Skip to comments.Machiavelli - Quotes Justify the Man
Posted on 04/22/2002 5:41:17 PM PDT by PsyOp
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I thought you should know.
A master of Machiavellian power was Henry Kissinger. Kissinger managed to survive the many bloodlettings that went on the Nixon White House not because he was the best diplomat ... there were other fine negotiators ... and not because the two men got along so well ... they didn't. Nor did they entirely share their beliefs and politics, Kissinger survived because he entrenched himself in so many areas of the political structure that to do away with him would lead to chaos. Power like Michaelangelo's was intensive, depending on one skill, his ability as an artist ... Kissinger's was extensive. He got himself involved in so many aspects and departments of the admin that his involvement became an ace card in his hand. It also made him many allies. Machiavelli would be proud! &;-)
**Bumpin'' THE MAN**
ATP: did you read "Machiavelli in Hell" yet?
Sorry, I did not mean to make it confusing.
Thanks, PsyOp, for all the quotations you have supplied. The collective IQ of the FR has gone up a few points.
Probably the most misunderstood, maligned, and yet astute political observers of all time.This was so in his day, too.
"Astute" is too mild. The problem with Machiavelli is not that he has been misunderstood but that he has been selectively abused. He was fundamentally a believer in first principles. My all-time fave Niccolo quotations are (some listed above, different translation):
May princes know then that they begin to lose [their] state at that hour in which they being to break the laws and those customs and usages that are ancient and under which men have lived for a long time.What I draw from Machiavelli is the following:
a perfect republic... that will run the whole course ordained by heaven.
... in all cities and in all peoples there are the same desires and the same humors, and the same as they always were. So it is an easy thing for whoever examines past things to foresee future [things] in each republic and to take those remedies that were used by the ancients, or not finding any used, to think up new ones based on the similitude of events
- all human affairs are politics;Machiavelli walked with the ancients as we must walk with him today. The American Founders understood this. Machiavelli was an American of 1789, just as America is Rome. This is the core of my political beliefs. I learned it from Machiavelli.
- history is alive.
(and, he liked the girlies, too...)
Do you use it to break the ice with the girls? Does it work as an opening line?
After reading the Prince, I decided to sit down and read the Discourses (all three tomes). I thought that I would have to struggle through them, but found them a very easy read in spite of their length. I have also read his version of the Art of War, but have not gotten around to extracting the quotes from it.
Even though he wrote over four hundred years ago, you can apply most everything he says to present day politics without having to account for time and place or context, which is remarkable.
"You cannot deal with people as you wish them to be, you must deal with them as they really are."
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