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These are the changes that LePen would make if elected president of France [NYT]
NYT, from Le Pen's web site ^ | April 23, 2002 | NYT, from Le Pen's web site

Posted on 04/23/2002 1:20:15 PM PDT by summer

These are the changes that Jean-Marie Le Pen would seek to make if elected president of France, according to his campaign web site, www.lepen.tv :

o Outlaw abortion and end official recognition of same-sex unions.

o Develop programs to increase the birth rate and pay benefits to women who stay at home with their children.

o End legal immigration.

o Deport illegal immigrants and eliminate dual nationality.

o Give French citizens priority for all jobs and public housing; create a separate medical benefits system for foreigners working in France, so that French tax money would not be used for foreigners' care.

o Allow only French citizens to teach in French schools.

o Reinstitute morality classes; require student participation in patriotic events and holidays.

o Outlaw the wearing of yarmulkes and Muslim headscarves in schools.

o Create 200,000 new prison beds.

o Expand and give new rights to the police force.


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To: Blake#1
You should list the similarities between Le Pen and Duke. You can't and won't do it. You just want to save your own bigoted a-- by smearing someone else without evidence.
Bullclinton.

Read the article that started this post and substitute "white Christian" for "French". You are very close to the Duke platform. There's also the little gem about how Moslems and Jews may not wear distinctive attire. I bet he doesn't want to ban cross-related items though.

Le Pen even uses the same dodge as Duke: he claims he's "pro French", not anti-anyone, while his agenda clearly says differently.

-Eric

161 posted on 04/24/2002 9:47:10 AM PDT by E Rocc
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To: varon
Le Pen is not anything similar to an American conservative.

But I would vote for an American presidential candidate with a similar platform in a New York minute.

Then how would you vote if the Bill of Rights came up for a referendum?

-Eric

162 posted on 04/24/2002 9:51:34 AM PDT by E Rocc
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To: E Rocc
Are French Jews part of French culture? Le Pen doesn't have much good to say about them either

Yes, they are. I'm not aware of any anti-semetic remarks by Le Pen other than his terribly insensitive remark about the gas chambers being unimportant. Buchannan has made a similar remark and has not been put on par with David Duke, and Jesse Jackson has called NYC "hymmetown" [s.i.c] and is not considered a racist on par with Duke either.

I don't excuse his remark. The French Jews have a legit concern. But there are different levels of racism. David Duke was the KKK - pretty extreme. I don't know where Le Pen's head is at. Are you aware of any other anti-semitism by Le Pen?

163 posted on 04/24/2002 10:47:36 AM PDT by kidd
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To: kidd
I don't excuse his remark. The French Jews have a legit concern. But there are different levels of racism. David Duke was the KKK - pretty extreme. I don't know where Le Pen's head is at. Are you aware of any other anti-semitism by Le Pen?
How about his proposal to ban yarmulkas as well as Muslim headscarves in the schools? Mild anti-semitism to be sure, but unless he's also banning crosses on necklaces and the like, definitely a sign of a bias towards Jews.

When campaigning, Duke also restricted himself to such mild examples of bias.

-Eric

165 posted on 04/24/2002 1:19:42 PM PDT by E Rocc
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To: marshmallow
He loses me when he starts talking about "only French citizens may teach in public schools" and "give French citizens priority for all jobs and public housing."

The person who gets the job should be the one best qualified and best able to carry it out efficiently and competently.

Once one gets away from this concept, it's just socialism with make-up.

The French are afraid that immigrants looking for a free ride are sucking up all the government money. If they made it so that only the French could teach the kids (a boost to the French national identity) and that only the French could get government housing and jobs, then maybe the incoming hordes of muslims would find some other country to take over, like Italy.

166 posted on 04/24/2002 1:30:50 PM PDT by Crusher138
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To: E Rocc
Good point
168 posted on 04/24/2002 2:23:31 PM PDT by kidd
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To: slouper
o Reinstitute morality classes; require student participation in patriotic events and holidays.

Morality? Whose morality? The government's? The Moslem's?

o Outlaw the wearing of yarmulkes and Muslim headscarves in schools.

Maybe it is okay in France to tell people how they may or may not observe thier religion, but here we have a constitutional amendment that spedifically prohibits it.

o Expand and give new rights to the police force.

Do I even need to elaborate?

169 posted on 04/24/2002 3:50:06 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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To: E Rocc
Your head is full of "smoke". LePen reminds me of another patriot that was an American Hero. In the War of 1812, which we won, by the way, (does that bother yoy?)Capitan Stephen Decatur is quoted as saying "When in the course of human events may my country always be in the right, however, MY COUNTRY RIGHT OR WRONG" This is all that LePen is saying about his country. I take it you do not share this "feeling".
170 posted on 04/24/2002 5:23:46 PM PDT by Blake#1
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To: Blake#1
Your head is full of "smoke". LePen reminds me of another patriot that was an American Hero. In the War of 1812, which we won, by the way, (does that bother yoy?)Capitan Stephen Decatur is quoted as saying "When in the course of human events may my country always be in the right, however, MY COUNTRY RIGHT OR WRONG" This is all that LePen is saying about his country. I take it you do not share this "feeling".
That's by no means all he's saying. He's promoting a certain portion of the population (white Christians of French descent) and cloaking it in a form of neo-patriotism. If we wish to look for a match in American history, Decatur (who was speaking of foreign affairs) isn't it. The 19th century "Know Nothings" or the early 20th century Klan come much closer. Both claimed to be all about "Americanism", while hating many of the people who made up America. There's a more recent example in Germany as well.

Patriotism is a critical trait in a national leader, but it must be backed up with solid principles to be meaningful. As Samuel Johnson said: "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel".

-Eric

171 posted on 04/25/2002 5:04:24 AM PDT by E Rocc
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To: E Rocc
You are a pathetic citizen. You are a man without a country. Just like Philip Nolan in the Hale story. "Breaths there a man with soul so dead to himself has never said, this is my own my native land" (close) My answer is yes, E Rocc. May God have mercy on him, he and his kind will get none from me!
172 posted on 04/25/2002 5:49:32 PM PDT by Blake#1
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To: E Rocc
If you think Le Pen is radical, a Nazi, etc, not to fear. He'll lose on May 5, probably by a 70-30 landslide, or possibly by even more.

Fast forward to some time in the future. France will be even more "diverse" than it is now, and we will see exactly what kind of a wonderland it becomes. I can't wait. Le Pen will look like a moderate in retrospect, and the Muslims, now 25% of the population (and breeding like rats) will be plotting to convert Notre Dame into a mosque.

173 posted on 04/25/2002 8:42:41 PM PDT by Phillip Augustus
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To: Blake#1
You are a pathetic citizen. You are a man without a country. Just like Philip Nolan in the Hale story. "Breaths there a man with soul so dead to himself has never said, this is my own my native land" (close) My answer is yes, E Rocc. May God have mercy on him, he and his kind will get none from me!
Are you completely insane? Excuse me for preferring those who can rationally defend their patriotism to those who shout it from the rooftops but deep down hate everything their nation is supposed to stand for.

America is the greatest nation that has ever been because of what we are and what we stand for, not simply because we exist.

-Eric

174 posted on 04/26/2002 5:52:10 AM PDT by E Rocc
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To: Stingray51

This is one agenda that we could use here in the US.


175 posted on 07/25/2005 7:29:59 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: summer
"Develop programs to increase the birth rate..."

I don't think the US Navy will agree to so many port calls.

176 posted on 07/25/2005 7:33:50 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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