have to make sure to get all of them. One thing for sure, go anywhere in the US, tell them you are from NYC and they immediately put you in the right category.

41 posted on 04/19/2002 2:10:00 PM PDT by cynicom
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To: cynicom
One thing for sure, go anywhere in the US, tell them you are from NYC and they immediately put you in the right category.

And what category would that be? Racist? Elitist? Snooty?

I've been down south plenty of times, and the people I met never put me in any of those categories.

Perhaps your problems in that area are self-inflicted.

42 posted on 04/19/2002 2:22:14 PM PDT by dead
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To: Ditto
I knew I should have used Teddy as my example. It's what I really meant anyway.

Know why Teddy is sooooo LIBERAL? It's cause he's afraid some socialist nut job will shoot him too if he doesn't stand to the left of them. ;^)

43 posted on 04/19/2002 2:46:42 PM PDT by sinclair
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To: dead
dead...

I live in NC presently. Obnoxious is the usual trait tacked on NY ers. Having been away for many years, I would have to agree.

44 posted on 04/19/2002 3:00:18 PM PDT by cynicom
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I used to do a lot of corporate recruiting for recently or about to be graduating engineers for a large electronics company ( ahem) in Texas. It was alway fun dealing with the 'kids' from the northeast. One guy from Penn State (after landing in Houston) said, "I guess this means that I'm not going to see any tumbleweeds, huh?" I said, "This is the Bayou City, and where did you say you went to school?"
You would not believe some of the things these kids thought. ....and, they were beside themselves when they heard me say that we weren't making them a job offer.
45 posted on 04/19/2002 3:34:22 PM PDT by blam
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To: Ditto
That's a low blow, bro.
46 posted on 04/19/2002 3:37:11 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Ditto
Johnson a JFK wanna-be? He heated Kennedy's guts...

Ummm, I knew they tended to nail anything that moves, but that's the first I'd heard of them being rainbow warriors!

47 posted on 04/19/2002 3:40:17 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Space Wrangler
Raised in various parts of the South, and later spent several years in the Northeast. By far the most openly racists comments I heard was up North. Look at the demographics, there is not a more segregated area of the country than the Northeast.
48 posted on 04/19/2002 3:43:18 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
The mistake is in referring to the Leftwing poseurs as "elitists." They represent the same smug, parochial ignorance as in the 1840s, when the effective Left first really got started in American life. Edgar Allan Poe ridiculed the pretensions of the New England literary circles and their smug pretentions in his book reviews of the 1840s.

I have personally perused the journals of some of the New England and Oberlin Abolitionist Societies in the stacks of the Oberlin College Library, and it was obvious even to this one time (long ago) undergraduate, that most of those writing of the Old South had never been South of the 40th parallel.

Of course, there is another factor present today. The modern Fabian Socialists--such as the Clintons--have been using the Southern traditionalists in much the same way that the Nazis used the Jews, as a scapegoat for the problems of the mob. Thus we have the marriage of many generations of ignorance with 20th Century demagoguery of the worst sort.

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49 posted on 04/19/2002 3:48:18 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: bourbon
"The author makes an enormous error in this article. The Mind of the South was not written by C. Vann Woodward during Vietnam but by W.J. Cash in 1941."

I thought he had it wrong. Yes, you are right. A history professor of mine in college talked about Wilber Cash and The Mind of the South in class a lot.

50 posted on 04/19/2002 3:58:38 PM PDT by Irene Adler
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To: Diddle E. Squat
That's a low blow, bro.

Sorry --- I just couldn't help myself. It was too easy.

51 posted on 04/19/2002 4:20:18 PM PDT by Ditto
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To: Diddle E. Squat
LBJ hated the name Kennedy. Keep in mind that LBJ was first and foremost an FDR New Dealer because as a Southern Democrat he absolutely loved pork. JFK and his corrupt old man were not all that impressed with FRD or the socialist wonks he had in his administration. JFK was pro business and anti-tax. For LBJ coming out of the corrupt Texas political system, the more pork the better. Dollars to spend gave the political class more and more power. Kennedy (John) was more of a fiscal moderate. Yes LBJ made a lot of Southern segregationists mad at him for following JFKs Civil Rights agenda, but he made it up to them in money from Uncle Sam. Nixon, who had the same Civil Rights agenda as Kennedy, did the same thing in spades.

If you want to lay blame for the welfare state, there are 3 presidents you need to go after. FDR for laying the foundation. LBJ for raising expectations. And Richard Nixon for delivering on those expectations. The Fed Budget went to 70% "non-discretionary" by the end of the 70s.

52 posted on 04/19/2002 4:32:58 PM PDT by Ditto
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To: Ditto
I'm with you, you made excellent points. I was just having fun with an inadvertant slip of the keyboard.
53 posted on 04/19/2002 4:49:55 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Space Wrangler
but watch what happens if a black family moves in next door. These people are the worst kind of hypocrites

That's what gets me- I sure get tired of being tarred as a racist, homophobic, ( fill in the blank ) extremist by people who don't know a daggone thing about me except that I'm a conservative from South Georgia.

The guy across the street from me is a black guy who builds houses. He's a good neighbor...
The gal next door, ahem! preferrs women, if you get my drift. She's a good neighbor...
But those white folks across the street who like to get likkered up & hoot & holler.... well, I wouldn't mind if they'd move on down the road.

54 posted on 04/19/2002 5:30:28 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: Dan from Michigan
We did give Gerry Ford..(wait, nevermind).

That's ok, you made up for it with this guy


55 posted on 04/19/2002 5:41:40 PM PDT by jla
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To: jla
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Go SPARTANS!


56 posted on 04/19/2002 5:53:13 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan
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bump
57 posted on 04/19/2002 6:48:09 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: lugsoul
...southern literature literature (Welty, Faulkner) etc...

My, my, my. All those famous sothron authors. How can we compete? I guess we'll just have to be content with northern authors like Herman Melville and Ernest Hemingway and John Steinbeck. James Fennemore Cooper, Nathaniel Hawthorn, Washington Irving, and Henry David Throreau. Ambrose Bierce and Stephen Crane. Julia Ward Howe, Louisa Mae Alcott, and Laura Ingalls Wilder. Emily Dickinson, Walt Whitman, Henry Wadsworth Longfellow, Ralph Waldo Emerson, Carl Sandburg, and Robert Frost. And then there's Horatio Alger, Henry James, L. Frank Baum, Edith Wharton, and Upton Sinclair, and don't forget Sinclair Lewis. Jack London and O. Henry. Then there's Eugene O'Neil and Henry Miller and e.e. cummings, and, well you get the idea.

58 posted on 04/19/2002 7:02:09 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: warchild9
Q: What's the difference between the south and yogurt? A: Yogurt has a living culture.
59 posted on 04/19/2002 7:04:40 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Libertarianize the GOP; Cloud William; 4ConservativeJustices; one2many; billbears...
Thanks for the ping, Libertarianize the GOP.

The rest of these United States blame us for alot of things, but they always leave out a few: Family values, Christianity, Respect, BBQ, NASCAR, Monster Trucks, Southern Rock, Blues, Folk Music, Honor, Fishing, Hunting, Cowboys, Farmers, tractors, flea markets, the Grand 'Ol Opry and just plain old Southern nights with twinklin' stars.

As Ernest Tubbs once said, "you can call me a hillbilly, but you better smile."

60 posted on 04/19/2002 9:38:18 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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