Skip to comments.IRS Official to Judicial Watch: Clinton Enemies Were Audited
Posted on 04/22/2002 10:00:48 PM PDT by Kay Soze
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What do you think I have been trying to tell you?
All you are telling me is that you argue like a democRAT and fear the Ron Brown case like all the rest of the move-on'ers. Thanks for making my case.
Actually I went to bed right after posting #43, and was never planning to be uncivil in any case. However, since an essentially similar thread went over 2000 posts before being locked last week, it appeared that all pertinent points had already been made on the subject.
Gee, Howlin, didn't you tell me that people lie all the time in sworn testimony? Isn't that what you said when you were trying to dismiss the sworn testimony of Linda Tripp, Kathleen Janoski and all the others who were deposed in such matters as Chinagate, Filegate, Emailgate and the death of Ron Brown ... you know, those scandals that you recently said were investigated and found to be about "NOTHING"?
I am more curious about your and Howlin's definitions of MURDER and MASS MURDER. They sound very ... well ... Clintonesque.
Answer 2: Bush runs the White House, Ashcroft runs the Justice Dept ... and the NY Times is ignoring the fact that Bush and Ashcroft are simply moving on with regards to all the serious crimes committed by Clinton and his friends. At least the NY Times is consistent.
The pertinent points won't have a thing to do with the price of eggs in China nor the actually IRS audit of the 'eWW'..... I'm sure he is as clean as the wind driven snow.... and we'll know just as soon as he gets on with the audit.
Just think he could have saved his donor many dollars by completing this audit back in 1998 when it was first requested. Instead he's strung it out and gotten deeper each year. Now he's begging for more money to spend to fight it in his estimate of $150,000 per month.
Gosh had he provided the info in 1998 he could be going about the business of ferreting out gov't corruption and taking extra cruises... maybe even filing a few more suits in the world court.... Instead he now has to spend the donors money to to do something he should have done over 3 yrs ago...
Come clean 'eWW'
Make up your own theory, please!
Please post my definitions of MURDER and MASS MURDER, along with links to where I posted them.
Auditing, auditing, auditing... a tough job but someone has to do it..... Just like monitoring gov't corruption is a tough job.....
You're right, I thought we were talking about suicide myself.
Don't read them or respond if they bother you.... simple isn't it.
This is still brought up by the leftists. Do you know of anyone who Nixon actually had audited for political purposes? I think that Nixon did more talking than actually doing corrupt things.
Well pardon me if I've gotten the mistaken impression that you agree with Howlin in thinking that Ron Brown was not murdered, and that Chinagate, Filegate etc. were properly investigated and turned out to be about "NOTHING"? If that isn't true, then by all means say so. We sure wouldn't want Howlin to think you agree with her on such serious matters, would we?
Only in that one's views on the Ron Brown matter may relate to one's credibility and motives for attacking Judicial Watch.
Also, please post where I've mentioned Ron Brown, Chinagate, or Filegate on this thread; otherwise I'll have to conclude that you are carrying arguments from thread to thread in clear violation of the rules.
Have you, of all people, forgotten Bill Clinton's sworn testimony?
Isn't that what you said when you were trying to dismiss the sworn testimony of Linda Tripp, Kathleen Janoski and all the others who were deposed in such matters as Chinagate, Filegate, Emailgate and the death of Ron Brown ...
I say again, post it right here -- for all the world to see -- EXACTLY where I said Linda Tripp wasn't telling the truth. My exact words -- not something YOU assumed. This is at least my fourth or fifth request for you to POST my EXACT words where I insinuated Linda Tripp was lying under oath.
Post it or stop saying that. Let's see who's not telling the truth here.
*Rolling my eyes*
Apply IMMEDIATELY for a job at Judicial Watch; you'll fit right in.
I have NEVER seen anybody twist so many things to make Larry Klayman look good.
I am to the point with you that I can hardly wait for Klayman to be exposed just to see you explain it to us all.
The credibility and motives of a poster are certainly germaine to any discussion involving Klayman and the Clintons. Don't you agree? By your apparent friendliness with someone (Howlin) who has espoused views that seem ... well Clintonesque ... you open yourself to scrutiny. I'm simply asking where you stand with regards to the validity of the Clinton-related crimes that Klayman helped expose (which is probably why he was audited in the first place). If your views aren't consistent in that regard, as Howlin's aren't, then perhaps the readers of this thread may reassess your dislike of Judicial Watch.
Let's have them once and for all. Put up or shut up about it.
Also again, please post where I've mentioned Ron Brown, Chinagate, or Filegate on this thread; otherwise I'll have to conclude that you are carrying arguments from thread to thread in clear violation of the rules.
What's my agenda again? I need you to tell me Howlin, because even I don't seem to know myself. Someone sounds flustered...tisk, tisk, tisk.
Yes, I would agree that Howlin has showed us her "very frustrated" side tonight. Perhaps she had a bad day at work, or just didn't get enough sleep last night.
All of this MURDER and MASS MURDER nonsense talk is merely part of a continuing effort to cover-up the SUICIDE. It's disgraceful, that's what it is.
We need to get the list of contributors as soon as possible. I want to interview each and every one of them. I'm certain that some of them know about Ron Brown's "mysterious death."
Yes, it is, especially when time is a valuable commodity for the day.
