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Atkins Had a heart attack
local radio ^ | April 25, 2001 | Magnus Mat

Posted on 04/25/2002 5:50:29 AM PDT by MagnusMat

Just heard that Atkins had aheart attack this morning


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KEYWORDS: atkins; diet
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1 posted on 04/25/2002 5:50:29 AM PDT by MagnusMat
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To: MagnusMat
Atkins who?
2 posted on 04/25/2002 5:50:59 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: MagnusMat
Is that Atkins from the Atkins diet?
3 posted on 04/25/2002 5:51:37 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta
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To: MagnusMat
Oh boy. Guess the Atkins-Ornish issue is settled.
4 posted on 04/25/2002 5:51:58 AM PDT by Nataku X
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Sorry, Dr. Atkins, Protein diet, eat all the bacon you want person
5 posted on 04/25/2002 5:52:00 AM PDT by MagnusMat
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To: MagnusMat
Yes, It is breaking here in Buffalo, sorry I can't find a link. But this is no joke. Please help me find a link
7 posted on 04/25/2002 5:53:27 AM PDT by MagnusMat
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To: MagnusMat
Before all the Wing Nuts start picking on the guy, It is fair to point out he is well over 70 years old.

And, for an awful lot of people, It works. Before the crass mass market commercialization of his program, over 25,000 morbidly obese people were helped at his clinic.

Further, if you are a Gym Rat, it's the one diet you can go on, and Lose Fat, Gain Muscle, and increase stregnth, simultaneously.

8 posted on 04/25/2002 5:54:24 AM PDT by hobbes1
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To: MagnusMat
The funny thing is this happened while he was eating his breakfast.
9 posted on 04/25/2002 5:55:30 AM PDT by MagnusMat
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To: MagnusMat
It can happen to anyone, I thought it was Chet, but then I think he has already gone.
10 posted on 04/25/2002 5:56:18 AM PDT by wita
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To: MagnusMat

Chet Atkins?
I thought he was already dead.

11 posted on 04/25/2002 5:56:46 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: wita
GMTA!
12 posted on 04/25/2002 5:57:12 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: hobbes1
I agree, it would be wrong to draw any conclusions until we get some more information.
13 posted on 04/25/2002 5:57:24 AM PDT by MagnusMat
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To: hobbes1
Everyone I knew on the Atkins diet had their bad cholesterol and triglycerides skyrocket while on it. And none of them managed to stay on it for very long. Jeez, why not eat a healthy diet and exercise?
14 posted on 04/25/2002 5:57:28 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: MagnusMat
Oh dear, has he met up with Jim Fixx?
15 posted on 04/25/2002 5:57:47 AM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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To: hobbes1
Your right about the diet working, I have used it & it does work. But they are right about all that Cholesterol & fat being detrimental to your health, it can't be good for you for a continuous amount of time. I also had a hard time keeping my strength up during the diets use when I worked out, but a little Creatine seemed to help the strength issue.
16 posted on 04/25/2002 5:58:13 AM PDT by HELLRAISER II
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To: mewzilla
Could someone do a nexuslexus search so that we can have the original story. In buffalo on the radio stations they are breaking with this story. This is tragic
17 posted on 04/25/2002 6:00:00 AM PDT by MagnusMat
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To: MagnusMat
Well, as bad as a heart attack certainly is, people can and do survive them. Believe me, we know :) Anyone heard if Atkins survived his, and if so, what his condition is?
18 posted on 04/25/2002 6:03:54 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: MagnusMat
Checking the wires: Reuters, AP. Nothing yet.
19 posted on 04/25/2002 6:03:54 AM PDT by Carolina
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To: mewzilla
"Everyone I knew on the Atkins diet had their bad cholesterol and triglycerides skyrocket while on it"

My brother had his bad cholesterol and triglycerides go down. He also had his borderline high Liver Enzymes go down. His doctor said to keep doing what he is doing.

You are correct, though, that it's difficult to stay on.

