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International Criminal Court
http://www.gunowners.org ^ | 4/19/02 | Gun Owners of America

Posted on 04/19/2002 4:35:57 PM PDT by JoeBob

New Threat to Your Gun Rights Becomes a Reality -- Help Rep. Ron Paul stop the new UN court from grabbing your guns

Gun Owners of America E-Mail/FAX Alert 8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151 Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408 http://www.gunowners.org

(Friday, April 19, 2002) -- You stand before the judges, accused of failing to register your firearms. You look around the room, and there are no civilians to try your case. Trial by jury is absent in this courtroom. Not only that, there is no presumption of innocence. You look at the judges behind the bench and realize they have been appointed by unelected bureaucrats from hostile and repressive nations around the globe.

Is this a scene from a George Orwell book? Unfortunately, this scene could someday happen since a newly established International Criminal Court (ICC) became a reality last week. On his last day in office, former President Clinton signed his name to an agreement which authorized the ICC, a global court which was officially instituted at the United Nations headquarters on April 11, after the 60th nation signed the treaty.

Thankfully, the United States Senate has still not ratified this agreement. And to ensure it never does, Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) recently introduced legislation (H.R. 4169) that calls on President Bush to revoke his predecessor's signature before the Democrat-controlled Senate can ratify the treaty.

Among other things, H.R. 4169 would:

* Call on the President to rescind the US approval of the International Criminal Court;

* Prohibit federal funds from being used to establish or operate the ICC; and

* Establish that any action taken by the ICC against an American serviceman shall be considered an act of aggression against the US.

The stakes in this battle are huge. With the advent of the anti-gun ICC, unelected bureaucrats at the UN will be able to override the national sovereignty of the US and to bring us under their thumbprint. The consequences of this will be horrendous.

The ICC will be able to second-guess almost any decision our country makes, and will claim it has the authority to haul our Presidents, governors or military leaders into court. Even our war in Afghanistan -- or the execution of Timothy McVeigh -- could be actions that would trigger the arrest and prosecution of American citizens. This is NOT speculation. This is the authority that ICC judges now have.

But this treaty could end up doing more than just hauling military or elected officials into court. Gun owners have much to fear from these global tyrants. It is no secret that at several of their recent conventions, UN officials have been actively trying to get the nations of the world to register firearms. In 1997, they supervised the steamrolling of firearms (yes, using actual steamrollers) in the streets of Brazil. And to make their intentions absolutely clear, they have even erected a statute of a gun with a barrel twisted into a knot in front of their New York headquarters. To be sure, the UN has demonstrated its hatred for civilians owning guns in a myriad of ways.

So what happens if, somewhere down the road, you don't comply with UN gun registration or a firearms ban? Will the UN be able to prosecute you before the International Criminal Court? Will UN Blue Helmets be able to search your home for evidence? (You can forget about any Fourth Amendment protections that keep your home from being searched without a warrant.)

The treaty which establishes the court claims jurisdiction to prosecute gross human abuse. But there's no reason to think that this permanent court is going to limit itself to prosecuting real dictators. The judges on the court could be from Cuba, Iraq, Russia or Red China. Don't expect to read about ICC prosecutions of folks like Fidel Castro or Saddam Hussein. Rather, one can fully expect that, similar to judges in our country, these judges will make law "from the bench" and expand the court's jurisdiction every chance they get.

If you think we have a problem in this country with judges making up the law and failing to respect your gun rights, how bad of a problem do you think this will be at the UN level where these tyrants have no concept of what the Second Amendment is?

Rep. Paul correctly notes the International Criminal Court is an "illegitimate court" that was established contrary to the provisions of the American Declaration of Independence and U.S. Constitution. The court puts United States citizens in jeopardy of "unlawful and unconstitutional criminal prosecution," he says, "[and] especially at risk of politically motivated arrests, prosecutions, fines, and imprisonments."

ACTION: Please ask your Representative to cosponsor Ron Paul's bill(H.R. 4169) which will help keep our country from placing itself under the jurisdiction of the anti-gun International Criminal Court.


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; homeschoollist; libertarians; nwo; ronpaullist; sasu; sovereigntylist; unlist

1 posted on 04/19/2002 4:35:57 PM PDT by JoeBob
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To: JoeBob;*Bang_List;Libertarians;Ron Paul List;*UN_List
Can't put up an ICC Bump list so this will have to do for now.

Ping, Bang, Bump.

Time to put pressure on our congress critters. Get the U.S. out of the U.N.!!!

