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High-quality scans of anthrax letters
www.anthrax-letters.com ^ | April 1, 2002? | Anonymous <anthrax-letters at comcast.net>

Posted on 04/20/2002 8:43:48 PM PDT by Mitchell

Here is my description of the information at the web site above:

An anonymous person has, through a FOIA request, obtained copies of the FBI photographs of three of the anthrax letters and envelopes. High-quality scans are posted on the web site in TIFF format. These are much higher quality than the images on the FBI web site, and the photos include rulers next to the letters, so the sizes can be measured.

The images are much too big to be posted here. Go to the web site and download them if you are interested. (Links to the TIFF images are near the bottom of the web page.)

The author of this web site has a bizarre theory that the letters have hidden imagery on them. I do not subscribe to this strange idea, but I appreciate the efforts of this person to obtain, scan in, and post these photographs.


TOPICS: Anthrax Scare; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anthrax; envelopes; fbi; letters; photographs; scanned
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I have nothing to do with the FOIA request, and I have no idea whose web site this is (the owner is anonymous); I just came across the site in a search. So I can't vouch for the legitimacy of the scanned photos, but they look real (and faking them would be a fairly elaborate and pointless hoax).

The author and date listed above are from the domain name registration for the domain name anthrax-letters.com.

I measured the dimensions of the letters, and here's what I found:

Brokaw letter: 219 mm x 224 mm, 8.6" x 8.8"

NY Post letter: 162 mm x 224 mm, 6.4" x 8.8"

Daschle letter: 205 mm x 215 mm, 8.1" x 8.5"

I think these figures are accurate to within a few millimeters. (Some of the sides aren't very straight, so the letters aren't even really rectangles.)

As far as I can tell, these are not standard paper sizes. Moreover, several of the sides look like they were cut with a pair of scissors, with no real attempt to keep the edge straight or at a 90-degree angle with respect to the other sides.

Does anybody have an explanation as to why the preparers would have cut their pieces of paper instead of simply using standard paper out of the box? (Or are these unusual standard sizes that I don't recognize?)

1 posted on 04/20/2002 8:43:49 PM PDT by Mitchell
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To: Nogbad; keri; The Great Satan; aristeides; okie01; Shermy; right_to_defend; muawiyah; infowars
Ping.
2 posted on 04/20/2002 8:45:12 PM PDT by Mitchell
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To: Mitchell
Wow..great pictures.
3 posted on 04/20/2002 8:52:47 PM PDT by joyce11111
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To: Mitchell
Good find Mitchell. The Daschle letter looks really different.
4 posted on 04/20/2002 9:04:59 PM PDT by keri
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To: Mitchell
Very interesting reading, especially the information at Ed Lake's site.

I didn't realize there had been previous mailings nearly identical to the anthrax ones and that the anthrax mailings might have actually been a second batch of letters sent out by the same person. I don't know what to make of the images except to say they are mysterious.

5 posted on 04/20/2002 9:06:35 PM PDT by lsee
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To: Mitchell
The author of the website you linked has attempted to outline some figures and drawings he thinks are present on the piece of paper, but not readily seeable to the "untrained" eye.

Please tell me that he hasn't outlined what I think he has outlined in the Daschle letter.........

Cheese

7 posted on 04/20/2002 9:23:37 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: Mitchell
Near as I can tell, the Brokaw and NYPost letters are both copies of the same original -- though the Brokaw copy has been reduced by a small percentage.

The letters appear to have the identical relation to each other -- horizontally and vertically. And the same idiosyncracies appear in both -- taller cap letters for nouns, heavier weight horizontal strokes in the same places, etc.

Why would they make a copy of a copy? And reduce it? Then, as you ask, trim the paper down? What purpose could have been served...???

I wonder if the Leahy letter was a copy of the same original as Daschle's. And whether one of them was a reduction of the other...

11 posted on 04/20/2002 9:55:31 PM PDT by okie01
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Why would they make a copy of a copy? And reduce it? Then, as you ask, trim the paper down? What purpose could have been served...???

