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IRS Official to Judicial Watch: Clinton Enemies Were Audited
Newsmax ^ | April 23,2002 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 04/22/2002 10:00:48 PM PDT by Kay Soze

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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
"With all due respect, Rebeckie........Howlin simply believes in logic and objectivity."

Howlin is not an objective poster, her personal dislike for klayman inhibits her ability to see the good he has done. Anyway, I do not take their polemic rants very seriously anymore, especially since her and Arne call themselves "Larry's spurned lovers."

51 posted on 05/06/2002 8:57:58 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: ned
The 'eww' do something rash.... naw..... or otherwise for that matter.

Please do not panic. First , I pledge that, pursuant to law, it will be “over my dead body” before I release your name to the IRS. .....

52 posted on 05/06/2002 9:00:09 PM PDT by deport
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To: deport
As I recall, there was some talk about the need to change the stated purpose of the JW entity, wasn't there? Something to do with where all the money was going . . .
53 posted on 05/06/2002 9:02:01 PM PDT by ned
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To: ned
We do not know that for sure.
54 posted on 05/06/2002 9:02:49 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: ned
"And what side of this important issue were you on, Freedom?"

Take a wild guess Ned. You already know the answer to that question, so I am not even going to waste my breath.

55 posted on 05/06/2002 9:04:08 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
Howlin is not an objective poster, her personal dislike for klayman inhibits her ability to see the good he has done.

Freedom, one might also say that your personal admiration for Klayman inhibits your ability to see that there are serious financial questions surrounding his operation - including the allegation that JW failed to claim as income about $500,000 in grants from one of Scaiffe's foundations a few years back.

56 posted on 05/06/2002 9:04:09 PM PDT by Amelia
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To: ned
Who knows where the money is going...... The 'eww' doesn't post a list of expenditures on his website.... but some have suggested he spends very little on his legal mission.... But hey, the cruises are nice, I suspect.
57 posted on 05/06/2002 9:04:52 PM PDT by deport
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
We do not know that for sure

We do not know what for sure?

Until the audit's done, we're not going to know anything for sure. You know, as I recall, they're only asking for a list of the contributors through the year 2000. JW should just post them on his website and show the IRS up.

58 posted on 05/06/2002 9:05:22 PM PDT by ned
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To: Amelia
Thanks for the ping....I think.

All I know is that many conservative think tanks and organizations were audited for nearly the entire 2 terms of the Clinton administration - with NO findings. It was pure harassment. Just ask the Christian Coalition, The Heritage Foundation, and so on and so on.....

59 posted on 05/06/2002 9:06:14 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Amelia
"Freedom, one might also say that your personal admiration for Klayman inhibits your ability to see that there are serious financial questions surrounding his operation - including the allegation that JW failed to claim as income about $500,000 in grants from one of Scaiffe's foundations a few years back."

While it is true that I do admire the two K's--Keyes and Klayman, having a firm respect for them does not impede my ability to judge, even if I am personally not being objective myself. I do not believe that other allegation anyway.

60 posted on 05/06/2002 9:06:33 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: deport
The 'eww' doesn't post a list of expenditures on his website.... but some have suggested he spends very little on his legal mission.

JW doesn't even post its expenditures? Why not?

61 posted on 05/06/2002 9:07:34 PM PDT by ned
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To: FreedominJesusChrist

But wouldn't you like to find out.... then the issue can be put to rest.... Heck if'n the 'eww' had only completed the audit as requested back in 1998 then it would be all over, maybe better or maybe worse......


62 posted on 05/06/2002 9:08:58 PM PDT by deport
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To: deport, Howlin
" But hey, the cruises are nice, I suspect."

As I said before, you two peas in a pod should rent the swankiest cabin on the upcoming Judicial Watch cruise, and ask all of your curious questions to Larry Klayman himself. You might even come back from the trip liking Klayman and the staff of Judicial Watch, they are all top notch people, I am sure : )

63 posted on 05/06/2002 9:09:06 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
Dear child, you have much to learn. You need to figure out what's worth your effort and what is not.

You come here looking for just the opposition you receive. It is very obvious.

Surely, you don't think you can post these threads and the majority will agree with you????? Even you are smarter than that.

BTW.......humor is a very healthy part of life. Try it some time.

64 posted on 05/06/2002 9:09:09 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Amelia;all
This thread has the makings of a food fight.

43 posted on 5/6/02 11:51 PM Eastern by Amelia [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]

keep it civil or the thread gets pulled.

thank you,
admin moderator

65 posted on 05/06/2002 9:10:08 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: ned
"JW doesn't even post its expenditures? Why not?"

Do us all a favor and stop pretending as if a light bulb just went on in your head. I am sure that you have asked yourself these questions before ned.