I tried it myself and lost about 20 pounds. I never felt better -I had abundant energy. The difficult thing is it is a lifestyle change -and I don't want to change my eating habbits. It's not the fault of the 'atkins' diet. It's my fault.

Jean

20 posted on 04/25/2002 6:04:16 AM PDT by Jean Chauvin
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To: MagnusMat
Heart attack does not necessarily mean dead. How is he?
21 posted on 04/25/2002 6:04:29 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: MagnusMat
He has given a press release staing that it wasn't becasue of his diet
22 posted on 04/25/2002 6:05:25 AM PDT by MagnusMat
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To: Lazamataz
He is alive, he is not dead; however, it was close.
23 posted on 04/25/2002 6:06:47 AM PDT by MagnusMat
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To: Thinkin' Gal
Oh dear, has he met up with Jim Fixx?

You are SO bad!

24 posted on 04/25/2002 6:07:11 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: hobbes1
I just lost 15 pounds in the last 4 weeks, and it is staying off, too!
25 posted on 04/25/2002 6:07:25 AM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: Jean Chauvin
Was he getting most of his protein from vegetable sources? Of course, all of the people I knew who were on it never stuck to proper portion sizes of anything, which was part of the problem in the first place. I also heard that the diet can put a real strain on the kidneys which are trying to excrete all that excess protein (someone please correct me if I got that wrong).
26 posted on 04/25/2002 6:07:50 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: hobbes1
Well I hope he has a recovery but lets face it, his fad diet is very unhealthy and I've been saying that for years. I am an overweight person who tried it and I never felt so crappy in my life as when I was on that diet and to boot, it was a serious crimp on my lifestyle. I mean, you walk into a restaurant and you have to make all these special requests like ordering a cheeseburger without the bun and crap like that. In fact, in the long term, the diet might have done me good only because I got so sick of cheeseburgers and bacon and other red meats that I stopped eating them for a while.

A couple of years ago, I simply started eating better and basically stick to a Mediterannean-style diet which is heavy on fish, veggies, rice, pasta, olive oil (instead of butter), garlic, breads, beer and wine. Basically all the stuff that Atkins tells you not to eat. Since then, I feel great and my weight has been under control ever since. As well, my blood cholesterol dropped from 240 to 186 and all my blood sugars are normal and my blood pressure and stress is greatly reduced. I am no longer a heart attack risk as I was when I was on the Atkins diet.

I still have a steak or cheeseburger every now and then. Even eggs and bacon. The point is, any diet that restricts you to a single food group (like the Atkins diet) is a fad diet and should be avoided.

27 posted on 04/25/2002 6:08:08 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: RaceBannon
I told someone I lost 30 pounds. He said, "Turn around, you'll find it."
28 posted on 04/25/2002 6:08:33 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: MagnusMat
Well, here's to his speedy recovery. Best wishes, doc.
29 posted on 04/25/2002 6:09:03 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: mewzilla
While i dont advocate his diet, he is on to something and he has support by many doctors
30 posted on 04/25/2002 6:12:46 AM PDT by MagnusMat
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To: mewzilla
Everyone I knew on the Atkins diet had their bad cholesterol and triglycerides skyrocket while on it. And none of them managed to stay on it for very long. Jeez, why not eat a healthy diet and exercise?

I've lost 120 lbs and kept it off for over a year. I'm a diabetic with perfectly normal blood sugar now and NO medication. I had high blood pressure that was barely controlled by medication and now have normal BP and cholestrol of 192. My triglycerides were astronomically high...well over 1600 and 6 months ago after my last lipid panel they came in at 212. Still high but MUCH better. I also work out every day. But telling a morbidly obese diabetic with extreme hyper tension to just 'eat better and exercise' is nonsense. If you need to lose 10-15 lbs that approach makes sense. If you need to drop 100 lbs it's virtually impossible to lose weight that way.

The Atkins diet works....refined sugar and flours do not belong in our diet.

31 posted on 04/25/2002 6:14:12 AM PDT by pgkdan
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To: mewzilla
The diet he/we did, was to eat no carbs until dinner -which was called the 'reward meal' where anything went -within reason. The reward meal was where we had our breads and pasta's and such.

other meals would be meats (cheesburgers with out toppings or buns...) or other no carb foods.

