Erasing Our Borders

The New American ^ | May 6, 2002 | William F. Jasper

[philetus]

"America is being hijacked"


THEY have been planning this for a Looooonnnnng time.

Theres only one thing that will stop it.

[Fraulein]

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[Fraulein]

BTTT

[Risa]

>>If you aren't interested in how this will effect the kids lifes just go back to the patio for another glass of iced tea. The kids will never know that you could have made a difference. <<

I am with you, B4ranch. I have studied these issues exhaustively before forming an opinion, and I am convinced we face the total dismantling of our culture and the values that have sustained our nation for more than 300 years.

What is pathetic is that our elected leaders, and the people they appoint, as well as the globalisers, who stand to gain enormous economic advantage by integrating our once wealthy economy with the poorer ones--these people look upon the rest of us with utter disdain. We are the stupid, who can be easily duped, and whose children will live a miserable existence, if we allow them to open our borders to the third world. The wealthy will live guarded, just as the President's Ranch in Texas is guarded (at our expense) from the terror and danger to which he subjects the rest of us by refusing to protect our borders.

The answer is partly in educating others--everyone we know--I have found that people just are not aware. They believed the people they elected to run our government were protecting our nation's heritage and wealth.

I have a lot of documentation and support for my arguments, so people can easily look into the issues themselves. When they see what is taking place, they tell others...and so on. And the writing begins. If everyone takes action, perhaps we can stem the tide, if it's not too late.

risa

[Dick Bachert]

My favorite bumper sticker is "Looks like the Birchers were right!"

"Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women; if it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it." -- Judge Learned Hand, 1944

[Risa]

>>The people who rose up and demanded that we not open our borders ...Why did we do this? Because of the World Trade center attacks? Partially, ...<<

Sadly, in my experience, no one wanted to hear anything about these issues UNTIL the world trade attacks, when they began to sense that something was very wrong.

Others wouldn't listen until they began to see the dismantling of America's manufacturing base, or the transfer of information technology, engineering and architectural services to the poor, impoverished, massively overpopulated 'developing' world.

Others not until they were directly affected by the bitter fruits of the tidal wave of Mexicans/Muslims hell bent on transforming our country into a little Mogadishu, as one Somali, in the colony of 2000 in Lewiston, Maine put it, or an Atzlan.

The american people have been duped and many of them still are...

risa

[B4Ranch]

When I look at the trade deficit with China I wonder whose idea this was. If we were afraid or wanting to control China we would never have passed NAFTA. That is the one thing that pushed American companies into becoming international companies. GATT was the start and NAFTA will be our end of superior American manufacturing techniques.

Diversity is the intentional decay of the American culture. These are supported by BOTH the Republican and Democratic parties more strongly than our national sovereignty.

Neither of these issues snuck up on us. The idea of a New World Order has been promoted under different names and schemes since I was just a youngster. Look at the fact that the UN controls all our national parks. Was this an accident or a political slip? No, it was intentional by every administration since Nixon. Look at Agenda 21. This is the national standard our country is now working under. Every municipal code in the country must follow these procedures if they want to continue to receive Federal money? Is our Constitution written to keep Washington DC as our cash register for the States? No, but try and find one politician who will admit to this.

We are decaying from the inside out, a Republic to a Socialistic democracy. We can look at the small problems, such as the one in this article, determine possible corrections and continue on in our overall ignorance of what is actually happening to our country. Ask yourself why our borders are not sealed and what the intentions are from not doing so. I would love to read your responses, especially if you are a strong Republican.

[Risa]

>>a better friend of USA than the Chinese leadership is to this day.<<

I don't believe Mexico is a better friend to the U.S.A. than China. China is simply more honest about its hostility.

Mexico is a parasite, imo. Instead of building its own economy with courage and sweat like my family and our forbearer's did, they come here to take advantage of ours and then send half the proceeds back to Mexico to improve its economy while diminishing our own.

They have no respect for our sovereignty, or any rule of law, for that matter; they fill our country with narcotics, and criminals and thugs, take work away from Americans, negligently bear tons of babies, whether there is enough food to feed them or not, and will overpopulate our nation just as they have their own.

We will get nothing but the diminishment of our own culture and economy, and a miserable third-world existence for our children if we integrate our economy with theirs.

