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To: Feenian
You think and write like a Nazi. This is the way Hitler talked. Others only understand brute force. We, the superior race, will dominate the lesser races and bring a new world order into being. Right out of their playbook.

Well, it didn't take long for a Jew-baiter to show up, did it? The fact is, this story differs in several details from the one that was published in the Washington Post. Indeed, it differs mightily from the account of the interviews with the IDF troops that was published in The Guardian, of all papers, two days ago.

Tell me, the IDF is primarily a reservist army. Most of them are civilians in uniform. Many of them are on leave now. Why haven't any IDF troopers bared their souls to Ha'aretz or Ma'ariv, two reliably Labour papers (and backers of Peres)? Eh? Where are the IDF guys with any conscience? Why haven't they stepped forward?

Might it be because most of the Pallie stories are lies? The Namal and Golani brigades are regular troops. The reserve battalion, however, those were regular Joes. They would have told all of Israel by now if a massacre had happened, or if Arab families had been held hostage. But they haven't, because it didn't happen.

You're seriously expecting us to buy into Pallie massacre stories simply because they tell the international press and the delegation of U.N. gauleiters what they want to hear? That the Israelis are a bunch of evil, fascist animals who can't wait to start up their own chain of death camps?

You expect us to believe stories in which not one Pallie has any story of the Israelis behaving humanely? Sorry pal, but we've all seen how Goebbels and Streicher used to operate. We're not buying.

I'm not saying that two or three guys, perhaps more, might have cracked and killed civilians, especially amongst the reserve troops. That definitely happened. You'll notice, however, that the reporter gave short shrift to IDF reports that the Pallies had used plumbing mines, trashcan bombs, and alleyways with interlocking fields of fire.

There's also another aspect of this story that strikes me as suspicious. Nablus' casbah fell to regular Israelis who advanced from house to house by way of blowing holes in the walls of houses. IDF troops, towards the end of the battle, specifically mentioned that they did not do this in Jenin and they were complaining bitterly that reserve troops had been sent in there who had no idea about how to handle urban warfare. I specifically remember several junior officers going on about how they lost too many reservists because they weren't using proper tactics. They were going door-to-door, and did not have the plastique or semtex with them to blow out the walls. Only the regulars went in that way.

Your whole assertion is that the Israelis intentionally and with malice aforethought violated the fourth Geneva convention. You haven't proved a thing, and indeed, have proven far less than the latter day Julius Streicher who wrote this story.

You asserted, as if proven, that the Israeli actions were evil. No, they were not. They were the justifiable actions of citizen-soldiers attempting to defend their homeland and people against terrorist gangsters.

The war of the IDF is the same as our war. The American people understand that, and have seen through the web of lies spun by the PA talking heads.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

105 posted on 04/21/2002 4:34:52 PM PDT by section9
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