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Thanks to protesters, children saw horrifying images
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | April 27, 2002 | CAROL BENDER- letter to editor

Posted on 04/27/2002 7:00:00 PM PDT by syriacus

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:34:38 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Recovering_Democrat
I agree. It's simply unbelievable that an infant brought to bear a day away fom birth can be legally slaughtered. WE are the barbarians.
21 posted on 04/27/2002 7:27:30 PM PDT by PayrollOffice
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To: PayrollOffice
Dreadful indeed. It surprises me that they even record such data

You'd think they'd be afraid someone (like Larry Flynt,say) might get hold of the data and expose someone's medical history.

I'm bewildered,too, that the Nazis kept so many records of their activities in the death camps.

Maybe both groups are (were) so cold-hearted or blood-thirsty that they don't (didn't) realize they should be ashamed of murdering humans.

22 posted on 04/27/2002 7:29:00 PM PDT by syriacus
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To: Cicero
Everything you said is valid but, I am sorry to say, is unrelated to my post.

I am merely stating a maxim that does not seem to cerate a dissonance in anyone I know: not every teaching method is appropriate. The question therefore is, how does it apply in the present case?

I would submit to you that, even if the public was not educated about murder, this method would still be inappropriate precisely because one cannot control the "class composition."

You educate your children about sex or, more precisely, morality related to these relations. This may include a talk or two with your teenage son or daughter. You do not make a family discussion out of it and, most certainly, do not involve the five-year old sibling: to the contrary, you make an effort to preclude that small child from hearing the "adult" conversation. As you well know, information that cannot be processed fully may cause more damage than its intended benefit.

Most teachers know this, although they do not think of the matter often, since most of what they teach is not harmful to children. Most certainly, people who advocate morality should behave in a moral --- presently, responsibe --- manner and not justify the means by the ends they seek.

Thus, the demosrtators may have been on high moral ground in terms of the reason for and the content of their message, but the delivery was irresponsiblem, harmful to the unintended audience and, therefore, wrong.

23 posted on 04/27/2002 7:29:54 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: syriacus
Guess that's one kid who will grow up to view abortion as murder. No need to say anything, just state what it is. Let's look at it a little differently - the pro "choice" (it's OK to murder) brought about the need for the demonstration. The only tolerable abortion would have been... then again, who can select whom to kill and not kill? Certainly a mother wouldn't make the "choice", just a killer.
24 posted on 04/27/2002 7:30:08 PM PDT by Henchman
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To: PayrollOffice
WE THEY are the barbarians.

Vote pro-life.

25 posted on 04/27/2002 7:31:12 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: Procyon
You get my drift. No, I do not.

Like the demonstrators, you concentrate on the reason for the demonstration, whereas I addressed the method.

Even in war, we attempt to minimize collateral damage. Here such damage is inflicted on "born" children. Since this is avoidable, I find no justification for it. A million murders that you protest do not justify your destruction of the psyche of a five-year-old that happens to be passing by.

Please see the previous post.

26 posted on 04/27/2002 7:33:21 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: syriacus
Maybe both groups are (were) so cold-hearted or blood-thirsty that they don't (didn't)
realize they should be ashamed of murdering humans
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I think the textbook rhetorical Nazi response would have been:
"What humans?".

(as in the Nazi doctrine that Jews, gypsies, gays, bothersome Catholic and Protestant
clerics were "sub-human")
27 posted on 04/27/2002 7:33:41 PM PDT by VOA
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To: syriacus
Kids should be brought up with values, and there's no magic "one-liner" you can tell the kid. Legalized abortion is a sad blight on our culture, and the ripple effects into other parts of life are legion.
28 posted on 04/27/2002 7:39:40 PM PDT by lds23
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To: syriacus
I've never quite been able to figure this out. To show a picture of what someone did is horrific. The act committed by someone which ended the existence of an unborn child is not so bad.

So, to show a picture of a murder victim is horrific, but the murder itself was not so bad.

To show a picture of someone who was tortured is horrific, but the act of torture was not so bad.

To show a picture of a child beaten by a parent is horrific, but the act of beating the child was not so bad.

To show a picture of victims of Nazi death camps was horrific, but the act of gassing the innocent victims was not so bad.

Hey, I think I've got the picture now. It is a parallel universe in which the pro-aborts live.

29 posted on 04/27/2002 7:42:57 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: syriacus
How do you respond to a 3-year-old about such violent photos? She doesn't understand;

I don't understand either how to explain why people murder innocent life in the womb......and I'm 43-years old

...how do I tell her that those are unborn babies when she is very excited about her aunt who is pregnant with twins?