Afterall, with all of their natural resources, why haven't they built their own economy? The answer to that question speaks the truth about the Mexicans as a people. We do not share the same values, and the difference in values is the difference that has made this country a superpower and Mexico a cesspool.

risa

[american spirit]

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[Risa]

Oh, my...I think I would not have been so harsh in my response had I known you are a young person, MinorityRepublican.

I mean no condescension or offense to you by saying so, and I admire your intellectual astuteness, too, but I have always considered it the responsibility of adults to guide young people, in part by exhibiting reasoned behavior, and what I wrote in response to your excellent question was not a helpful response.

I do believe that Mexico is not our friend, and for the reasons I stated, but the scathing tone and language was inappropriate, and an indication to me that anger is getting the best of me, and that it's time for me to get off the computer for awhile!

best to you,
risa

[Risa]

>>A healthy Green Party in the U.S. would do wonders for our political climate <<

I have wondered about Congressman Tom Tancredo, who has very courageously taken a stand on the mass immigration issue, despite the wild accusations of racism being hurled at him from the immigration lawyers, charitable businesses, leftists...and so on..which surely he knew would ensue.

Frankly, I am still hoping that we can convince George Bush that the people don't want his new world order, didn't ask for it and will not let it happen without a brutal fight.

risa

[MinorityRepublican]

Oh, my...I think I would not have been so harsh in my response had I known you are a young person, MinorityRepublican.

No offense taken, sir. :-)

I do believe that Mexico is not our friend, and for the reasons I stated, but the scathing tone and language was inappropriate, and an indication to me that anger is getting the best of me, and that it's time for me to get off the computer for awhile!

Perhaps I am naive, but I believe that over time Mexico will be able to finally prosper with our help and influence. It does not really matter if Mexico is not our friend at the moment, after all only two hundred years ago we were enemies with Great Britain.

My point is that we must help Mexico to get on the right track. I recognize that not all Mexicans are assimilating in the United States, but the process is underway. I have hispanic friends who are truly Americans. Don't you have any friends from Mexico or any other Latin American country?

[MinorityRepublican]

They have no respect for our sovereignty, or any rule of law, for that matter; they fill our country with narcotics, and criminals and thugs, take work away from Americans, negligently bear tons of babies, whether there is enough food to feed them or not, and will overpopulate our nation just as they have their own.

Have you read the book, The Death of the West?

One of the fatal flaws of the Western Civilization is that we have ceased to respect life to the point that we are not able to replace ourselves.

Maybe there is something wrong with our culture?

The Meek shall inherit the Earth.

[Risa]

>>Have you read the book, The Death of the West?<<


>>One of the fatal flaws of the Western Civilization is that we have ceased to respect life to the point that we are not able to replace ourselves.<<

The book raises an intriguing thought. I would agree that the western world has lost respect for life, specifically the unborn child -- an evil, tragic flaw. Yet, I would not consider the decision to raise smaller families a tragic flaw. (I am not talking about using abortion as birth control, which is abhorrent behavior, to my mind, rather I am talking about responsible reproductive behavior).

The families I know today are smaller because parents have limited family size to the number of children they could reasonably afford. They understand that to raise healthy adults, one must provide children with certain environmental requirements --love and attention, health care, and so on, as well as food and clothing. By limiting family size, parents could invest more in individual children and improve the child's chances of becoming a healthy adult. To me this shows a great respect for the life of the child.


I would also submit that one of the flaws of the 'developing' world is the negligent behavior of bringing into the world one child after another, despite the knowledge that no resources exsist to feed them or to provide for them, i.e. bringing new life into a world of hunger, disease and misery. Such behavior, to me, shows a terrible disrespect for life.

Also, I think the developed world has behaved responsibly with respect to population growth. If everyone had huge families, population growth would soar out of control, just as it has in the developing world. (and I hate the idea of using the United States as a pressure-release valve for people who have no discipline, reproductive-wise.)

These are my thoughts, without having read the intriguing book. Thanks for the reference, though; I shall definitely read it.

risa

[Risa]

>>Perhaps I am naive, but I believe that over time Mexico will be able to finally prosper with our help and influence.<<

I don't think you are naive at all. I would hope that Mexico would prosper with help from our country. Yet, bringing all of Mexico's problems into America is going too far. Yet, this is exactly what Vincent Fox wishes to do.