66 posted on 05/06/2002 9:10:14 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: deport
Heck if'n the 'eww' had only completed the audit as requested back in 1998 then it would be all over, maybe better or maybe

This audit has been going on since 1998? How complicated can this audit be? How much money does JW have?

67 posted on 05/06/2002 9:11:09 PM PDT by ned
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To: Kay Soze
Does anyone remember the incident wherein Clinton was in some campaign parade up north, and a couple shouted out that he was a murderer for sending our boys overseas to die? If I remember correctly, Clinton sent his aides back and the couple was arrested. It was later reported on Fox, (I think), that their home was being watched and they were being audited by the IRS. This sounded more like something that would have occurred in some third world dictatorial country, but it happened here.

Some active FReeper should write up a petition to Bush to replace Rossotti and we could all FReep it!!!

68 posted on 05/06/2002 9:11:38 PM PDT by bjcintennessee
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To: FreedominJesusChrist

What don't you believe?......

69 posted on 05/06/2002 9:11:42 PM PDT by deport
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To: Amelia

FOOD FIGHT!

70 posted on 05/06/2002 9:12:17 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
"Dear child, you have much to learn. You need to figure out what's worth your effort and what is not. You come here looking for just the opposition you receive. It is very obvious. Surely, you don't think you can post these threads and the majority will agree with you????? Even you are smarter than that. BTW.......humor is a very healthy part of life. Try it some time."

First of all, I didn't post this thread. Second of all, I do have a sense of humor, seriously. It is hard to convey humor with words over the internet, which often lacks emotion. If you personally knew me, you probably wouldn't think I was so bad and might even consider me to be a normal 20 year old.

71 posted on 05/06/2002 9:12:59 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: deport
Never mind.
72 posted on 05/06/2002 9:13:31 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: ned
How much money?.... Who knows.... From the 2000 Form 990 he had some over $11,000,000 in the bank or assets..... but still requesting financial help....


73 posted on 05/06/2002 9:16:01 PM PDT by deport
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To: FreedominJesusChrist

LOL

74 posted on 05/06/2002 9:17:56 PM PDT by deport
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To: FreedominJesusChrist

Wouldn't you like to know for sure?

75 posted on 05/06/2002 9:19:52 PM PDT by deport
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To: deport, howlin
Well, you and Howlin just might be prime candidates for a nice cruise, especially if you two are well, older. I suppose that in another 10 or 15 years, cruises will appeal to me too.
76 posted on 05/06/2002 9:20:32 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
Not planning a very eventful life?
77 posted on 05/06/2002 9:21:24 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
Do us all a favor and stop pretending as if a light bulb just went on in your head. I am sure that you have asked yourself these questions before ned.

Oh, thank you. Now I remember. This has something to do with the Judicial Watch financial records, right?

78 posted on 05/06/2002 9:21:59 PM PDT by ned
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To: Howlin
I have plans for life alright, but that is really none of your business.
79 posted on 05/06/2002 9:22:04 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: Howlin
I meant that last statement with humor of course. I am not the type to sit around on my duff and wait for things to happen.
80 posted on 05/06/2002 9:22:55 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: deport
I already know that Judicial Watch is innocent of any of the mud slinging accusations you guys throw at them.
81 posted on 05/06/2002 9:23:52 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: deport
How do you say that number with six 0's?

Is that thousands of dollars?

82 posted on 05/06/2002 9:24:11 PM PDT by ned
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
I meant that last statement with humor of course. I am not the type to sit around on my duff and wait for things to happen.

Well maybe that's why you ought to leave all this internet gab to us oldsters and get out there and MAKE IT HAPPEN !!!!!!!

83 posted on 05/06/2002 9:28:57 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
So, anyways, where are the records now?
84 posted on 05/06/2002 9:29:05 PM PDT by ned
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To: ned

Isn't that minions..... Oh no, it's MILLIONS, gosh so much money to manage. It's a wonder the filing of suits are down.

85 posted on 05/06/2002 9:29:12 PM PDT by deport
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
You're kind of snippy tonight. Got grades?
86 posted on 05/06/2002 9:29:17 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: deport
Millions of dollars? They have MILLIONS of dollars?

Well, maybe that's why it's taking so long. Is that why they quit asking for money?

87 posted on 05/06/2002 9:31:33 PM PDT by ned
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
Accusations...... heck I'm just posting from the records that the 'eww' has filed with the gov't. Now does his filings contain errors? I don't know... If so then maybe you need to take it up with him, not me. As you like to say, make the phone call.
88 posted on 05/06/2002 9:32:33 PM PDT by deport
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
"Well maybe that's why you ought to leave all this internet gab to us oldsters and get out there and MAKE IT HAPPEN !!!!!!!"

*Sigh* And who says that I am not right now? I run my own student hobby horse organization right now. But that is not the subject we are discussing at hand.

