Posted on 04/22/2002 9:59:05 AM PDT by Diogenesis
Palestinians shoot three without trial - News media silent (again)
Here is the Palestinian "collaborator".
FLASHBACK TO THE "PEACEFUL" PALESTINIANS (BETHLEHEM, March 14, 2002)
In Bethlehem, Palestinian terrorists abuse and drag the bodies of men
alleged to have collaborated with, or spoke to, Israelis, March 14, 2002.
FLASHBACK TO THE "PEACEFUL" PALESTINIANS (Ramallah, March 12, 2002)
In Ramallah, Palestinian terrorists abuse and drag the bodies of men
alleged to have collaborated with, or spoke to, Israelis, March 12, 2002.
Only the UN and the EU could trust these barbarians.
They can be trusted only if kept under constant surveillance...through a scope
I’m not asking for a defense, just does any one know or has any one heard, what on earth could motivate a logical mind to find that this is not the blatantly wrong side in this conflict?
Owl_Eagle
”Guns Before Butter.”
The PA has been sending children and women to blow themselves up, and this guy is concerned that the IDF will kill them. Incredible.
Why Arafat?Joseph Farah
Please look at the photo accompanying this column.
Stare at it. View it carefully. Study the image.
This is the face of Yasser Arafat's terror.
This is what it looks like.
This is how he remains in power.
This is why we continue to deal with this murdering fiend after more than 30 years.They say a picture is worth a thousand words.
This one may be worth many more.
The story behind this photo is simple. It's not unique. The victim is called a "collaborator" by Arafat's "police force." He was one of Arafat's terrorists who was suspected of working with Israel in some way.
The important thing to understand about this photo is that this is how Arafat rules his own people – by sheer terror, by brute force, by barbaric tactics that would be unimaginable to most in the West.
Yet, we continue to deal with him. We continue to support him financially with U.S. taxpayer dollars. We continue to give him credence as an international peacemaker.
If you care to know more details, the victim was eviscerated after this picture was taken. I have photos of that, too. I will spare you the more gruesome images.
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Seconded. Where are the morally superior Euroweenies?
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Add that to the fantasy file: a U.N. that isn't anti-Semitic to the point of absurdity.
Imal
Well, before I answer, I should give you a disclaimer: I've had a hard time getting a good handle on what's really going on over there, so I'm just repeating what I've heard from others with no real way of knowing how true any of it is, or what the context is. So, feel free to consider the following a "barf alert" or whatever.
The most legitimate grievance (if it's true) I've come across is the issue of Jewish settlements in the occupied territories. Even though the settlements take up a comparatively small amount of territory, it seems that they're linked up with each other, and to the Israeli mainland, by access roads that Palestinians are prohibited from crossing except when passing through a checkpoint. This makes the West Bank a completely Balkanized country for the Palestinians. The standard anecdote that I hear a lot is that of Palestinians dying at checkpoints, trying to get to the nearest hospital. In addition, the people in the settlements, because they have full political rights as citizens where the Palestinians have none, have (allegedly) assumed full control over all water resources, leaving the Arabs with squalid conditions.
Aside from whether or not, or to what extent, any of this is true, my question is, What is the logical argument in favor of promoting and expanding civilian settlements into a war zone, where the locals have no political rights? Is that consistent with defending Israeli security?
Here is - for the first time available, the video tape (taken by Palestinian television) of a so-called "callaborator" caught by the PA secret service. Without any trial at all (not like the second video in which the callaborator was given a trial of one half hour while he was under the influence of drugs), this man was tied, layed down, and shot repetedly by Palestinian gunmen. Click the pictures in order to view the video.
Click here to see video (MPG)
This is a video tape (taken by Palestinian television) of a so-called "callaborator" caught by the PA secret service.
This man was given the privilege of an "honorable" trial, in the terms of a PA minister. This means that he was drugged, brought before an "Islamic" clergyman who listed his sins, said a couple of prayers for his dammned soul, and then taken out to shoot. After getting shot by several soldiers, one of them then took his automatic rifle, stepped up to the man, and shot him repetedly in the head.
Click here to see video (MPG)
But then no sane, unaligned person can trust the Jews in this war either as each faction has demonstrated barbarism and niether...repeat...neither...is free from guilt.
Nobody on this board thinks you're "un"- aligned, Lefty.
That’s pretty easy really. All one has to do is look at the facts.
· Which side uses violence first and in all cases?
· Which side has consistently been attacked first?
· Which side walked away from the bargaining table with a proposal containing 95% of disputed lands being surrendered (and the other 5 offset with grants of other undisputed lands)?
· Which side’s sworn goal is the complete eradication of the other?
While isolationism certainly has some appeal to it, in this region that we are currently inextricably entangled in, its useful to have a powerful ally such as Israel.
