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Sir Francis Dashwood's Journal | 4-20-02 | Sir Francis Dashwood

Posted on 04/20/2002 7:28:09 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood

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To: PsyOp
When I hear conservatives use the rhetoric, I cringe...

I'm with you on that. Just like there are Liberals who don't know why they are liberal, there are Conservatives who don't know why they are conservative. Knowing the philosphical underpinnings of issues helps to clarify them. I, for one, describe myself as a conservative with libertarian tendencies. I would dump about two/thirds of the federal code into the nearest harbor (and to hell with the environmentalists).

Some of what passes for conservatism these days would have the Founders taking up arms again. Perhaps these posts will provide some ammunition to fight that battle.

Thinking on a deeper level requires effort some people are plainly too lazy to attempt. This is why you will find those more amenable to such thought here at Free Republic instead of on prime time television (the modern version of Plato's Cave Allegory) or other discussion forums.

This can sometimes be a challenge even here, because of the influences comic book pop culture. Make no mistake though, the Leftists who run the established institutions know exactly what they are doing. It is our task to lead the others out of that Cave...

21 posted on 04/20/2002 8:21:32 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood
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To: PsyOp
"I, for one, describe myself as a conservative with libertarian tendencies. I would dump about two/thirds of the federal code into the nearest harbor (and to hell with the environmentalists). Some of what passes for conservatism these days would have the Founders taking up arms again. Perhaps these posts will provide some ammunition to fight that battle."

We should REQUIRE all members of the House of Reprehensibles and Senate to read and memorize these excellent threads......lest we do indeed take up arms again:)
22 posted on 04/20/2002 8:59:02 PM PDT by conserve-it
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To: conserve-it
We should REQUIRE all members of the House of Reprehensibles and Senate to read and memorize these excellent threads......lest we do indeed take up arms again:)

Funny you should mention that. Remember when Newt Gingrich told that freshman group of congressmen that they needed to brush up on certain classics? That is when I went and created these author specific quote compilations. I figured they would probably be a little busy and might like my cliff notes versions.

I put together a sample and sent it to Newts office. As I was still hoping to get these published at that time (still a work in progress) I told him that I would be willing to supply all his freshman with copies if they wanted to pay a small fee. Never heard a word from his office. Not even a "thanks, but no thanks" form letter. So Free Republic will be the gratis beneficiary.

If it were up to me, a person would have to pass something akin to a SAT test on political philosophy before they could even put their name on a ballot. Hell, I'd be satisfied with a test on the Constitution and Bill of Rights!

23 posted on 04/20/2002 9:16:10 PM PDT by PsyOp
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To: PsyOp
" Hell, I'd be satisfied with a test on the Constitution and Bill of Rights!"

Stateman Aptitude Test SAT....Wonder if any could score over 200?
24 posted on 04/20/2002 10:22:50 PM PDT by conserve-it
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To: conserve-it
Statesman Aptitude Test - SAT

ROTFLOL!!! We have a winner!

25 posted on 04/20/2002 10:26:45 PM PDT by PsyOp
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To: straight on red; JohnHuang2
None of the above establishes a Biblical mandate for American tax payers to support current middle east policy.

Tell me, where am I making that claim?

I am not.

However, I will say this: The international Left supports the enemies of the United States and Israel. Terrorism is a threat to the sovereignty and security of this nation and Congress has approved military action (they should have made a declaration of war, I would agree on this). With that said, there is a Constitutional mandate for action (military, economic and otherwise) for the U.S. government to act...

What Biblical or Constitutional mandate supports your position? I have yet to see one.

26 posted on 04/21/2002 6:17:57 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood
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To: straight on red
The only thing that threatens American national security is the potential for international backlash against the decades of imperialist aggression.

This red-flagged the whole thing. It is the standard Leftist 'hate America first' line from places like Beerkeley.

You still have not given me a Constitutional citation concerning U.S. support for Israel. Most of the enemies of Israel are enemies of the United States. We are at war. Although I would have liked a formal Congressional declaration of it; LET'S ROLL !

29 posted on 04/21/2002 5:45:36 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood
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To: straight on red
BTW, I did not say you were making that claim. I just said what you posted does not support such a mandate.

It was not my intent to do so. It is the philisophical basis of the Left I am attacking...

30 posted on 04/21/2002 6:01:54 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
The Europeans hate the Jews, the leftist Jews hate the Jews, the liberals hate the Jews! If you ask me that is paranoia? May be you should consider the radical right-wing policy of Sharon as the reason for the worldwide opposition. The French election over the weekend of a right wing candidate caused a dramatic alarm all over? You should also be alarmed at Sharon the ultra right Prime Minster!
31 posted on 04/22/2002 6:18:53 AM PDT by philosofy123
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To: philosofy123
The Europeans hate the Jews, the leftist Jews hate the Jews, the liberals hate the Jews! If you ask me that is paranoia? May be you should consider the radical right-wing policy of Sharon as the reason for the worldwide opposition.

How about considering the a$$holes who strap bombs to little kids, bomb pzza palors or fly airplanes full of civilians into buildings???

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The French election over the weekend of a right wing candidate caused a dramatic alarm all over? You should also be alarmed at Sharon the ultra right Prime Minster!

Why? Who's side are you on anyway?

32 posted on 04/22/2002 7:52:21 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood
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To: straight on red
You sound to me like a Leftist conspiracy theorist. The big, evil corporations, blah, blah, blah.

I'm tired of those who undermine the conservative movement by these wild unsubstantiated allegations. Leftist subterfuge.

It is those like you that have cost us election after election by promoting the general public thought we are all a bunch of UFO conpiracy cult members.

You need to grow up and realize that although things are not what they seem to be, sometimes it is what is not said that has the most impact.

34 posted on 04/22/2002 8:59:51 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
> "...although things are not what they seem to be (1),
sometimes it is what is not said (2) that has the most impact.

Are you responding to what _straight on red_ did say, or what he did not say?

In light of your own guidelines, how exactly should I interpret your post? Since it's not what it seems to be (1), and what you don't say is more important than what you say (2), are you actually saying you endorse conspiracy theories and welcome such people into the republican party?

Mark W.

37 posted on 04/22/2002 10:04:59 AM PDT by MarkWar
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To: MarkWar
In light of your own guidelines, how exactly should I interpret your post?

Why don't you read the initial post of this thread and tell me?

38 posted on 04/22/2002 10:52:12 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood
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