How about the truth: we murder only the babies we don't want. We want your Aunt's babies.

I'm 100% sure your 3 year old will think you are a hypocrite as much as I do

30 posted on 04/27/2002 7:43:13 PM PDT by JZoback
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To: syriacus
I cannot control what my child sees while riding in the car, as he is buckled in the back seat and I cannot reach back to cover his eyes. I thank God that he was not with me the other day when I passed by this protest.

The ones that I've participated in have many warning signs before the "yucky" signs. Drivers are warned about what they will see. They have plenty of time to turn around if they don't want their children to see them.

31 posted on 04/27/2002 7:44:23 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: syriacus
Whether you are pro-choice or pro-life does not matter; what matters is that we protect our children.

Translation: Whether you are in favor of murdering children or against murdering children, we can all agree to protect our children.

32 posted on 04/27/2002 7:44:37 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: tet68
If the child didn't recognize the pictures of babies, don't tell her yet, she's too young to understand. Tell her you will tell her when she is older. This is what you would do if she asked about sex, right? When she's old enough to recognize the babies, or if she asks you about abortion, be truthful. Kids are excellent truth detectors.

I was about 14 when a woman libber teacher described the joys of abortion to my high school class. She didn't mention that the procedure kills the baby, only that the "fetus was removed". I raised my hand, and asked how they do this without killing the baby. She danced around the issue, but finally admitted that it did kill the baby. I was horrified, and to this day the thought of abortion still sickens me. I went home and discussed it with my mom. She put me in touch with a right to life organization. I had them come and speak to the class.

When my daughter was about 12 she asked what the word "abortion" meant. I truthfully told her. She too was horrified. I told her that when I learned that I was pregnant with her, my HMO immediately offered to schedule an abortion, and that she was blessed to have been born to a mother who values life. My daughter appreciated hearing the truth, and I believe that this kind of information should come from a parent, not a liberal extremest teacher.

33 posted on 04/27/2002 7:46:34 PM PDT by passionfruit
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To: syriacus
How do you respond to a 3-year-old about such violent photos? She doesn't understand; how do I tell her that those are unborn babies when she is very excited about her aunt who is pregnant with twins?

You come straight out and tell them what it is and that its wrong to kill unborn children thats what i did and my child now 10 years old knows ABORTION IS MURDER and i started talking to her about such things around the age of 4 so she knows and understands its murder

34 posted on 04/27/2002 7:47:16 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: syriacus
I don't think a young child would have any idea what those red things on the posters were.
I think what we're hearing is the mothers facing their own sins ,and they don't like what they see. It's them.
It's what they approve of. It's what they've supported and spoken out to defend. It's the mirror images of their own lost souls.
35 posted on 04/27/2002 7:47:22 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: syriacus
I completely respect the American choice to protest against something you oppose and to stand up for something you believe in, but when it is forced upon children, I absolutely lose all respect.

Do you lose any respect when all types of socialist swill is forced down public school children throats

I didn't think so.

36 posted on 04/27/2002 7:47:31 PM PDT by JZoback
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To: syriacus
What to tell the children about abortion? Tell them the TRUTH! Abortion-the right to choose...genocidal, nazi-pioneered murder of helpless unborn babies for the convenience of self-loving women and for the profit of money-loving monsters. The pictures of aborted babies force admission of the undeniable horrors of abortion. Those who perpetrate it are monsters that the so called death camp "doctor" Joseph Mengale would be proud of! Hitler, Stalin, Mao - all mass murderers. Today, we in Amerika can add our own nation to that list - with the red badge of cruelty of 35 to 40 million murdered aborted babies to date. When will the murdering of unborn babies stop? GOD have mercy on our nation!
37 posted on 04/27/2002 7:47:59 PM PDT by RWBaral
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To: PayrollOffice
You tell them the truth. Children are resilient. It makes me gag when I hear these people say "who's going to be there at the school to explain this to them". They can ask you when they get home.

Children see all kinds of things that they don't even tell you about. Some parents are too overprotective now days. How do they think all the previous generations of children survived and grew up without all the counselors?

38 posted on 04/27/2002 7:48:11 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: syriacus
Embarrassing the heck out of the fence straddlers.
39 posted on 04/27/2002 7:51:01 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: syriacus
Please read post 33. I intended to reply to you.
40 posted on 04/27/2002 7:52:27 PM PDT by passionfruit
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