It's an expensive diet with all the meat you must buy.

I actually enjoyed it, as I said, I felt fabulous. (I personally didn't have a check up so I cannot answer about my own levels)

I will also admit that I lost more pounds 10 years ago by jogging. I didn't change anything in my eating habbits. I have an NFL lineman size and to get up to 3 miles x 3 times per week is quite a feat. I dropped in the neighborhood of 30 pounds. I felt fabulous during this time as well (that joggers 'high' is fabulous). But again, it was a lifestyle change that I didn't want to keep up with. Lord willing, I will start Jogging seriously again next week as it finally seems to have warmed up for good.

Jean

32 posted on 04/25/2002 6:16:48 AM PDT by Jean Chauvin
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To: MagnusMat
People forget he is a doctor
33 posted on 04/25/2002 6:18:32 AM PDT by MagnusMat
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To: MagnusMat
People, mostly men, have heart attacks...fat, thin, active, inactive, diet conscious, junk food lovers......it's a major health problem in our society.
34 posted on 04/25/2002 6:19:02 AM PDT by OldFriend
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To: Constitution Day
Great profile, dare I ask for a translation, GMTA is a new one for me.
35 posted on 04/25/2002 6:19:10 AM PDT by wita
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To: pgkdan
Actually the few morbidly obese people I've know who've managed to lost a lot of weight, did lose it the old-fasioned way, with a complete change of lifestyle, eating a healthy, balanced diet and exercising. And, interestingly enough, they're the only ones who've mnaged to keep off what they've lost.

As for whether or not the Atkins diet works, I don't know anyone who's been on it for twenty years. And as far as I know, no long term studies of it have been done. If those take place and the results stand up with no ill effects, then I'll believe it.

In any case, we've had flour and sugar (of smoe sort) in our diets for a long time. Rampant obesity is a new phenomenon that has more to do with our behavior than just what we eat.

36 posted on 04/25/2002 6:19:54 AM PDT by mewzilla
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My favorite "health guru heart attack" was that jogger guy. Not sure of his name. But he was the guy that was promoting jogging as the cure all to weight and health problems. He was all the rage at the time.

Dropped dead of a heart attack in his 30's or early 40's.

37 posted on 04/25/2002 6:22:38 AM PDT by Phantom Lord
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To: SamAdams76
If you want to lose weight, watch what fat people eat and avoid those foods. Fat people tend to eat a lot of bread, potatoes, beer, snack foods and restaurant meals. Go and do not these things.
38 posted on 04/25/2002 6:23:07 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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I lost 80 lbs. on the Atkins diet, and have kept it off. The only variation I used was a large salad for lunch, then a salad and chicken or steak for dinner. I eschewed all the fat he allowed, as I knew I could not stay on it forever. I quit craving all the junk I once lived on, but I have a "cheat day" once a week.
39 posted on 04/25/2002 6:24:11 AM PDT by conserve-it
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Jogging while overweight is Hell on your joints. I learned that the hard way. Now I use a bike
40 posted on 04/25/2002 6:24:18 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: wita
Great profile,...

Thanks! I need to find a new image server, though.

.

... dare I ask for a translation, GMTA is a new one for me.

We both thought of Chet Atkins, so Great Minds Think Alike!

FRegards,
CD

41 posted on 04/25/2002 6:24:57 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: RaceBannon
I just lost 15 pounds in the last 4 weeks, and it is staying off, too!

That's a little premature to say. Report back in 6 months.