Owl_Eagle
”Guns Before Butter.”
Today is Earth Day, and, Lenin's birthday too!
You won't see many of these images in the mainstram media either, but in most of the Palestinian demonstrations (terrorist attacks actually) in Israel, the protesters are carrying red, hammer & sickle flags. The PLO is a Marxist organization, with Arafat at the helm.
Earth Day 2002
BETHLEHEM, West Bank April 22nd(AP)
- Israeli forces and armed Palestinians holed up inside the Church of the Nativity exchanged gunfire Monday, and the 3-week-old standoff at one of Christianity's holiest sites appeared far from resolution. Stun grenades were heard around the church, and a puff of white smoke rose up from the compound. A Palestinian policeman inside the church, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Israeli fire was hitting the church walls. Other policemen inside said they returned Israeli gunfire. The Israeli army would not immediately comment on the situation.
Three weeks ago, armed Palestinians fleeing Israeli troops shot open the locks of a nearby Franciscan monastery, and broke into the church compound. Since then, Israeli tanks and snipers have surrounded the compound. The church stands on a grotto where Christians believe Jesus was born.
The Israeli army says the armed Palestinians number about 230 and include some militants wanted for killing Israeli civilians or soldiers. There are also 35 priests, monks and nuns and about 50 unarmed Palestinian civilians, some of them teen-agers.
On Monday, the Israeli army seized government-issued press cards from 17 foreign and Palestinian journalists covering the standoff. The journalists were stopped about 400 yards from Manger Square and the church compound. An army officer told the journalists they were in a restricted area and insisted they turn over their press cards. The army did not produce any document backing up the claim that the area was restricted, as required by law.
The reporters and cameramen were from The Associated Press, Reuters, Agence France Presse, the British Broadcasting Corp., ABC, the ARD network of Germany, the Qatar-based Al Jazeera television station and a Spanish journalist.
That's an excellent retort.
'spoze we say there is no rational reason for either side and just go at it from a purely self-interested perspective. Who is an ally we can trust and who is an enemy that we absolutely cannot trust?
Then, let's base our action and policy on our answer to that question and disregard all the lying, doublespeaking rhetoric of both sides.
Whatayatink??
Nice anti-Semitism there. Might we be a little more comfortable with the other lefties at democraticunderground.com?
Owl_Eagle
”Guns Before Butter.”
Boy that Sec of State trip really worked well, didn't it? Maybe we can send Powell back to reward Arafat for these crimes also.
Or an Arab who happened to bump into an Israeli and said "sorry".
Or an Arab who happened to ask an Israeli what time it is, etc.
Or an Arab/Palestinian who was in the way of another Arab/Palestinian. Let's face it.......if I'm living over there and I want someone dead, all I have to say is that he/she is a "collaborator" and no one will ask any questions.
....Then again, the EUroweenies and the UNweenies aren't any too trustworthy, either.
Add that to the fantasy file
Along with an investigation of, or even an expression of concern about(?), the fact that a factory making bombs to be strapped to teenagers and used to kill noncombatants was operating IN THEIR OWN REFUGEE CAMP (i.e. Jenin).
Yeah, as soon as you can DEMONSTRATE any connection between your first sentence and your second sentence. (Fairly clever non-sequitor as it stands, for a pro-terrorist shill.)
FNC reported it this morning
Or perhaps, resistance being futile, ThreeOfSeven has surrendered to the Borgian theorum of Pythagorean master numbers.
He would not even grant Irael air space to get in and out of the country.
We need to get this info to them somehow. Arafat continues to kill the messengers.
While at the current moment, the red chinese are our number one enemy, I don’t think that islam vs. the rest of the world is too far off (if not here already). Our greatest insulation from this threat is the fact that the muslim world is embarrassingly backward and logistically would have a tough time waging a war against the West on our own doorstep aside from isolated terrorism.
That being said, the enemy today will likely be easier to defeat then the enemy tomorrow. Further, we have a country in Israel who will all too happily further this goal for dollars rather than blood. Why not take advantage of the offer?
Owl_Eagle
”Guns Before Butter.”
The fact that the Israeli's have used every method to defend themselves is not comparable to the crimes of the Palistinians but:(I forgot) You don't see that do you?
( "Board" referring, of course, to the "merry little band of Jewish apologists" who write in support of the corpulent one's barbarity and who in turn can't think objectively and impartially as individuals...rather projecting only the approved Jewish propoganda of absolute faultlessness)
Putting aside your ad-hominem smear, I was trying to make the point that if it's wrong for Palestinians to shoot Palestinians without trial then it's equally wrong for Israelis to shoot Palestinians without trial. I tried to make the issue more black and white by limiting the discussion to Palestinians who are unarmed when they get shot. I'm sorry if that went over your head.
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