EBUCK

2 posted on 04/19/2002 4:50:51 PM PDT by EBUCK
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To: madfly
fyi
3 posted on 04/19/2002 4:57:07 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: EBUCK;*"NWO";*Sovereignty_list

4 posted on 04/19/2002 4:58:50 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: Carry_Okie, Homeschool_list; erizona;hsmomx3;larryjohnson; KentuckyWoman; MHGinTN; carolina...
ping
5 posted on 04/19/2002 5:18:05 PM PDT by madfly
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To: ShadowAce, bettina0, twyn1, tutstar, Lizavetta; wasp69; cantfindagoodscreenname; BallandPowder...
ping
6 posted on 04/19/2002 5:19:04 PM PDT by madfly
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To: backhoe;UN_List, Sabertooth...
ping
7 posted on 04/19/2002 5:20:18 PM PDT by madfly
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To: OWK, Patriot76, Mulder, RLK, sinkspur, brat, mbb bill, VRW Conspirator, Iscool, shield, supe
ping
8 posted on 04/19/2002 5:21:15 PM PDT by madfly
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To: jackbob; Jhoffa; eagleflightpath; t-shirt; It'salmosttolate; Eustace; expose...
ping
9 posted on 04/19/2002 5:22:25 PM PDT by madfly
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To: Teacher317, Monitor, Area51, Blood of Tyrants, Frohickey, Shooter 2.5, Redbob, Copernicus, Twodee
ping
10 posted on 04/19/2002 5:23:11 PM PDT by madfly
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To: madfly
Get the US out of the UN NOW:

Link and petition here

Link and petition here

Link here

11 posted on 04/19/2002 5:27:59 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: JoeBob; madfly
Why doesn't the UN want to disarm the Arabs? Why do we have to turn in weapons, and the militant islamaniacs are even allowed to kill Israeli citizens according to the UN?
12 posted on 04/19/2002 5:29:40 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: EBUCK;madfly
Get the U.S. out of the U.N.!!!

And get the U.N. out of the U.S. Send all of those whackos back where they came from. They can turn the U.N. building into a high rise for the homeless for all I care. It's not much better than that now.

13 posted on 04/19/2002 5:31:54 PM PDT by Brownie74
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To: madfly
First criminal for UN world court? France and Spain want
to question Dr. Henry Kissinger

Investigators from France and Spain want to question Henry Kissinger, the former
US secretary of state, about terrorist crimes orchestrated by Latin American
dictators in the Seventies when he visits London next week.
Full Story Click Here
14 posted on 04/19/2002 5:36:08 PM PDT by It'salmosttolate
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To: madfly
Thanks for the pings in reply # 5, # 7 and # 9.
15 posted on 04/19/2002 5:52:51 PM PDT by Free the USA
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To: knighthawk
"Why doesn't the UN want to disarm the Arabs?"

Excellent question. But (sadly), I think you already know the answer.

16 posted on 04/19/2002 6:13:50 PM PDT by Paulie
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To: JoeBob
The U. S. Constitution is being displaced or marginalized by the increasing influence and authority of internationalist busibodies who are reflexive hostile to this nation. It's up to Bush to exercise some leadership and say that, as well as tell them to play jam. Now, let's see if we elected an American president a year and a half ago.
17 posted on 04/19/2002 6:20:09 PM PDT by RLK
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To: JoeBob
My concern with this legislation is that if it fails, it will somehow legitimize the UN Global Court.

Having said that, this tyrannical Global Court is illegal and illigitimate, regardless of what happens with this legislation. It holds no authority over the United States, since We the People have not given our consent for it. The "global court" has no standing before a Free people.

An even better bill would be one that immediately cuts off payments to the UN and withdraws us from the UN.

18 posted on 04/19/2002 6:21:10 PM PDT by Mulder
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To: Brownie74
They can turn the U.N. building into a high rise for the homeless for all I care. It's not much better than that now.

Better yet, they can use it as a replacement for the World Trade Center. That would be fitting.

19 posted on 04/19/2002 8:19:25 PM PDT by Euro-American Scum
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To: Free the USA
Sorry about that.

We have corrected our records sir, (or madame)
and the next 3 pings will be free of charge! :(.

20 posted on 04/19/2002 9:01:42 PM PDT by madfly
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To: It'salmosttolate
Wow. Good article from across the pond. Very interesting.
21 posted on 04/19/2002 9:04:03 PM PDT by madfly
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To: JoeBob
BTTT
22 posted on 04/19/2002 9:50:13 PM PDT by Bump in the night
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To: amom;68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub;Alamo-Girl;Yellow Rose of Texas
BTTT
23 posted on 04/19/2002 9:50:57 PM PDT by Bump in the night
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To: JoeBob
bump
24 posted on 04/19/2002 10:07:34 PM PDT by niki
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To: madfly
Thank you for the heads up!
25 posted on 04/19/2002 10:38:34 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: JoeBob
bttt
26 posted on 04/19/2002 10:50:44 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
bump
27 posted on 04/20/2002 7:02:30 AM PDT by madfly
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To: madfly
bump
28 posted on 04/20/2002 7:03:06 AM PDT by madfly
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To: JoeBob
bttt
29 posted on 04/20/2002 7:08:11 AM PDT by madfly
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To: JoeBob
Click here to sign Petition to OPPOSE the ICC !!!.....

President Bush we stand behind you 100% !!!

David

30 posted on 07/01/2002 10:47:56 PM PDT by davidosborne
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