42 posted on 04/25/2002 6:25:40 AM PDT by Huck
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To: AppyPappy
According to dieticians I've spoken to, its how much you eat, not just what you eat. Most things are fine in moderation, but overweight people routinely eat way more than they need. Look at the changes in dinner plate sizes over the last forty years. And the portion sizes served in restaurants. They're much larger, too. And with folks exercising less....
43 posted on 04/25/2002 6:26:00 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Phantom Lord
My favorite "health guru heart attack" was that jogger guy. Not sure of his name.

see #15

44 posted on 04/25/2002 6:28:55 AM PDT by palmer
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To: conserve-it
Yes, I know people eho have had good luck with it. Nevertheless, this will make people skeptical
45 posted on 04/25/2002 6:31:48 AM PDT by MagnusMat
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To: MagnusMat
Did a terrorist cause it?
46 posted on 04/25/2002 6:32:08 AM PDT by texlok
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To: AppyPappy
I've been avoiding the heavily processed supermarket foods like breakfast cereals, snack items (especially those supermarket pastries, cookies, chips, etc.) and frozen "TV dinner" type foods which are basically more chemical than food.

For breakfast/lunch, I usually have a bowl of oats and a tin of King Oscar sardines packed in olive oil with garlic. So I get some kind of fish and olive oil every day which I think is important. My wife and I basically cook every night from raw ingredients. And when I snack, it is usually always nuts like peanuts or pistachios. Those are high in fat but the "good" kind of fat (mono or poly unsaturated). The salt shakers are gone from the house and wherever butter would be used, pure extra virgin olive oil is used instead. Makes a big difference, in my opinion. I'm still overweight but at least I'm healthy and I feel good.

I still think the obesity problem is tied to lack of exercise. For the entire history of human civilization - up until modern times - the average human did manual labor all day long. Even those with sedentary jobs had to walk everywhere and do lots of labor-intensive chores at home.

Looking at pictures of medieval times, the only fat people you saw were those in the royal families who were waited on hand and foot by servants all day. Well these days, we all live like royalty. The average Joe today has luxuries that kings and queens could only dream about just 100 years ago. Until humans evolve with a lower metabolism (to compensate for the lack of physical activity), I'm afraid obesity will continue to be a huge social problem.

47 posted on 04/25/2002 6:32:45 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: mewzilla
You can eat as much as you want....depending on what you eat. You can eat as much brocolli, cauliflower and other type veggies as you want.

I watched a rotund woman eat at a baseball game over the weekend. It was nachos in fake cheese sauce, ice cream, a hot dog, a grilled soft pretzel and a bigass Coke. And she'll probably say "I really don't eat that much".

What do sumo wrestlers eat? Lots of noodles. What do fat rednecks around here eat? Lots of beer, bread and potatoes. What do fat Italians eat? Lots of pasta.

48 posted on 04/25/2002 6:33:28 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: hobbes1
if you are a Gym Rat, it's the one diet you can go on, and Lose Fat, Gain Muscle, and increase stregnth, simultaneously.

I would be interested to know if this is true. I am a gym rat, a competitive body builder. In the off season I weigh 190 pounds and for contests I get under 176 pounds.

But even when I am cutting weight, I do not eliminate carbs entirely. I simply reduce them. Muscles need carbs, or they lose size. During this cutting phase I will lose 1-2 pounds per week over 12-16 weeks. But my carb intake at its lowest point during this period does not go below 125-175 grams per day. Simple carbs are shunned, breads, rice, pastsa, etc., as well as fruits. I rely on complex carbs like oatmeal or red skin potatoes and veggies, mainly broccli and cauliflower.

I have had to diet too hard at the last minute to shed fat, where my carb intake has been as low as 40-50 grams per day for a week. But I lost a tremendous amount of muscle in the process.

49 posted on 04/25/2002 6:34:14 AM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: mewzilla
the diet can put a real strain on the kidneys

True, a high-protein diet does indeed strain the kidneys. Pancreatic enzymes taken after eating, however, break the protein down into smaller components that are easier on the kidney.

With pancreatic enzymes, renal patients can benefit from eating enough protein for good nutrition, yet preserve their remaining kidney function.

I know a person with chronic kidney failure who's taking the enzymes, eating adequate protein; the only person in the program whose blood tests are not showing sustained decline in kidney function. (And no, I don't work in the enzyme distribution chain.)

50 posted on 04/25/2002 6:35:41 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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