From what I've read, many copiers aren't quite 1:1 but rather enlarge things very slightly. This is to ensure that the copy can go all the way to the edge of the paper without misalignment causing the edge of the glass to show even with a well-aligned original.

As for why the paper was cut, this may be to avoid the types of die-cutter analysis described above. If someone buys a pair of scissors, cuts the papers, and then destroys the paper edges and the scissors analysis of the cut edges would be rendered unproductive.

12 posted on 04/20/2002 10:23:09 PM PDT by supercat
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"From what I've read, many copiers aren't quite 1:1 but rather enlarge things very slightly."

Actually, even when set at 100%, I believe copiers reduce the image size by about 2-3%. This is mandated by law, so that a xerographic copy of dollar bill won't work in a vending machine.

But the reduction is so small it's not detectable by the naked eye.

The type on the Brokaw letter is perceptibly smaller, suggesting a reduction in the range of 10-15%. Which means they sought out a machine with a reduction function...and used it.

Your point about taking scissors to the paper in order to disguise the die-cut, though, might be very relevant. I understand that, while standard paper size in the US is 8.5" x 11", the standard for the rest of the world (along with the rest of the world's copy machines) is slightly different.

If these copies were made outside the USA, on differently-sized paper, the scissor cuts (if that's what they are) could be an attempt to mask this fact.

13 posted on 04/20/2002 10:45:17 PM PDT by okie01
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To: expatriot
"What type of scanner, scanning equipment, and software did the FBI use?" I familiar also with many of the vendors who provide the erquipment and the software, was despeckling used? Is this "noise" in an image?

According to the web site, the FBI sent this individual actual photographs in response to a FOIA request. This person (not someone at the FBI) is the one who scanned the photos.

I don't give any credence to the fanciful images, etc., that the person says he sees. They're artifacts (whether artifacts of the mind, or optical illusions, or from the scanning doesn't really matter). I am interested in the high-quality images, complete with size information, and what they can tell us.

14 posted on 04/20/2002 10:55:54 PM PDT by Mitchell
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To: expatriot
Update me if you get them....

I'm not the person making the FOIA requests; I just found the site with the TIFF images in a web search.

15 posted on 04/20/2002 10:58:57 PM PDT by Mitchell
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A closer examination of the photographs shows that there is some distortion of the aspect ratio. Each photo contains a horizontal ruler and a vertical ruler. But if you flip one of them 90 degrees, it doesn't seem to line up exactly with the other one. (I presume this means that the photos were taken at a slight angle, or not from directly in front of the subject.)

I'll need to take a closer look and re-do the measurements I reported initially, since they're probably a little bit off for this reason.

16 posted on 04/20/2002 11:11:55 PM PDT by Mitchell
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For what it's worth, the WSJ reported about three months agao that the letters were written on paper that is a standard size in Europe, but very rare in the U.S.

This may support the idea that the edges have been trimmed by FBI lab people.

17 posted on 04/20/2002 11:21:35 PM PDT by Big Bunyip
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Thanks for t��������he information and ideas on dies. I see that the cuts could have been made to disguise the size of the paper (European vs. American) or even the detailed "fingerprint" of the die used. (It's also possible that the FBI excised samples of these letters for analysis. I would imagine photos would be taken for documentation purposes before removing samples, but that's just a guess.)
18 posted on 04/20/2002 11:30:12 PM PDT by Mitchell
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To: hole_n_one
LOL.

Just to be sure there's no misunderstanding, I give no credence at all to these claimed fanciful images, nor to the "image enhancements" posted on the web site. I do think that the high-quality scans of the FBI photos are of interest, however.

19 posted on 04/20/2002 11:34:23 PM PDT by Mitchell
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To: keri
The Daschle letter looks really different.

I agree. I've thought all along that it looks like it was written by the same hand, but under different circumstances (different pen?, different writing surface?, different emotional state?, ...).

20 posted on 04/20/2002 11:37:36 PM PDT by Mitchell
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