89 posted on 05/06/2002 9:32:36 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: deport
By the way, does Judicial Watch keep those MILLIONS of dollars in a bank or just in the office? See, if you keep it in a bank, they will count it for you and that would make an audit go a lot faster, I think.
90 posted on 05/06/2002 9:33:57 PM PDT by ned
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To: Howlin; FreedominJesusChrist

Remember what Al says......."You don't have to get snippy about it."

91 posted on 05/06/2002 9:34:24 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
GO Larry GO!!

Screw the IRS and the horse they stole from you.

92 posted on 05/06/2002 9:34:48 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: ned

Did they quit asking for money? Heck you'd never guess it from looking at the web site and his latest "Dear Friend and Supporter" screed....

{snip}But, as importantly, a Judicial Watch victory will put an end – once and for all – to politically-motivated criminal audits and other IRS abuses!

Will you help me win this important fight? Will you support our legal actions to clean up the most criminally corrupt government agency in American history, the IRS – whose officials truly believe they are above the law?

Protecting our privacy, independence and constitutional rights will cost millions of dollars. The extra legal and accounting work, which must begin immediately, will cost over $150,000 in time and expense per month for the near future.

We’ve already spent over $400,000 in legal time and expenses fighting the IRS attempts to illegally audit us. (Needless to say, this was not a planned budget expense.)

Will you send us a generous contribution to fund this battle? Will you please send us a gift of $250, $500 or even $1000? I realize this is a great deal of money, but we have never been in a more serious and important fight with a corrupt government agency. And we now need your extra support to fight this battle to a successful conclusion, for the good of you, Judicial Watch and all Americans!

If you can only afford to send $100 or $50, then of course, that would help too. But we are up against powerful forces.

But, with your help, we can and will win. Please, help us help you.

Thank you. Because no one is above the law!

Sincerely,

Larry Klayman
Chairman and General Counsel

(Click Here to Contribute)


P.S. – Judicial Watch has no objection to an IRS audit at the proper time and place. But when IRS officials admit that they’re trying to audit us just because we sued President Clinton, and now Commissioner Rossotti, we will fight this illegal and criminal act. Indeed, the IRS’ criminal behavior will give us a golden opportunity to clean up corruption at this most corrupt government agency in American history!

P.P.S. – Once again, you have my word that I will legally “fight to the death” to keep the IRS at bay and keep them from getting your name from us. (SEE ATTACHMENT). And we aim to stop them once and for all from hurting people who challenge government abuse and corruption! We will not let Clinton appointee Charles Rossotti use the power of the IRS to harass us for suing the Clintons, and himself, as well as calling for his firing by the Bush administration. Please let me know you are behind us with a gift for as much as you can afford today. Thank you again.

{end}

93 posted on 05/06/2002 9:38:54 PM PDT by deport
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To: BluH2o
Clinton, on the other hand, was given a complete pass ... even though it was abundantly clear he was using the IRS to harass anyone crtical of him and his administration.

In fact, the Democrat who wrote the article of impeachment against Nixon concerning his abuse of the IRS said, after Clinton's impeachment, that Clinton abused the IRS and FBI worse than Nixon ever did and should be impeached again because of it.

94 posted on 05/06/2002 9:40:59 PM PDT by BeAChooser
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis, Howlin
I am not being snippy tonight, I feel just fine. I have just been busy and winding down the school year.
95 posted on 05/06/2002 9:42:24 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: kapn kuek
As the Judicial Watch complaint notes, the Clinton IRS also went after organizations and even media companies it perceived as politically hostile, including:

Isn't this illegal? If it is, why isn't someone in jail?

Yes, it's my understanding it's a felony ! I know one fellow who was imvestigated within one month after he signed an NRA postcard mailed to Slick Willie ! Proving it be another thing ! He had committed a minor infraction continueing some years back so those "wackos" representing us in Congress would jump on that as makin it proper, dis-regarding the "political" implications invovled! But that is why the Slick Willie Admn did it- to put a "chill" on political opposition !

96 posted on 05/06/2002 9:43:11 PM PDT by StoptheDonkey
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To: deport
Hey, I was scolded the other day for even posting a link to a JW fundraiser.
97 posted on 05/06/2002 9:43:14 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: deport
"As you like to say, make the phone call."

No, I believe that is something that you need to do, being that you are perpetually confused about Judicial Watch and believe that they actually need to be audited by a politically motivated IRS.

98 posted on 05/06/2002 9:45:27 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis, Howlin
With all due respect, Rebeckie........Howlin simply believes in logic and objectivity.

Oh ... is that how she came to the conclusion that Ron Brown wasn't murdered? LOL!

99 posted on 05/06/2002 9:46:39 PM PDT by BeAChooser
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
Did the scolding help you any?
100 posted on 05/06/2002 9:48:32 PM PDT by deport
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