Be careful, they might get stuck there.
By the way, I have firmly concluded that you are THE beacon of Olympian Objectivity on this forum.
Just think how much time 'eWW' could have saved along with untold thousands of dollars by getting this audit behind them in 1998..... Now that would have been the ethical thing to do for his donors to thusly save their money and use it more wisely to ferret out the gov't corruption and conduct those enlightening cruises to the 'Klayman Islands'.. Gosh we must all use our time and donated resources/treasures wisely, wouldn't you think....
BAC and his girlfriend Beckie are two of the biggest Clinton/DNC fundraiser defenders on this site. Nothing should amaze us about this couple of plants.
Of course not. I was simply pointing out the inconsistency in your apparently trusting sworn testimony when it suits you but being seemingly unwilling to trust sworn testimony (by people that we supposedly admire like Linda Tripp and Janowski) when it related to the crimes of the Clinton Administration and DNC, and didn't suit you.
I say again, post it right here -- for all the world to see -- EXACTLY where I said Linda Tripp wasn't telling the truth. My exact words -- not something YOU assumed.
I not going to play your word games and definition games any more, Howlin. You made the statement on a previous thread that people lie under oath immediately after you were asked about the testimony of Linda Tripp and many of the other people Klayman deposed in the Filegate scandal. Here is the exchange that occurred between us (your statements are in italics):
You're NOT preposing that Bush and Ashcroft go to court on Larry Klayman's word alone, are you?
But it isn't Klayman's word ... its the sworn word of the people deposed. For example, in the Filegate case he has
1. The testimony of Linda Tripp, former executive assistant in the White House Counsels Office, that she observed FBI files of Republicans being loaded onto a White House computer.
2. Tripps testimony that she overheard William Kennedy, former Rose Law Firm partner of Hillary Clinton and then associate White House counsel, and Marsha Scott, the first ladys confidante, discussing Hillary Clintons plan to share the FBI files on a computer database with the Democratic National Committee.
3. The testimony of Deborah Perroy, a White House whistle-blower, that operatives of Clinton director of security for White House personnel Craig Livingstone were going through FBI and CIA files of Republicans and that it was Hillary Clinton who hired and directed Livingstone.
4. The sworn testimony of Sherry Rowlands (friend of Clinton spinmaster and pollster Dick Morris) that Morris admitted to her that Hillary Clinton was the mastermind of Filegate.
5. The Fifth Amendment claims of Clinton security assistant Anthony Marceca, where he refused to answer questions about the misuse of FBI files and the role of Hillary Clinton in their misuse, which create evidentiary inferences that Filegate happened and the first lady was involved.
6. The testimony by Tripp identifying FBI files of Republicans in the office of Kennedy, who supervised Livingstone and Marceca.
7. The testimony of Kennedys wife, Leslie Gail Kennedy, that her husband loaded FBI files onto a computer database on a laptop computer while sitting at their kitchen table.
8. The admission by Assistant White House Counsel Michelle Peterson that she and the Clinton White House planned to stall the Filegate case until after the Clintons left office.
9. Former White House counsel and longtime friend of Hillary Clinton Bernard Nussbaums admission to former FBI agent Dennis Sculimbrene that Hillary Clinton strongly recommended Livingstone for his security job. Tripp, among others, testified that Livingstone bragged about being hired by and working for Hillary Clinton. Sheryl Hall, another White House whistle-blower, testified that Livingstone worked for Hillary Clinton.
10. Photographs of Hillary Clinton with Livingstone, refuting Mrs. Clintons claims that she does not know Livingstone.
11. Sign-out logs showing a six-month gap (akin to President Nixons infamous 18-minute tape gap) in detailing who removed which FBI files from the White House Office of Personnel Security.
You want to count the number of FELONIES suggested by those depostions. And you don't want Ashcroft to investigate? You are again arguing like a democRAT. Beware.
You cannot possibly be dumb enough to believe that any SWORN TESTIMONY cannot possibly be a lie. I am a court reporter; my job is to put people under oath and watch them lie.
And you want us to believe that your reply doesn't indicate a belief that Tripp's (and the other's) testimony is a lie ... especially given the fact that you recently stated that Filegate (among other scandals) was investigated and found to be about "nothing"? Since that would be counter to what Tripp was alleging in her testimony, what other conclusion are we to draw about your opinion of Tripp's testimony then that you don't believe her? Sorry ... but your intent was obvious ... to discredit Tripp and the others testimony so you could discredit Klayman.
You think you can hide behind "exact" words and that we will ignore the intent of what you say and the inconsistencies in what you say. You thought you could use such tactics when you at first claimed you never said Brown wasn't murdered ... implying to all that read the thread that you might believe he was murdered. Too bad the internet has a memory and in a moment of candor you had previously admitted your real feelings to someone about the Brown case.
We have a perfect right to suspect your intentions ... especially since you play word games ... just like Clinton and his people did.
Produce it or admit you're not telling the truth.
Judicial Watch never cooperated with this audit in the first place because it was politically motivated to begin with. Judicial Watch's supporters agreed with JW's actions then as they do now.
Howlin, don't even bother baiting BeAChooser into your transparent demagoguery. You are switching the subject on us.
Linda Tripp did not lie under oath.
I'm sorry, BeAChooser, but that's way over the line!