>> I have hispanic friends who are truly Americans. Don't you have any friends from Mexico or any other Latin American country?<<

I have known many good American people of Mexican descent. I have a great appreciation for Mexican and Latin American culture, too -- their literature, art, customs, history and so on. But, this doesn't mean I want to live in that culture, nor does it mean I would tolerate flagrant disregard for our immigration law and our borders. In fact, I know many Americans of Mexican descent who are quite upset about America becoming more like the country they left, behind because of uncontrolled immigration.

regards,
risa

[AuntB]

The first thing you will hear is someone screeching, "isolationism doesn't work!!" WELL, neither does what ever this crappola is. Here's a reply to someone (who said if Reagan did it once, it must be alright) from a day or so ago I wrote about the "guest worker/amnesty" program

Our wonderful President Reagan wasn't right every time, none of us are and has not had to see for the past, what 10 years, what has happened to his California, and many other states. I would guess you don't live in a border state or a state like Oregon, where I recently "migrated" from. I became too ill to even live in my own home and had to sell it to live on. You might say I was "lucky". No, I worked and paid taxes for 30 years on that home to own it.

I watched my neighborhood, in a matter of 6 months turn into a little Tijuana...have you ever been to Tijuana? First the across the street neighbor died and her relatives sold a beautiful 2 acre lot with a small mobile to a man who imports "guest workers". There were 12 of them, and their goats, fighting chickens, "music" all night, blocking the street. They lived in the carport, the sheds, they built new sheds...LOTS of them. Then he bought another one down the street. Don't get me wrong here, they were decent people in many ways. The few who spoke English. Mostly teenage kids. The adults wouldn't speak English. I gave them a bunch of stuff and hired some of them when I moved. They didn't like the country. They liked the cities. The country was boring. Nothin' to do.

I keep asking that question and I asked one of them? , "If you wanted to leave your home so badly, why are you turning this into the same thing?" He shrugged his shoulders and said, " I don't want to be here". I believe most "immigrants" today, don't want to be here. A number of things compel them to come.

But I can tell you this, the immigrants of today are not the immigrants of before. They came and made this country better. Most of them knew why they were here. And they left us all wealthier and better for it. Then we became politically correct. I'm glad Ronald Reagan hasn't had to see it.

I sold my property for $50,000.00 less than I would have 6 months before. A $300,000.00 new home on the street just got $195,000.00. Please don't tell me about my "zoning police". I was called a bigot when I inquired.

I hope I'm a good "immigrant" to my new home state. It's rather strange to be somewhere new after 56 years. I really don't want to be here. I'll try to leave it like it is or make it better and not convince the "current indigenous tribe" that they should change all their rules to suit me or be forced to put up with ill mannered, rude behaviour. And I'll stand by my new neigbors when they need me. Because that's what neighbors are supposed to do. That goes for Mexico, too. Mexicans want to be in Mexico. We should do everything we can to force that corrupt government to be a good neighbor and start taking care of it's own.

Remember NAFTA? Remember the BIG promise of NAFTA? It was going to put a stop to all this illegal immigration, because the people of Mexico would have "prosperity" and want to stay in their own homeland.

I don't pretend to be as smart as some of our politicians or know all the answers to the problem with the invasion of migrants from Mexico. But everything I've heard, including Bush's is no better than what NAFTA accomplished. and from where my vantage point is, it can be called no less than invasion. You will not get a business job unless you speak Spanish. I started hearing that 10 years ago. It's not just the service labor sector that's losing jobs, it's the secretaries, any customer service. I'll take the service job. What are the odds of my pathetic body being hired over a strong, young "guest worker". That proposal might work, if we were talking say, 5% of the population. You have to realize in places, even like So. Oregon, we're talking 10 to 20% of the population and growing every day. It's the worst unemployment in the nation. We have an incredible Mexican Mafia situation. And great welfare. Assimilation? Not happenin'.

[sauropod]

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[cyborg]

read later? (still recovering from CPAC?)

[sauropod]

And work. Lots going on at work.

[B4Ranch]

04/09/2003 6:39:00 AM PDT by Risa

Goodness Bille, what prompted you to pull this 'racist' thread out of the hole?

I thought it died last April.

Thanks, Babe